Why has the left and the press forgot 9-11 every occurred? this is political

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They talk about deficits and jobs and Clinton's "surplus"

They compare all of this, but never mention what 9-11 did to us
Enron (Sarbanes Oxley)
4 major Hurricanes in 05, shuts down parts of Florida for months
2 including Katrina in 06

9-11 brought 2 wars
The left act like these 2 wars are GWB fault
Should we have added a tax to pay for them? I say yes now, but a VAT tax that went away the minute the war(s) ended, Like Iraq is now
I did not think so then for good reasons

The deficit did not become a problem until Obama went to spending trillions in months instead of trillions in years
We went from 162 billion of breaking even in 2007 (the last GOP budget) to where we are now
And yes lost revenue is part of it
just as it was for GWB after 9-11-2001
 
They talk about deficits and jobs and Clinton's "surplus"

They compare all of this, but never mention what 9-11 did to us
Enron (Sarbanes Oxley)
4 major Hurricanes in 05, shuts down parts of Florida for months
2 including Katrina in 06

9-11 brought 2 wars
The left act like these 2 wars are GWB fault
Should we have added a tax to pay for them? I say yes now, but a VAT tax that went away the minute the war(s) ended, Like Iraq is now
I did not think so then for good reasons

The deficit did not become a problem until Obama went to spending trillions in months instead of trillions in years
We went from 162 billion of breaking even in 2007 (the last GOP budget) to where we are now
And yes lost revenue is part of it
just as it was for GWB after 9-11-2001

that's because they are.

thanks for playing
 
They talk about deficits and jobs and Clinton's "surplus"

They compare all of this, but never mention what 9-11 did to us
Enron (Sarbanes Oxley)
4 major Hurricanes in 05, shuts down parts of Florida for months
2 including Katrina in 06

9-11 brought 2 wars
The left act like these 2 wars are GWB fault
Should we have added a tax to pay for them? I say yes now, but a VAT tax that went away the minute the war(s) ended, Like Iraq is now
I did not think so then for good reasons

The deficit did not become a problem until Obama went to spending trillions in months instead of trillions in years
We went from 162 billion of breaking even in 2007 (the last GOP budget) to where we are now
And yes lost revenue is part of it
just as it was for GWB after 9-11-2001
Simply NOT TRUE that we were only 162 billion from breaking even in 2007....

we added $500 BILLION/a half a trillion, to the National Debt in fiscal 2007

Date Debt Held by the Public Intragovernmental Holdings

Total Public Debt Outstanding
09/29/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23

09/29/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
Government - Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)
 
They talk about deficits and jobs and Clinton's "surplus"

They compare all of this, but never mention what 9-11 did to us
Enron (Sarbanes Oxley)
4 major Hurricanes in 05, shuts down parts of Florida for months
2 including Katrina in 06

9-11 brought 2 wars
The left act like these 2 wars are GWB fault
Should we have added a tax to pay for them? I say yes now, but a VAT tax that went away the minute the war(s) ended, Like Iraq is now
I did not think so then for good reasons

The deficit did not become a problem until Obama went to spending trillions in months instead of trillions in years
We went from 162 billion of breaking even in 2007 (the last GOP budget) to where we are now
And yes lost revenue is part of it
just as it was for GWB after 9-11-2001
Simply NOT TRUE that we were only 162 billion from breaking even in 2007....

we added $500 BILLION/a half a trillion, to the National Debt in fiscal 2007

Date Debt Held by the Public Intragovernmental Holdings

Total Public Debt Outstanding
09/29/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23

09/29/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
Government - Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

why
why
why
why
Your looking at total with interest and not for the year
interest added
we are trying to balance the budget, then work on the total deficit

In 2004 the federal budget deficit was 412 billion dollars. In 2005 it dropped to 318 billion dollars. In 2006 the deficit dipped to 248 billion dollars. And, in 2007 it fell below 200 billion to 162 billion dollars. During the Bush years the average unemployment rate was 5.2 percent, the economy saw the strongest productivity growth in four decades and there was robust GDP growth.

After an unheard of record deficit last year of $1.4 Trillion the economy is on track to experience a $1.47 Trillion deficit this year.
Obama July Deficit of $167 Billion Tops Bush Deficit For Entire Year of 2007 | The Gateway Pundit
 
They talk about deficits and jobs and Clinton's "surplus"

They compare all of this, but never mention what 9-11 did to us
Enron (Sarbanes Oxley)
4 major Hurricanes in 05, shuts down parts of Florida for months
2 including Katrina in 06

9-11 brought 2 wars
The left act like these 2 wars are GWB fault
Should we have added a tax to pay for them? I say yes now, but a VAT tax that went away the minute the war(s) ended, Like Iraq is now
I did not think so then for good reasons

The deficit did not become a problem until Obama went to spending trillions in months instead of trillions in years
We went from 162 billion of breaking even in 2007 (the last GOP budget) to where we are now
And yes lost revenue is part of it
just as it was for GWB after 9-11-2001
Simply NOT TRUE that we were only 162 billion from breaking even in 2007....

we added $500 BILLION/a half a trillion, to the National Debt in fiscal 2007

Date Debt Held by the Public Intragovernmental Holdings

Total Public Debt Outstanding
09/29/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23

09/29/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
Government - Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

why
why
why
why
Your looking at total with interest and not for the year
interest added
we are trying to balance the budget, then work on the total deficit

In 2004 the federal budget deficit was 412 billion dollars. In 2005 it dropped to 318 billion dollars. In 2006 the deficit dipped to 248 billion dollars. And, in 2007 it fell below 200 billion to 162 billion dollars. During the Bush years the average unemployment rate was 5.2 percent, the economy saw the strongest productivity growth in four decades and there was robust GDP growth.

