Why I call the left commiecrats

[del]

you're the dude that calls obama, maobama, right?

yeah, everyone hangs on your every word.

Nope, if your going to credit me with something at least get it right. It's Maobama, fuck head.

otay, cletus

maobama it is.

 

[Lakhota]

NaziCons are funny...

 

[OKTexas]

All of you fine Alinski disciples seem to be too stupid to put more than one sentence together. If you think I'm wrong, prove it commie slime.

 

[del]

When others call the far right crazy nutters, this is the type of stuff they're talking about.

Really, how about you formulate a response and point out my errors, or do you have trouble typing more than one line at a time?

no, he's got really important things to do, like alphabetizing his sock drawer

we'll get back to you, jethro

 

[OKTexas]

NaziCons are funny...

Yep, beats the shit of being a commie tool.

 

[del]

All of you fine Alinski disciples seem to be too stupid to put more than one sentence together. If you think I'm wrong, prove it commie slime.

maobama

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The Naked Communist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Toro]

Communism is a socioeconomic system which centralizes ownership of property at the state, subjugates the pricing system to government dictat, and directs all allocation of capital.

References to gay rights, higher education, and children's sports is not evidence of a system that effectively bans all property rights. Get back to us when the Democrat party starts talking about banning the stock market.

You should learn what communism is first. The rest of the world and most Americans laugh at the American right when it makes such silly arguments.

 

[occupied]

Communism is a socioeconomic system which centralizes ownership of property at the state, subjugates the pricing system to government dictat, and directs all allocation of capital.

References to gay rights, higher education, and children's sports is not evidence of a system that effectively bans all property rights. Get back to us when the Democrat party starts talking about banning the stock market.

You should learn what communism is first. The rest of the world and most Americans laugh at the American right when it makes such silly arguments.

OkraSexass knows what communism is by now, he just thinks it's clever to to accuse people of it. I had a thing for a while where I countered all commie accusations with the harshest Nazi accusation I could come up with, maybe I should bring that back.

 

[OKTexas]

Communism is a socioeconomic system which centralizes ownership of property at the state, subjugates the pricing system to government dictat, and directs all allocation of capital.

References to gay rights, higher education, and children's sports is not evidence of a system that effectively bans all property rights. Get back to us when the Democrat party starts talking about banning the stock market.

You should learn what communism is first. The rest of the world and most Americans laugh at the American right when it makes such silly arguments.

OkraSexass knows what communism is by now, he just thinks it's clever to to accuse people of it. I had a thing for a while where I countered all commie accusations with the harshest Nazi accusation I could come up with, maybe I should bring that back.

Why would you use Nazi to counter communist, they are brothers, Nazis were just National Socialist. Both just wanted control and both killed millions of people. Just like your dear leaders buddy Bill Ayers, he proposed killing 10% of the US to establish control. But hey, he's just a guy in the neighborhood, right? Your dear leader didn't share that he gave speeches with Ayres, and shared an office with him or they were on boards together, did he. Enjoy being a tool, sounds like you were indoctrinated well.

 

[Londoner]

The Freeman article reiterates the old argument that liberal values erode the nuclear family, which is the primary vehicle for creating moral adults - but it doesn't offer any biological, sociological or anthropological basis for this claim. I've read some interesting arguments about why the family has eroded and why divorce rates are so high, but this paper doesn't provide any interesting data or arguments for its conclusions. Nor does it say why a traditional family is better than an untraditional family. It seems to presuppose it's conclusions rather than supporting them with statistics or carefully weighed premises. This is a "think tank" piece, so it is not cleansed by the rigorous standards of peer reviewed work. I tend to think that the family was destroyed by the post New Deal loss of high wages/benefits for Labor. This forced the mother into the workforce and left the kids to be raised by MTV. I first head this argument (ironically) from Conservative commentator Christopher Lasch. Point is, I think there might be some interesting arguments on both sides.

But yes, of course this think tank piece recites the same old stuff about liberal values being too permissive, focusing too much on self-esteem over discipline, which leads children to think they won't be punished. It advocates strict uniform regulations, tighter security. Ends with an argument for private schools because the state cannot bear the administrative burden. I don't recall reading the old saw about the slippery slope between atheism and barbarism, but this is a very common argument against liberalism. Once you remove God, all is permitted. etc. etc.

