Why I am not a christian

7 Reason why Religion is a Mental Disorder

(1) Hallucinations - the person has invisible friends who (s)he insists are real, and to whom (s)he speaks daily, even though nobody can actually see or hear these friends

(2) Delusions - the patient believes that the invisible person has magical powers to make them rich, cure cancer, bring about world peace, and will do so eventually if asked.

(3) Denial/Inability to learn - though the requests for world peace remain unanswered, even after hundreds of years, the patients persist with the praying behavior, each time expecting different results

(4) Inability to distinguish fantasy from reality - the beliefs are contingent upon ancient mythology being accepted as historical fact.

(5) Paranoia - the belief that anyone who does not share their supernatural concept of reality is "evil," "the devil," "an agent of Satan"

(6) Emotional abuse - religious concepts such as sin, hell, cause feelings of guilt, shame, fear, and other types of emotional "baggage" which can scar the psyche for life

(7) Violence - many patients insist that others should share in their delusions, even to the extent of using harassment and violence.

The trouble with an analysis like this, is that it can all too easily be turned around so that it is the non-believer who has a "mental disorder" or a brain mechanism that is not functioning properly. What I am observing is that unbelievers who have been threatened with hell find some relief in threatening those they see as harassing them with 'straw' mental disorders.

People may want to keep in mind that many believers live their lives without once threatening anyone with hell, but instead work to bring peace, joy, and comfort to family and friends. That is the peace and happiness we offer the world. On behalf of believers, I do apologize to everyone who has felt threatened or crushed. That is not the Gospel message we were asked to announce.

I have concluded, personally, that this tendency to assume mental issues in others based upon what they believe is really a disorder in itself. People have trouble getting the concept into their heads that other people actually exist. By that I mean, other people are separate entities rather than extensions of ourselves. If they are nothing but an extension of me, then obviously any thinking they might express which is different than my own must be a disorder. Since my own thinking is the only thinking which truly exists, anything else is out of the norm by definition.

magical thinking is a mental disorder

Really? Where would I find that in the DSM-V?
 
7 Reason why Religion is a Mental Disorder

(1) Hallucinations - the person has invisible friends who (s)he insists are real, and to whom (s)he speaks daily, even though nobody can actually see or hear these friends

(2) Delusions - the patient believes that the invisible person has magical powers to make them rich, cure cancer, bring about world peace, and will do so eventually if asked.

(3) Denial/Inability to learn - though the requests for world peace remain unanswered, even after hundreds of years, the patients persist with the praying behavior, each time expecting different results

(4) Inability to distinguish fantasy from reality - the beliefs are contingent upon ancient mythology being accepted as historical fact.

(5) Paranoia - the belief that anyone who does not share their supernatural concept of reality is "evil," "the devil," "an agent of Satan"

(6) Emotional abuse - religious concepts such as sin, hell, cause feelings of guilt, shame, fear, and other types of emotional "baggage" which can scar the psyche for life

(7) Violence - many patients insist that others should share in their delusions, even to the extent of using harassment and violence.

The trouble with an analysis like this, is that it can all too easily be turned around so that it is the non-believer who has a "mental disorder" or a brain mechanism that is not functioning properly. What I am observing is that unbelievers who have been threatened with hell find some relief in threatening those they see as harassing them with 'straw' mental disorders.

People may want to keep in mind that many believers live their lives without once threatening anyone with hell, but instead work to bring peace, joy, and comfort to family and friends. That is the peace and happiness we offer the world. On behalf of believers, I do apologize to everyone who has felt threatened or crushed. That is not the Gospel message we were asked to announce.

I have concluded, personally, that this tendency to assume mental issues in others based upon what they believe is really a disorder in itself. People have trouble getting the concept into their heads that other people actually exist. By that I mean, other people are separate entities rather than extensions of ourselves. If they are nothing but an extension of me, then obviously any thinking they might express which is different than my own must be a disorder. Since my own thinking is the only thinking which truly exists, anything else is out of the norm by definition.

magical thinking is a mental disorder

Really? Where would I find that in the DSM-V?