After an unheard of record deficit last year of $1.4 Trillion the economy is on track to experience a $1.47 Trillion deficit this year.
Obama July Deficit of $167 Billion Tops Bush Deficit For Entire Year of 2007 | The Gateway Pundit
the so called ''budget deficit'' might have gone down those few years but the National debt went up.....from 5.8 trillion to 11.9 trillion under president bush's fiscal 8 years.

emergency spending was put OUTSIDE of the budget, and the Iraq war and afghan war were put OUTSIDE of the budget, AND of course the SS surplus monies were put INSIDE the budget, making the Deficit APPEAR like it was going down or less than the actual deficit was.....

that kind of crap, outside of the afghan war and iraq war, is still going on now....(the afghan war and iraq war were put INSIDE the obama budget so this is affecting deficits with him) but the SS surplus is still making our budget deficits appear smaller...while adding boocoos to the national debt.

the gatewaypundit is LYING TO YOU.
 
They talk about deficits and jobs and Clinton's "surplus"

They compare all of this, but never mention what 9-11 did to us
Enron (Sarbanes Oxley)
4 major Hurricanes in 05, shuts down parts of Florida for months
2 including Katrina in 06

9-11 brought 2 wars
The left act like these 2 wars are GWB fault
Should we have added a tax to pay for them? I say yes now, but a VAT tax that went away the minute the war(s) ended, Like Iraq is now
I did not think so then for good reasons

The deficit did not become a problem until Obama went to spending trillions in months instead of trillions in years
We went from 162 billion of breaking even in 2007 (the last GOP budget) to where we are now
And yes lost revenue is part of it
just as it was for GWB after 9-11-2001

You get a few facts right but your analysis of what they mean leaves something to be desired.
 
Simply NOT TRUE that we were only 162 billion from breaking even in 2007....

we added $500 BILLION/a half a trillion, to the National Debt in fiscal 2007

Date Debt Held by the Public Intragovernmental Holdings

Total Public Debt Outstanding
09/29/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23

09/29/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
Government - Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

why
why
why
why
Your looking at total with interest and not for the year
interest added
we are trying to balance the budget, then work on the total deficit

In 2004 the federal budget deficit was 412 billion dollars. In 2005 it dropped to 318 billion dollars. In 2006 the deficit dipped to 248 billion dollars. And, in 2007 it fell below 200 billion to 162 billion dollars. During the Bush years the average unemployment rate was 5.2 percent, the economy saw the strongest productivity growth in four decades and there was robust GDP growth.

After an unheard of record deficit last year of $1.4 Trillion the economy is on track to experience a $1.47 Trillion deficit this year.
Obama July Deficit of $167 Billion Tops Bush Deficit For Entire Year of 2007 | The Gateway Pundit
the so called ''budget deficit'' might have gone down those few years but the National debt went up.....from 5.8 trillion to 11.9 trillion under president bush's fiscal 8 years.

emergency spending was put OUTSIDE of the budget, and the Iraq war and afghan war were put OUTSIDE of the budget, AND of course the SS surplus monies were put INSIDE the budget, making the Deficit APPEAR like it was going down or less than the actual deficit was.....

that kind of crap, outside of the afghan war and iraq war, is still going on now....(the afghan war and iraq war were put INSIDE the obama budget so this is affecting deficits with him) but the SS surplus is still making our budget deficits appear smaller...while adding boocoos to the national debt.

the gatewaypundit is LYING TO YOU.

No one is lying here ok?
If you want to add the interest to his deficit over that 8 years
than we will do the same for Clinton and Obama
ok?

and as far as the wars being off of budget, please, please do not think foe one minute that we as going to spend one dime of tax payers wealth and it not be accounted for
The Bush Deficit, the Clinton Surplus and TARP by Gregory Hilton | The DC World Affairs Blog
The above graph does include spending on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush years. While Bush did fund the wars through emergency supplementals (not the regular budget process), that spending did not simply vanish. It is of course included in the numbers above.
 