If you're on the Right, you are likely to be persuaded by the OPs links. If your on the fence and need better arguments, look elsewhere.

I'd recommend Allan Bloom's "Closing of the American Mind". He reiterates all these arguments but with a lot more substance.

FYI: appreciate that the OP is trying to offer ideas rather than calling all Liberals evil scum.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Why I call the left commiecrats

Because you’re ignorant and immature.

 

[OKTexas]

Communism is a socioeconomic system which centralizes ownership of property at the state, subjugates the pricing system to government dictat, and directs all allocation of capital.

References to gay rights, higher education, and children's sports is not evidence of a system that effectively bans all property rights. Get back to us when the Democrat party starts talking about banning the stock market.

You should learn what communism is first. The rest of the world and most Americans laugh at the American right when it makes such silly arguments.

Tell me, how would you go about installing such a system in a country like ours, without creating social and economic chaos? That's the plan, destroy the social and economic fabric of the country and it's easily conquered. Politician like your dear leader create problems then the claim they can fix them, of course the fixes always require sacrificing liberty, security or property and some require all of them. BTW if you think the fed printing 43 billion a month and buying bad mortgage bonds won't end up destroying the economy you might want to think again. As strong central bank is a pillar of communism.

 

[occupied]

Communism is a socioeconomic system which centralizes ownership of property at the state, subjugates the pricing system to government dictat, and directs all allocation of capital.

References to gay rights, higher education, and children's sports is not evidence of a system that effectively bans all property rights. Get back to us when the Democrat party starts talking about banning the stock market.

You should learn what communism is first. The rest of the world and most Americans laugh at the American right when it makes such silly arguments.

OkraSexass knows what communism is by now, he just thinks it's clever to to accuse people of it. I had a thing for a while where I countered all commie accusations with the harshest Nazi accusation I could come up with, maybe I should bring that back.

Why would you use Nazi to counter communist, they are brothers, Nazis were just National Socialist. Both just wanted control and both killed millions of people. Just like your dear leaders buddy Bill Ayers, he proposed killing 10% of the US to establish control. But hey, he's just a guy in the neighborhood, right? Your dear leader didn't share that he gave speeches with Ayres, and shared an office with him or they were on boards together, did he. Enjoy being a tool, sounds like you were indoctrinated well.

Go on over to stormfront and ask the self-described nazis if they are also communists. Do you think the Nazis were honest? Hitler said and did a lot of things that were lies, especially the labels his propagandists attached to things, kind of like the democratic republic of Korea is not actually a democracy or a republic, but you know all that as you have no doubt heard this counterargument every time you pull out that bunch of bullshit. Do you really think Hitler was honest in his politics?

 

[OKTexas]

The Freeman article reiterates the old argument that liberal values erode the nuclear family, which is the primary vehicle for creating moral adults - but it doesn't offer any biological, sociological or anthropological basis for this claim. I've read some interesting arguments about why the family has eroded and why divorce rates are so high, but this paper doesn't provide any interesting data or arguments for its conclusions. Nor does it say why a traditional family is better than an untraditional family. It seems to presuppose it's conclusions rather than supporting them with statistics or carefully weighed premises. This is a "think tank" piece, so it is not cleansed by the rigorous standards of peer reviewed work. I tend to think that the family was destroyed by the post New Deal loss of high wages/benefits for Labor. This forced the mother into the workforce and left the kids to be raised by MTV. I first head this argument (ironically) from Conservative commentator Christopher Lasch. Point is, I think there might be some interesting arguments on both sides.

But yes, of course this think tank piece recites the same old stuff about liberal values being too permissive, focusing too much on self-esteem over discipline, which leads children to think they won't be punished. It advocates strict uniform regulations, tighter security. Ends with an argument for private schools because the state cannot bear the administrative burden. I don't recall reading the old saw about the slippery slope between atheism and barbarism, but this is a very common argument against liberalism. Once you remove God, all is permitted. etc. etc.

If you're on the Right, you are likely to be persuaded by the OPs links. If your on the fence and need better arguments, look elsewhere.

I'd recommend Allan Bloom's "Closing of the American Mind". He reiterates all these arguments but with a lot more substance.

FYI: appreciate that the OP is trying to offer ideas rather than calling all Liberals evil scum.