Chapter 2
Schizophrenia Spectrum and Other Psychotic Disorders
 
Religious psychosis is curable, since it is not a genetic or neurodegenerative condition, though a person with a very advanced degree of religious fanaticism, such as some of the Biblical fanatics t, probably have much less chance of being cured.

Religious psychosis does however produce many of the "symptoms" of schizophrenia; some studies indicate that as many as approximately 20% to 25% of schizophrenics in psychiatric institutions are suffering from a religious form of schizophrenia.
 
And according to abraham Lincoln 75% of internet statistics are pulled out of the poster's rear end
 
7 Reason why Religion is a Mental Disorder

(1) Hallucinations - the person has invisible friends who (s)he insists are real, and to whom (s)he speaks daily, even though nobody can actually see or hear these friends

(2) Delusions - the patient believes that the invisible person has magical powers to make them rich, cure cancer, bring about world peace, and will do so eventually if asked.

(3) Denial/Inability to learn - though the requests for world peace remain unanswered, even after hundreds of years, the patients persist with the praying behavior, each time expecting different results

(4) Inability to distinguish fantasy from reality - the beliefs are contingent upon ancient mythology being accepted as historical fact.

(5) Paranoia - the belief that anyone who does not share their supernatural concept of reality is "evil," "the devil," "an agent of Satan"

(6) Emotional abuse - religious concepts such as sin, hell, cause feelings of guilt, shame, fear, and other types of emotional "baggage" which can scar the psyche for life

(7) Violence - many patients insist that others should share in their delusions, even to the extent of using harassment and violence.

The trouble with an analysis like this, is that it can all too easily be turned around so that it is the non-believer who has a "mental disorder" or a brain mechanism that is not functioning properly. What I am observing is that unbelievers who have been threatened with hell find some relief in threatening those they see as harassing them with 'straw' mental disorders.

People may want to keep in mind that many believers live their lives without once threatening anyone with hell, but instead work to bring peace, joy, and comfort to family and friends. That is the peace and happiness we offer the world. On behalf of believers, I do apologize to everyone who has felt threatened or crushed. That is not the Gospel message we were asked to announce.

I have concluded, personally, that this tendency to assume mental issues in others based upon what they believe is really a disorder in itself. People have trouble getting the concept into their heads that other people actually exist. By that I mean, other people are separate entities rather than extensions of ourselves. If they are nothing but an extension of me, then obviously any thinking they might express which is different than my own must be a disorder. Since my own thinking is the only thinking which truly exists, anything else is out of the norm by definition.

magical thinking is a mental disorder

Really? Where would I find that in the DSM-V?


Chapter 2
Schizophrenia Spectrum and Other Psychotic Disorders

Interesting. Help me out because I can't find this in my copy. Where exactly does it say religious belief is a disorder? Just give me the page number.
 
C_Clayton_Jones said:
“Religion is based, I think, primarily and mainly upon fear.

Huh... Says the fearful....

It is partly the terror of the unknown and partly, as I have said, the wish to feel that you have a kind of elder brother who will stand by you in all your troubles and disputes.

Says the lonely...

[/quote]Fear is the basis of the whole thing -- [/quote]

Says the subjective...

... fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death.

Says the braggart.

Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand.
Says the cruel...
 
