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Why do people feel the need to share their thoughts on why they are or are not followers of any faith. Frankly, I couldn't give a shit.
It's also very entertaining that the socialists are so desperate to sell their product that they resort to using the rather pathetic reason of 'Christ was a socialist'.... Clearly, they have no concept of Christianity or any other faith. It is laughably stupid.
This is a message board. People speak what is on their mind. Personally, I think it's very interesting to read other people's thoughts on religion. It helps me understand my own.Why do people feel the need to share their thoughts on why they are or are not followers of any faith. Frankly, I couldn't give a shit.
It's also very entertaining that the socialists are so desperate to sell their product that they resort to using the rather pathetic reason of 'Christ was a socialist'.... Clearly, they have no concept of Christianity or any other faith. It is laughably stupid.
Jesus taught a socialist economy....which is why the earliest Christians were socialists.
Actually I think the early christians were republicans.
Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesars, and unto God the things that are Gods
They didn't want to pay unfair taxes either.
Why do people feel the need to share their thoughts on why they are or are not followers of any faith. Frankly, I couldn't give a shit.
It's also very entertaining that the socialists are so desperate to sell their product that they resort to using the rather pathetic reason of 'Christ was a socialist'.... Clearly, they have no concept of Christianity or any other faith. It is laughably stupid.
It's because we want to have discussions and share who we are with people.
I understand some dont care and that's fine. But i think it's interesting
I was raised (in my early years) by two pinkos with VERY independent minds, and taught such things as how to read. When the folks were gone, I was raised in a Catholic orphanage. All religion, all the time, 24/7. I said the rosary every night and went to Confession every Saturday. I had Religious Instruction every day at school. So why didn't it stick?
The first thing I objected to was this need some folks seemed to have to have their asses kissed because they were Clergy. It didn't help that they were, almost to a person, sadistic, uncaring, evil fuckwhits. Ass kissing has just never been part of my skill set. I had a checkmark for "fails to show proper respect to Clergy" on my report card even single time for a decade -- and every time I would think "seems like the proper amount of respect to me -- ZERO."
So in no special order of importance, here's a list of the reasons I am not a Christian. I am hoping someone who is can address any of them and we can dialogue.
1. If God is Omnipotent, then why is there evil in the world? I have heard every single justification for this, from free will to the "evil is necessary so goodness an show up by contrast" one. None of them wash with me.
2. If Christ is the Messiah, then why didn't humanity enjoy a better life after he was here? There were still wars, and poverty, and suffering. I don't think most Christians understand the Jewish concept of a "Messiah". That person is supposed to SAVE us. I'm not feeling the saving bit so much.
3. I don't get what the Holy Spirit is about. A Supreme Being that seems not to have existed before God wanted to knock Mary up and now has no purpose at all.
4. The notion of a Trinity seems to contradict the first of the Ten Commandments: monotheism. If there is only one God, there cannot be three. It just isn't rational.
5. Speaking of rational, thanks for the condemnation of abortion, birth control, sex for Clergy (that paid off so well, didn't it?), people who are not Catholic (or whatever flavor you may be), etc. A special thanks to the "Creationism" nutters who've brought a new age of enlightenment into the classroom.
6. How is it "Christian" to deny food or medical care to a child if their parents won't first agree to convert to your religion? If your religion is so great, won't the people whom you serve eventually get curious about it? Why's it okay to coerce people into relinquishing their culture and their beliefs in favor of yours because you have the economic upper hand?
7. If prayer actually works, and God actually listens, isn't it evil to pray for the defeat of a high school football team or the results of a test? Doesn't God expect that you'll only pray for stuff that brings you closer to him?
8. How is it possible to reconcile, in your own mind, all the hatred and aggression undertaken in the name of religion with any message of any major religion? You know that it is wrong. How is it okay to commit Major Evil as long as you invoke God's name?
9. How can you seriously believe that a man in a red jump suit "tempts" you? Why can't you just accept responsibility for the evil you do? You're human -- no one has to tempt you. You're full of evil, selfish impulses and can only control them through the wonders of social conditioning, like the rest of us.
10. Why do you need a "promise of Heaven" to do what you know is right? Don't you have a conscience? When you do the wrong thing, don't you feel that?
By the way, I don't belong to any organized religion but I singled out Christians because I have been treated to their irrationality somewhat more often. No Muslim or Jew or Buddist, etc. has ever prosletized to me.