Thanks for the info, I haven't heard of Bloom's book, I just read a summary and it sounds interesting. In a forum like this most will not take the time to actually read long pieces so I just try to provoke thought and hope folks will look else where for more information. Then you have those who are only interested in attempting to demean those they disagree with, well they're just pathetic.

 

[hazlnut]

I’ve had many on the left whining when I say the policies they have instituted over the past 40 years or so have contributed to the moral decline of the country.
I’ll keep this as concise as I can, but it may get lengthy.

Congrats.

We officially diagnose you with diarrhea of the mouth.

 

[bripat9643]

I’ve had many on the left whining when I say the policies they have instituted over the past 40 years or so have contributed to the moral decline of the country.
I’ll keep this as concise as I can, but it may get lengthy.

Congrats.

We officially diagnose you with diarrhea of the mouth.

You are officially diagnosed with mental retardation.

 

[OKTexas]

OkraSexass knows what communism is by now, he just thinks it's clever to to accuse people of it. I had a thing for a while where I countered all commie accusations with the harshest Nazi accusation I could come up with, maybe I should bring that back.

Why would you use Nazi to counter communist, they are brothers, Nazis were just National Socialist. Both just wanted control and both killed millions of people. Just like your dear leaders buddy Bill Ayers, he proposed killing 10% of the US to establish control. But hey, he's just a guy in the neighborhood, right? Your dear leader didn't share that he gave speeches with Ayres, and shared an office with him or they were on boards together, did he. Enjoy being a tool, sounds like you were indoctrinated well.

Go on over to stormfront and ask the self-described nazis if they are also communists. Do you think the Nazis were honest? Hitler said and did a lot of things that were lies, especially the labels his propagandists attached to things, kind of like the democratic republic of Korea is not actually a democracy or a republic, but you know all that as you have no doubt heard this counterargument every time you pull out that bunch of bullshit. Do you really think Hitler was honest in his politics?

Hitler was just as honest as your dear leader, hell I think Maobama is better at labels and propaganda, he's managed to divide this country better than anyone.

 

[Political Junky]

OkraSexass knows what communism is by now, he just thinks it's clever to to accuse people of it. I had a thing for a while where I countered all commie accusations with the harshest Nazi accusation I could come up with, maybe I should bring that back.

Why would you use Nazi to counter communist, they are brothers, Nazis were just National Socialist. Both just wanted control and both killed millions of people. Just like your dear leaders buddy Bill Ayers, he proposed killing 10% of the US to establish control. But hey, he's just a guy in the neighborhood, right? Your dear leader didn't share that he gave speeches with Ayres, and shared an office with him or they were on boards together, did he. Enjoy being a tool, sounds like you were indoctrinated well.

Go on over to stormfront and ask the self-described nazis if they are also communists. Do you think the Nazis were honest? Hitler said and did a lot of things that were lies, especially the labels his propagandists attached to things, kind of like the democratic republic of Korea is not actually a democracy or a republic, but you know all that as you have no doubt heard this counterargument every time you pull out that bunch of bullshit. Do you really think Hitler was honest in his politics?

Interesting reading for right wingers.

No linking to other forums.

 

[occupied]

Why would you use Nazi to counter communist, they are brothers, Nazis were just National Socialist. Both just wanted control and both killed millions of people. Just like your dear leaders buddy Bill Ayers, he proposed killing 10% of the US to establish control. But hey, he's just a guy in the neighborhood, right? Your dear leader didn't share that he gave speeches with Ayres, and shared an office with him or they were on boards together, did he. Enjoy being a tool, sounds like you were indoctrinated well.

Go on over to stormfront and ask the self-described nazis if they are also communists. Do you think the Nazis were honest? Hitler said and did a lot of things that were lies, especially the labels his propagandists attached to things, kind of like the democratic republic of Korea is not actually a democracy or a republic, but you know all that as you have no doubt heard this counterargument every time you pull out that bunch of bullshit. Do you really think Hitler was honest in his politics?

Hitler was just as honest as your dear leader, hell I think Maobama is better at labels and propaganda, he's managed to divide this country better than anyone.

Should have known facts and logic wouldn't work on you OkraSexAss. You really suck at this. Trying to divert to a generic Obama slam is pathetic.