Why I am voting for Obama again

[Stephanie]

While in many ways Obama has been a disapointment, Romney wants to return to Bush's disasterous policies. I'll take disapointment over disaster. People can live with disapointment. They often die from disasters.
Romney will get support from a delusional base that operates with a functional death wish.

whatever, go vote for NO hope
8.2% UNEMPLOYMENT, gas prices up to 4 dollars a gallon, FOOD prices THROUGH the roof..no budget, 5 trillion more in dept, ObamaCare shoved on us that we can' AFFORD

 

[Truthmatters]

Democracy | Define Democracy at Dictionary.com



de·moc·ra·cy
   [dih-mok-ruh-see] Show IPA

noun, plural de·moc·ra·cies.
1.
government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

you just want to fight things for the sake of fighting. we are not a democratic government, get it out of your head.

every encyclopedia, dictionary and Jefferson say you are wrong.

the ONLY people who say this stupid shit you are saying are right wing nutters

 

[expatriate]

funny stuff.

Obama's grandfather was a communist who just so happened to work for the furniture store selling furniture.... HOW RADICAL! Obama's grandmother was a communist who worked for the bank.


and John Conyers, a supposed member of this evil and nefarious organization called the DSA is chairman of the judiciary committee. I wonder how Boehner let that slip by?

 

[peach174]

Jefferson said we were a democracy.

why are you calling him a liar?

Jefferson said he wanted the Republic form of government pushed it's max.
My most earnest wish is to see the republican element of popular control pushed to the maximum of its practicable exercise. I shall then believe that our government may be pure and perpetual. Accept my respectful salutations. Thomas Jefferson.

 

[Sunni Man]

we ARE a Democracy

TM all you do is lie about everything.

Have you ever recited the Pledge of Allegiance??



I pledge allegiance to the Flag
of the United States of America,
and to the Republic for which it stands:
one Nation under God, indivisible,
With Liberty and Justice for all.

 

[Truthmatters]

and a republic is a type of democracy you fact challenged asshole

 

[Sunni Man]

and a republic is a type of democracy you fact challenged asshole

So the Pledge of Allegiance doesn't say Republic??


I pledge allegiance to the Flag
of the United States of America,
and to the Republic for which it stands:
one Nation under God, indivisible,
With Liberty and Justice for all.

 

[tinydancer]

like Norquist the right wants to kill our democracy

Hell they even claim we are NOT a democracy

Every time you post Truthmatters you answer these burning questions for me.

"How fucking stupid can Democrats be? How did they elect a man with no experience to become the Commander in Chief of the greatest country on the planet? How could they be so insane?"

And then I read any given post by you, Lakhota, rdean and others and I get my answers.



America is a Republic.

The United States of America (commonly called the United States, the U.S., the USA, America, and the States) is a federal constitutional republic consisting of fifty states and a federal district.

United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[peach174]

and a republic is a type of democracy you fact challenged asshole

No it is not.
Thomas Jefferson: A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%.
We are a Republic and have become a democracy.
We need to get back to the Republic form of government again.

 

[Truthmatters]

Democracy - New World Encyclopedia


Forms of democracy



There are many variations on the forms of government that put ultimate rule in the citizens of a state:

Representative democracy

Representative democracy involves the selection of the legislature and executive by a popular election. Representatives are to make make decisions on behalf of those they represent. They retain the freedom to exercise their own judgment. Their constituents can communicate with them on important issues and choose a new representative in the next election if they are dissatisfied.

There are a number of systems of varying degrees of complexity for choosing representatives. They may be elected by a particular district (or constituency), or represent the electorate as a whole as in many proportional systems.

Liberal democracy

Classical liberal democracy is normally a representative democracy along with the protection of minorities, the rule of law, a separation of powers, and protection of liberties (thus the name "liberal") of speech, assembly, religion, and property.

Since the 1960s the term "liberal" has been used, often pejoratively, towards those legislatures that are liberal with state money and redistribute it to create a welfare state. However, this would be an illiberal democracy in classical terms, because it does not protect the property its citizens acquire.

Direct democracy

Direct democracy is a political system in which the citizens vote on major policy decisions and laws. Issues are resolved by popular vote, or referenda. Many people think direct democracy is the purest form of democracy. Direct democracies function better in small communities or in areas where people have a high degree of independence and self-sufficiency. Switzerland is a direct democracy where new laws often need a referendum in order to be passed. As it is a very stable and prosperous country, few people see any urgent need for change and so few new laws are passed. The system is also very decentralized, with few policies decided on a national level. This means that the French, Italian, and Romance language speaking minorities can order their affairs the way they choose and the large Swiss-German-speaking majority cannot over rule the local level, even if it wanted to.

Socialist democracy

Socialism, where the state economy is shaped by the government, has some forms that are based on democracy. Social democracy, democratic socialism, and the dictatorship of the proletariat are some examples of names applied to the ideal of a socialist democracy. Many democratic socialists and social democrats believe in a form of welfare state and workplace democracy produced by legislation by a representative democracy.

