Why I am not a Christian...

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    There are many reasons, of which I will illustrate only a couple, but first, let us define what a Christian is.

    Many claim to be "Christian", but what exactly does that label entail? There are, essentially, two factors involved. The first, of a dogmatic nature, is a belief in God and immortality. Failing to belive in these two things, I think, effectively bars one from Christian ranks. The second is a belief in Jesus, which effectively bars Muslims and Jews from the halls of Christendom.

    As for a belief in religion, the only reason people accept the teachings of Christianity, or any other religion for that matter, are emotional, and rooted in fear. It is the terror of the unknown, in part, as well as the wish to ahve some sort of big brother to help one through all one's trails and tribulations. But fear is the root of it. Fear of the unkown, fear of the different, fear of death. Fear gives rise to cruelty, and it is no surprise then that religion and cruelty have gone hand in hand down through the centuries.

    I don't fear the unkown. I don't fear that which is different. I don't fear death. These things simply are, and to fear them give rise to unwarranted anxietywhich leads one to flee to the vicarious comfort of religion. I grew up, and left childish things behind me, not the least of which was religion. It serves many well, giving them comfort in their daily lives. But too many others use it for their own ends, which have nothing to do with the ideals of their religion. Instead the gratification of their own egos is their goal. Just watch the televised rants of any religious zealot for the proof of that .
     
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    Religious zealots and good Christians are not one and the same! As in many other facets of life, there are those that go to extremes. So let me ask you - do you believe in doing unto others as they do unto you? Or do you just treat people however the hell you feel at the moment? Although I for one am not overly fond of organized relgion, I still feel one can be a good christian by basically running their life according to the ten commandments. And I do believe that Jews, Arabs and what have you can lead a fine and good life if they are brought up properly and learn good from bad, right from wrong. I don't think anyone in this forum has ever said the only way is the Christian way! The bitterness towards other religions comes when we hear of some of their ways of handling things.
     
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    I treat people with the respect and dignity they deserve as human beings. One need not be christian to be a good person. It is those who hold that their way is the only way and all others are damned that my ire is directed against.
     
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    way way to black and white Bully, while I respect[ and mostly disagree with the majority of your views] your outlooks. I am not going to have a murdering Mom get off by pleading insanity. I am not going to have my children and grandchildren reading books in the first grade about 2 men falling in love. I am not going to allow my family to be made to believe that having an abortion isnt plain and simple murder. If you want to be like Mother Theresa, go to India. I believe in a higher power, heaven, hell, good and evil. What does that make me?
     
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    That's got to be the most hilarious statement you've ever made. Your avatar and the way you speak on this board to those and about whom you do not agree belies your obvious in-adhesion to that dictate.

    Yes, many people believe in religion for the comfort it brings them about the afterlife. Your point is?? Many believe in religion because they have something called faith. Many believe in a supreme being because there is no other answer that satisfies. Your pathetic attempt to portray christians as a herd of sheep following dogma is just that, pathetic.

    I feel much more contempt for you than I do for the bulk of religious people. At least they are searching for answers and trying to make the world better.

    All you do is criticize others and ridicule them. How the heck does that make the world a better place?
     
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    dont take this the wrong way but that second reason is about the dumbest thing ive ever heard. Why would Muslims and Jews want to be in the halls of Christendom? They dont believe Christ was the Messiah who suffered and died for the sins of the world. Why on earth would they care if they were in the halls of Christendom? Its just silly.
     
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    I think your idea of religeon is all wrong,Bully. While some religeons do use scare tactics,not all. In the church that I went to growing up and still go to now,fear was never a component of their teaching. Growing up, I was tought faith,acceptance,and love. That God was a forgiving God,and I was never told I was going to Hell for sinning. I was also taught that our God was a loving God. Everyone has there own relationship with God,or not in your case. I feel it in my heart and in no way does he scare me,but helps me when I need it. It comes from the soul for me. If you believe you can be a good person without believing,you can be. But what are you basing your ideas of being a good person on? Not stealing,not lying,not killing-these are all basic rules that society follows. Wonder where we got those ideas? Oh yea-the ten commandments.

    :clap: :D
     
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    Krisy I could not agree with you more !

    Bully is just a little misguided, he has read the texts of his faith but has not been enlightened to their true meanings. He tries to intellectualize what was meant not to be. Very Sad indeed !
     
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    I fear all these things and I quake before my God.

    I bet you'd fear death if a cocked 9mm were pressed to your temple. Jesus, Mohammad, mommy --- you'd be calling out for one of 'em, for damn sure.
     
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    Wow you are giving him more credit then i would. I wouldnt be surprised if he hasnt read squat
     

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