We each need to choose, or circumstance will choose for us. I don't think the Jew's understood that Messiah thing either. Psalms Chapter 22. Isaiah Chapter 53 Good joke though. There are options. I think that True Science has a place, just as the Search for Truth in Religion has a place? How about you? When we distinguish what we know from what we presume we know, we find that we have made some very silly mistakes along the way with our false conclusions. Ah.... What do I know/ ... The class room has taught much worse than the creation theory. Impartiality far from the structure that guides the structure, huh... On that subject do you think it's better to pray that God is on your side, or that You are on God's side? Are you part of the problem, or are you part of the solution? SNL used to do a funny skit where this lady is always praying to Jesus, interrupting his schedule and all. It's a refreshing look at over kill. Have you ever considered the value of being aware of God's presence in the present, here and now, and just to learn to appreciate His presence, company, and comfort? It's not rocket science. Wouldn't that be a nice change??? Jeremiah Chapter 23 related to what people falsely say and do in God's name. Hint. In constructing things, it is good for form to have a close relationship with purpose and intent. The farther you stray the more we all pay. You understand temptation. You understand conscience. Choose. Jesus taught a socialist economy....which is why the earliest Christians were socialists.
Actually I think the early christians were republicans.
Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesars, and unto God the things that are Gods
They didn't want to pay unfair taxes either.
That's the common misinterpretation but anyone who has studied the issue knows it is way off base. Not to mention the fact Jesus never paid taxes once his ministry began.
I was raised (in my early years) by two pinkos with VERY independent minds, and taught such things as how to read. When the folks were gone, I was raised in a Catholic orphanage. All religion, all the time, 24/7. I said the rosary every night and went to Confession every Saturday. I had Religious Instruction every day at school. So why didn't it stick?
The first thing I objected to was this need some folks seemed to have to have their asses kissed because they were Clergy. It didn't help that they were, almost to a person, sadistic, uncaring, evil fuckwhits. Ass kissing has just never been part of my skill set. I had a checkmark for "fails to show proper respect to Clergy" on my report card even single time for a decade -- and every time I would think "seems like the proper amount of respect to me -- ZERO."
So in no special order of importance, here's a list of the reasons I am not a Christian. I am hoping someone who is can address any of them and we can dialogue.
1. If God is Omnipotent, then why is there evil in the world? I have heard every single justification for this, from free will to the "evil is necessary so goodness an show up by contrast" one. None of them wash with me.
2. If Christ is the Messiah, then why didn't humanity enjoy a better life after he was here? There were still wars, and poverty, and suffering. I don't think most Christians understand the Jewish concept of a "Messiah". That person is supposed to SAVE us. I'm not feeling the saving bit so much.
3. I don't get what the Holy Spirit is about. A Supreme Being that seems not to have existed before God wanted to knock Mary up and now has no purpose at all.
4. The notion of a Trinity seems to contradict the first of the Ten Commandments: monotheism. If there is only one God, there cannot be three. It just isn't rational.
5. Speaking of rational, thanks for the condemnation of abortion, birth control, sex for Clergy (that paid off so well, didn't it?), people who are not Catholic (or whatever flavor you may be), etc. A special thanks to the "Creationism" nutters who've brought a new age of enlightenment into the classroom.
6. How is it "Christian" to deny food or medical care to a child if their parents won't first agree to convert to your religion? If your religion is so great, won't the people whom you serve eventually get curious about it? Why's it okay to coerce people into relinquishing their culture and their beliefs in favor of yours because you have the economic upper hand?
7. If prayer actually works, and God actually listens, isn't it evil to pray for the defeat of a high school football team or the results of a test? Doesn't God expect that you'll only pray for stuff that brings you closer to him?
8. How is it possible to reconcile, in your own mind, all the hatred and aggression undertaken in the name of religion with any message of any major religion? You know that it is wrong. How is it okay to commit Major Evil as long as you invoke God's name?
9. How can you seriously believe that a man in a red jump suit "tempts" you? Why can't you just accept responsibility for the evil you do? You're human -- no one has to tempt you. You're full of evil, selfish impulses and can only control them through the wonders of social conditioning, like the rest of us.
10. Why do you need a "promise of Heaven" to do what you know is right? Don't you have a conscience? When you do the wrong thing, don't you feel that?
By the way, I don't belong to any organized religion but I singled out Christians because I have been treated to their irrationality somewhat more often. No Muslim or Jew or Buddist, etc. has ever prosletized to me.
Jesus believed in a low capital gains tax rate.
If living in the Vatican is living in poverty, please may I have some? [/COLOR]
I used to live in Italy, and visited the Vatican museums perhaps 30 times.
Let me tell you, those Raphael Stanzas get old.
It drove me to Jackson Pollack and the bottle.
That may be but the swiss guard hunks sure don't get old.
I'm not christian because I would NOT join any club that would have glenn beck
or rush limbaugh
or pat robertson
or ann coulter
as a member
Jesus believed in a low capital gains tax rate.
jesus was an early proponent of mortgage backed derivatives.