I always found his arrogance to be amusing. His debating techniques are exquisite though and he lays bare his soul in this lecture that his intelligence trumps all faith. His god is Bertrand Russell you see. :)
Yes, I was surprised when I saw a book entitled 'why I am not a Christian' in the library and I though, what kind of arrogant bastard could have written that, It must be Bertrand Russell. and I was right. But it turns out to be a lecture not a book written specially. Anyway, now it is on the Internet free to read.
The main argument I have with Russell is that religion is based on fear.
I always found his arrogance to be amusing. His debating techniques are exquisite though and he lays bare his soul in this lecture that his intelligence trumps all faith. His god is Bertrand Russell you see. :)
Yes, I was surprised when I saw a book entitled 'why I am not a Christian' in the library and I though, what kind of arrogant bastard could have written that, It must be Bertrand Russell. and I was right. But it turns out to be a lecture not a book written specially. Anyway, now it is on the Internet free to read.
The main argument I have with Russell is that religion is based on fear.
I always found his arrogance to be amusing. His debating techniques are exquisite though and he lays bare his soul in this lecture that his intelligence trumps all faith. His god is Bertrand Russell you see. :)
Yes, I was surprised when I saw a book entitled 'why I am not a Christian' in the library and I though, what kind of arrogant bastard could have written that, It must be Bertrand Russell. and I was right. But it turns out to be a lecture not a book written specially. Anyway, now it is on the Internet free to read.
The main argument I have with Russell is that religion is based on fear.
Religion is the glue that makes it possible to believe in the various gods. One person talking about worshiping an invisible, magical being would correctly be called crazy but there's safety in numbers. We have become so accustomed to this insanity that many don't even question the mental status of rabidly delirious believers.
I always found his arrogance to be amusing. His debating techniques are exquisite though and he lays bare his soul in this lecture that his intelligence trumps all faith. His god is Bertrand Russell you see. :)
Yes, I was surprised when I saw a book entitled 'why I am not a Christian' in the library and I though, what kind of arrogant bastard could have written that, It must be Bertrand Russell. and I was right. But it turns out to be a lecture not a book written specially. Anyway, now it is on the Internet free to read.
The main argument I have with Russell is that religion is based on fear.
I always found his arrogance to be amusing. His debating techniques are exquisite though and he lays bare his soul in this lecture that his intelligence trumps all faith.

His god is Bertrand Russell you see. :)

Yes, I was surprised when I saw a book entitled 'why I am not a Christian' in the library and I though, what kind of arrogant bastard could have written that, It must be Bertrand Russell. and I was right. But it turns out to be a lecture not a book written specially. Anyway, now it is on the Internet free to read.
The main argument I have with Russell is that religion is based on fear.

In many ways he is correct when he lectures on religion.

He is quite magician with words. He makes a solid case for true. But I am based on faith.

Faith is different from religion. A whole different ballgame baby. A whole new shebang.

When I came to the son thru the father it wasn't in a church. I'm not knocking that way. No no no no no.

But we have to differentiate between faith and religion.



Religion is based on faith.
 
I always found his arrogance to be amusing. His debating techniques are exquisite though and he lays bare his soul in this lecture that his intelligence trumps all faith.

His god is Bertrand Russell you see. :)

Yes, I was surprised when I saw a book entitled 'why I am not a Christian' in the library and I though, what kind of arrogant bastard could have written that, It must be Bertrand Russell. and I was right. But it turns out to be a lecture not a book written specially. Anyway, now it is on the Internet free to read.
The main argument I have with Russell is that religion is based on fear.


Religion is the glue that makes it possible to believe in the various gods. One person talking about worshiping an invisible, magical being would correctly be called crazy but there's safety in numbers.

We have become so accustomed to this insanity that many don't even question the mental status of rabidly delirious believers.

Are you going to be the one to tell so many Muslims they are wrong to believe in Christ?


Is that Luddly's job?
 
C_Clayton_Jones said:
“Religion is based, I think, primarily and mainly upon fear.

Huh... Says the fearful....

It is partly the terror of the unknown and partly, as I have said, the wish to feel that you have a kind of elder brother who will stand by you in all your troubles and disputes.

Says the lonely...
Fear is the basis of the whole thing -- [/quote]

Says the subjective...

... fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death.

Says the braggart.

Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand.
Says the cruel...[/QUOTE]




Psychological projection
is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude.


Psychological projection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
This thread is not about my not being a Christian but about the views of Bertrand Russell. I have just found his lecture about it on the following link. It is not too long to read if anyone is interested in discussing it.

Why I Am Not A Christian by Bertrand Russell

I prefer the book, "Why I'm not Bertrand Russel", by God.

Hi! Votto, long time no see.

Perhaps I should go over reasons why I'm a Christian.

1. People suck. Just look at the world and the state of mankind. We kill, steal, lie, habitually.
2. Jesus. The one man who did none of these things, for which he was killed, and offered the only alternative to climbing a tower and start shooting people, after which, turning the gun on yourself.

It's pretty simple really.
 

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