They talk about deficits and jobs and Clinton's "surplus"

They compare all of this, but never mention what 9-11 did to us
Enron (Sarbanes Oxley)
4 major Hurricanes in 05, shuts down parts of Florida for months
2 including Katrina in 06

9-11 brought 2 wars
The left act like these 2 wars are GWB fault
Should we have added a tax to pay for them? I say yes now, but a VAT tax that went away the minute the war(s) ended, Like Iraq is now
I did not think so then for good reasons

The deficit did not become a problem until Obama went to spending trillions in months instead of trillions in years
We went from 162 billion of breaking even in 2007 (the last GOP budget) to where we are now
And yes lost revenue is part of it
just as it was for GWB after 9-11-2001

You get a few facts right but your analysis of what they mean leaves something to be desired.

what do you mean?
 
why
why
why
why
Your looking at total with interest and not for the year
interest added
we are trying to balance the budget, then work on the total deficit

In 2004 the federal budget deficit was 412 billion dollars. In 2005 it dropped to 318 billion dollars. In 2006 the deficit dipped to 248 billion dollars. And, in 2007 it fell below 200 billion to 162 billion dollars. During the Bush years the average unemployment rate was 5.2 percent, the economy saw the strongest productivity growth in four decades and there was robust GDP growth.

After an unheard of record deficit last year of $1.4 Trillion the economy is on track to experience a $1.47 Trillion deficit this year.
Obama July Deficit of $167 Billion Tops Bush Deficit For Entire Year of 2007 | The Gateway Pundit
the so called ''budget deficit'' might have gone down those few years but the National debt went up.....from 5.8 trillion to 11.9 trillion under president bush's fiscal 8 years.

emergency spending was put OUTSIDE of the budget, and the Iraq war and afghan war were put OUTSIDE of the budget, AND of course the SS surplus monies were put INSIDE the budget, making the Deficit APPEAR like it was going down or less than the actual deficit was.....

that kind of crap, outside of the afghan war and iraq war, is still going on now....(the afghan war and iraq war were put INSIDE the obama budget so this is affecting deficits with him) but the SS surplus is still making our budget deficits appear smaller...while adding boocoos to the national debt.

the gatewaypundit is LYING TO YOU.

No one is lying here ok?
If you want to add the interest to his deficit over that 8 years
than we will do the same for Clinton and Obama
ok?

and as far as the wars being off of budget, please, please do not think foe one minute that we as going to spend one dime of tax payers wealth and it not be accounted for
The Bush Deficit, the Clinton Surplus and TARP by Gregory Hilton | The DC World Affairs Blog
The above graph does include spending on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush years. While Bush did fund the wars through emergency supplementals (not the regular budget process), that spending did not simply vanish. It is of course included in the numbers above.
jrk....if it was included in the deficit on that chart, then why does the chart only list 160 + billion in deficits while the national debt that year rose by $500 billion?

i never said the war debt just disappeared....it didn't, it shows up in the amounts added to the national debt is my understanding? interest payments ARE in the budget, as they should be, aren't they? Why would they be separated out???
 
the so called ''budget deficit'' might have gone down those few years but the National debt went up.....from 5.8 trillion to 11.9 trillion under president bush's fiscal 8 years.

emergency spending was put OUTSIDE of the budget, and the Iraq war and afghan war were put OUTSIDE of the budget, AND of course the SS surplus monies were put INSIDE the budget, making the Deficit APPEAR like it was going down or less than the actual deficit was.....

that kind of crap, outside of the afghan war and iraq war, is still going on now....(the afghan war and iraq war were put INSIDE the obama budget so this is affecting deficits with him) but the SS surplus is still making our budget deficits appear smaller...while adding boocoos to the national debt.

the gatewaypundit is LYING TO YOU.

No one is lying here ok?
If you want to add the interest to his deficit over that 8 years
than we will do the same for Clinton and Obama
ok?

and as far as the wars being off of budget, please, please do not think foe one minute that we as going to spend one dime of tax payers wealth and it not be accounted for
The Bush Deficit, the Clinton Surplus and TARP by Gregory Hilton | The DC World Affairs Blog
The above graph does include spending on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush years. While Bush did fund the wars through emergency supplementals (not the regular budget process), that spending did not simply vanish. It is of course included in the numbers above.
jrk....if it was included in the deficit on that chart, then why does the chart only list 160 + billion in deficits while the national debt that year rose by $500 billion?

i never said the war debt just disappeared....it didn't, it shows up in the amounts added to the national debt is my understanding? interest payments ARE in the budget, as they should be, aren't they? Why would they be separated out???

to start with you have to balance the budget before you can pay down the debt

If we grade the performance of our president now or past on the interest on debt he inherited then how could you ask the question if we were within 162 billion of balancing the budget in 07, how can we get to 1.4 trillion in 09?
Those are true performance numbers

of course we have lot less revenue in 2009 also (vs 07), but the Iraq war was all but over also

see what I am saying?

Yes the interest is very crucial, but it is really small (right now) as far as the % goes
he amount of cash added is not
its killing us
BUT we have to balance the budget first, and then start chipping at the debt
Thats the way I see it any way

When the yearly deficit is 150 billion we can mange that
we could look from there to ways we could balance and then begin chipping away at the debt
when it is 1.5 trillion per year the wheels have come off

Look its not personal to me.
GWB made some mistakes. Mistakes that looking back no-one thought Iraq would last until 08
His Medicare bill needed funding. No-one could see the negative impact that 9-11 did as well as the negative impact we did to our selves
 

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