I was raised (in my early years) by two pinkos with VERY independent minds, and taught such things as how to read. When the folks were gone, I was raised in a Catholic orphanage. All religion, all the time, 24/7. I said the rosary every night and went to Confession every Saturday. I had Religious Instruction every day at school. So why didn't it stick?
The first thing I objected to was this need some folks seemed to have to have their asses kissed because they were Clergy. It didn't help that they were, almost to a person, sadistic, uncaring, evil fuckwhits. Ass kissing has just never been part of my skill set. I had a checkmark for "fails to show proper respect to Clergy" on my report card even single time for a decade -- and every time I would think "seems like the proper amount of respect to me -- ZERO."
So in no special order of importance, here's a list of the reasons I am not a Christian. I am hoping someone who is can address any of them and we can dialogue.
1. If God is Omnipotent, then why is there evil in the world? I have heard every single justification for this, from free will to the "evil is necessary so goodness an show up by contrast" one. None of them wash with me.
2. If Christ is the Messiah, then why didn't humanity enjoy a better life after he was here? There were still wars, and poverty, and suffering. I don't think most Christians understand the Jewish concept of a "Messiah". That person is supposed to SAVE us. I'm not feeling the saving bit so much.
3. I don't get what the Holy Spirit is about. A Supreme Being that seems not to have existed before God wanted to knock Mary up and now has no purpose at all.
4. The notion of a Trinity seems to contradict the first of the Ten Commandments: monotheism. If there is only one God, there cannot be three. It just isn't rational.
5. Speaking of rational, thanks for the condemnation of abortion, birth control, sex for Clergy (that paid off so well, didn't it?), people who are not Catholic (or whatever flavor you may be), etc. A special thanks to the "Creationism" nutters who've brought a new age of enlightenment into the classroom.
6. How is it "Christian" to deny food or medical care to a child if their parents won't first agree to convert to your religion? If your religion is so great, won't the people whom you serve eventually get curious about it? Why's it okay to coerce people into relinquishing their culture and their beliefs in favor of yours because you have the economic upper hand?
7. If prayer actually works, and God actually listens, isn't it evil to pray for the defeat of a high school football team or the results of a test? Doesn't God expect that you'll only pray for stuff that brings you closer to him?
8. How is it possible to reconcile, in your own mind, all the hatred and aggression undertaken in the name of religion with any message of any major religion? You know that it is wrong. How is it okay to commit Major Evil as long as you invoke God's name?
9. How can you seriously believe that a man in a red jump suit "tempts" you? Why can't you just accept responsibility for the evil you do? You're human -- no one has to tempt you. You're full of evil, selfish impulses and can only control them through the wonders of social conditioning, like the rest of us.
10. Why do you need a "promise of Heaven" to do what you know is right? Don't you have a conscience? When you do the wrong thing, don't you feel that?
By the way, I don't belong to any organized religion but I singled out Christians because I have been treated to their irrationality somewhat more often. No Muslim or Jew or Buddist, etc. has ever prosletized to me.
I'm not christian because I would NOT join any club that would have glenn beck
or rush limbaugh
or pat robertson
or ann coulter
as a member
Jesus believed in a low capital gains tax rate.
jesus was an early proponent of mortgage backed derivatives.
He made $2 billion shorting them by having Goldman Sachs construct a CDO then selling the other side to some stupid German insurer.
I'm doing 'God's work'. Meet Mr Goldman Sachs - Times Online
Why I Am Not A Christian
Why I Am Not A Christian
I just did a google image search for "Good Luck With That" and this popped up. It must mean something:
do you think i care if anybody cares?apparently you care enough to post that you don't care.
so tell us, what is important enough to you to say something more than talking about it is laughably stupid?
is that really your picture in your profile?
when i read your posts i see someone who is fat, ugly and has warts on her chin, not somebody i'd like to caress with my tongue.
Do you honestly think anyone cares who or what you'd like to caress with your tongue?
i was trying not to be vulgar, but since you chimed in, i really think you ladies need your clits nibbled on more often.
if you got head more often you wouldn't act like you had chronic PMS.
maybe if your significant others knew that foreplay was more than a slap in the ass and yelling at you to wake up so he could slam his salami into you, y'all might be more pleasant and have more worthwhile input here.
Why I Am Not A Christian
I just did a google image search for "Good Luck With That" and this popped up. It must mean something:
I think it means a mouth full.
do you think i care if anybody cares?Do you honestly think anyone cares who or what you'd like to caress with your tongue?
i was trying not to be vulgar, but since you chimed in, i really think you ladies need your clits nibbled on more often.
if you got head more often you wouldn't act like you had chronic PMS.
maybe if your significant others knew that foreplay was more than a slap in the ass and yelling at you to wake up so he could slam his salami into you, y'all might be more pleasant and have more worthwhile input here.
You are the reason ladies become lesbians.. you aren't the only one with a tongue..