Marxist-Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists, and other "orthodox Marxists" generally promote democratic centralism, but they have never formed actual societies which were not ruled by elites who had acquired government power. Libertarian socialists generally believe in direct democracy and Libertarian Marxists often believe in a consociational state that combines consensus democracy with representative democracy. Such consensus democracy has existed in local-level community groups in rural communist China.

Anarchist democracy

The only form of democracy considered acceptable to many anarchists is direct democracy, which historically discriminates against minorities. However, some anarchists oppose direct democracy. Pierre-Joseph Proudhon argued that the only acceptable form of direct democracy is one in which it is recognized that majority decisions are not binding on the minority, even when unanimous.[18] However, anarcho-communist Murray Bookchin criticized individualist anarchists for opposing democracy,[19] and says "majority rule" is consistent with anarchism.

Sortition

Sortition (or allotment) has formed the basis of systems randomly selecting officers from the population. A much noted classical example would be the ancient Athenian democracy. Drawing by lot from a pool of qualified people elected by the citizens would be a democratic variation on sortition. Such a process would reduce the ability of wealthy contributors or election rigging to guarantee an outcome, and the problems associated with incumbent advantages would be eliminated.

Tribal and consensus democracy

Certain ethnic tribes organized themselves using different forms of participatory democracy or consensus democracy.[20] However, these are generally face-to-face communities, and it is difficult to develop consensus in a large impersonal modern bureaucratic state. Consensus democracy and deliberative democracy seek consensus among the people.[21]

 

[Too Tall]

funny stuff.

Obama's grandfather was a communist who just so happened to work for the furniture store selling furniture.... HOW RADICAL! Obama's grandmother was a communist who worked for the bank.


and John Conyers, a supposed member of this evil and nefarious organization called the DSA is chairman of the judiciary committee. I wonder how Boehner let that slip by?

Lamar Smith is the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and John Conyers is the ranking member. Boehner does not select who the Democrats appoint to these committees.

Are all Communists harmless, or just the some of them?

 

[Truthmatters]

Democracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Stephanie]

funny stuff.

Obama's grandfather was a communist who just so happened to work for the furniture store selling furniture.... HOW RADICAL! Obama's grandmother was a communist who worked for the bank.


and John Conyers, a supposed member of this evil and nefarious organization called the DSA is chairman of the judiciary committee. I wonder how Boehner let that slip by?

just keep your head buried in the sand and continue being the good sheep to the party..and chant, all hale the Democrat party

 

[Sunni Man]

Democracy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So according to you TM the Pledge of Allegiance should be rewritten to include the word Democracy?

I pledge allegiance to the Flag
of the United States of America,
and to the Republic , a form of Democracy, for which it stands:
one Nation under God, indivisible,
With Liberty and Justice for all.

 

[Stephanie]

anyone notice most elected Democrats call us a Democracy?

why do you think that is

 

[peach174]

We have both parties saying we are a democracy.
Until both parties get back to the limited federal government and follow the constitution of what the Feds are allowed to do, we will continue to be a democracy, instead of the Constitutional guarantee of being a Republic.

 

[expatriate]

funny stuff.

Obama's grandfather was a communist who just so happened to work for the furniture store selling furniture.... HOW RADICAL! Obama's grandmother was a communist who worked for the bank.


and John Conyers, a supposed member of this evil and nefarious organization called the DSA is chairman of the judiciary committee. I wonder how Boehner let that slip by?

just keep your head buried in the sand and continue being the good sheep to the party..and chant, all hale the Democrat party

keep cuttin' and pastin' stuff from right wing blog sites... it's what you've always done.

 

[expatriate]

So according to you TM the Pledge of Allegiance should be rewritten to include the word Democracy?

I pledge allegiance to the Flag
of the United States of America,
and to the Republic , a form of Democracy, for which it stands:
one Nation under God, indivisible,
With Liberty and Justice for all.

originally written by a socialist... and the "under God" part wasn't added until the 50's. So there certainly is precedent for editing it.

 

[Stephanie]

funny stuff.

Obama's grandfather was a communist who just so happened to work for the furniture store selling furniture.... HOW RADICAL! Obama's grandmother was a communist who worked for the bank.


and John Conyers, a supposed member of this evil and nefarious organization called the DSA is chairman of the judiciary committee. I wonder how Boehner let that slip by?

just keep your head buried in the sand and continue being the good sheep to the party..and chant, all hale the Democrat party

keep cuttin' and pastin' stuff from right wing blog sites... it's what you've always done.

really? your 13th post and you have us all figured out eh?
just be a good little tool for the Progressive party

 

[expatriate]

just keep your head buried in the sand and continue being the good sheep to the party..and chant, all hale the Democrat party

keep cuttin' and pastin' stuff from right wing blog sites... it's what you've always done.

really? your 13th post and you have us all figured out eh?
just be a good little tool for the Progressive party

I've seen you operate on other sites, sweetie.