Why "Fast and Furious" will become another Republican Debacle

That's why all the documents should come out. Obama could fry Bush & Cheney then cruise to re-election! :D
 
The Republican Party has become the party of "Ah Ha". They think they have a new scheme. A new way to attack the president. To avoid responsibility. The problem with this current debacle is they struck "too soon".

If this had happened, say two weeks before the election, it might have had a chance to actually cause damage to the first African American Attorney General and the first African American President, but with this much time, people will learn the truth. And truth has proven to be the deadly enemy to this current Republican Party.

So forget the fact that Bush used Executive Privilege 6 times while Obama has used it this once. And what did Bush use it for? Things like protecting whoever outed a covert CIA agent, something people other than Republicans think of as "treason".

Forget the fact this program was "officially started" in 2006.

Forget the fact the agent killed wasn't killed with one of these guns.

Forget the fact Holder ordered this program stopped when he found out about it.

Just this simple one thing, when pointed out to thinking Americans, will prove this to be the scheme it is.

When an operation, such as this is put into effect, it takes years of planning. It's no accident is was started in 2006. You know something like this was going on for years. Because it takes years to train people. To make contacts. To put the operation in place. To acquire materials and knowledge. To gather intel. This entire operation began in an area of the country hostile to Obama with people who are Republicans to the core.

Holder didn't enter office with this huge operation already planned out and put in place on day one. It's ludicrous.

Look at the operation that took out Bin Laden after Republicans let him go and stopped looking for him. And it was a very small operation involving a limited number of people. And how long did they plan before the operation went into effect? How much training was involved? How much intel was acquired?

When the size and scope of "Operation Fast and Furious" is revealed and when it started and when Eric Holder took office, it will become apparent this is another attack on Obama by way of Holder. Now for these right wingers, it doesn't matter. They just don't care about truth. I believe my all time favorite post here was when some right winger said Iraq was Obama's fault. That we never should have invaded. This is the same kind of thing.

wow, you will defend any despicable thing about this administration..
and please post the link for the bolded
 
Guess the left has no problem with a dead Border Patrol Agent and who cares about all those dead Mexicans. Hell. The're Mexicans after all.

If a Rep AG and DOJ had done this the left would be screaming bloody murder. Hell. They's be hanging bush in effigy.

Holder and his DOJ are responsible but they are Dems so what the hey.

One would think that any honest person would like to know that someone is held responsible for the death of a Border Patrol Agent.

Guess it ain't that important to the left.

Some 4000 Americans and over 100K Iraqis died in the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Not one of you folks gave 2 shits about that.

Except to hate on Arabs.

When getting one's ass handed to them, best to launch non-sequitur red herrings.

LOL
 
If Holder HIMSELF shot a bunch of people, it still wouldn't be enough for the left to admit this guy is a piece of shit and should not hold the office. It's astounding how much their heads are up the establishment's ass.
 
Guess the left has no problem with a dead Border Patrol Agent and who cares about all those dead Mexicans. Hell. The're Mexicans after all.

If a Rep AG and DOJ had done this the left would be screaming bloody murder. Hell. They's be hanging bush in effigy.

Holder and his DOJ are responsible but they are Dems so what the hey.

One would think that any honest person would like to know that someone is held responsible for the death of a Border Patrol Agent.

Guess it ain't that important to the left.

Some 4000 Americans and over 100K Iraqis died in the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Not one of you folks gave 2 shits about that.

Except to hate on Arabs.

When getting one's ass handed to them, best to launch non-sequitur red herrings.

LOL

You have any idea what that means?
 
The Republican Party has become the party of "Ah Ha". They think they have a new scheme. A new way to attack the president. To avoid responsibility. The problem with this current debacle is they struck "too soon".

If this had happened, say two weeks before the election, it might have had a chance to actually cause damage to the first African American Attorney General and the first African American President, but with this much time, people will learn the truth. And truth has proven to be the deadly enemy to this current Republican Party.

So forget the fact that Bush used Executive Privilege 6 times while Obama has used it this once. And what did Bush use it for? Things like protecting whoever outed a covert CIA agent, something people other than Republicans think of as "treason".

Forget the fact this program was "officially started" in 2006.

Forget the fact the agent killed wasn't killed with one of these guns.

Forget the fact Holder ordered this program stopped when he found out about it.

Just this simple one thing, when pointed out to thinking Americans, will prove this to be the scheme it is.

When an operation, such as this is put into effect, it takes years of planning. It's no accident is was started in 2006. You know something like this was going on for years. Because it takes years to train people. To make contacts. To put the operation in place. To acquire materials and knowledge. To gather intel. This entire operation began in an area of the country hostile to Obama with people who are Republicans to the core.

Holder didn't enter office with this huge operation already planned out and put in place on day one. It's ludicrous.

Look at the operation that took out Bin Laden after Republicans let him go and stopped looking for him. And it was a very small operation involving a limited number of people. And how long did they plan before the operation went into effect? How much training was involved? How much intel was acquired?

When the size and scope of "Operation Fast and Furious" is revealed and when it started and when Eric Holder took office, it will become apparent this is another attack on Obama by way of Holder. Now for these right wingers, it doesn't matter. They just don't care about truth. I believe my all time favorite post here was when some right winger said Iraq was Obama's fault. That we never should have invaded. This is the same kind of thing.

hahahahaha

I have nothing else, it will do no good. Obama and Holder are black, therefore they are special. :cuckoo:

Well there is that.

There is also the fact that they are Democrats.

Republicans are using very serious and extreme measures to further partisan politics.

And this is not the first time. They also seem to be doing it on a regular basis.


Extreme?
The committee has documents that prove that Holder has lied to them twice. Even the Dem's were upset about this last year. Now that it is an election year they have changed their tune.
Holder has retracted his statements twice, he is protecting someone over this mess.
 
Guess the left has no problem with a dead Border Patrol Agent and who cares about all those dead Mexicans. Hell. The're Mexicans after all.

If a Rep AG and DOJ had done this the left would be screaming bloody murder. Hell. They's be hanging bush in effigy.

Holder and his DOJ are responsible but they are Dems so what the hey.

One would think that any honest person would like to know that someone is held responsible for the death of a Border Patrol Agent.

Guess it ain't that important to the left.

Some 4000 Americans and over 100K Iraqis died in the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Not one of you folks gave 2 shits about that.

Except to hate on Arabs.

Deflect much there S?

Just what the hell does Iraq have to do with Holder, his DOJ, Fast & Furious and a dead American Border Patrol Agent?

As for the illegal invasion of Iraq?? Think you need to bone up on your history there S. Congressional approval all the way.

As for not giving 2 shits sounds like thats all you give for that dead Border Agent.
 
The Republican Party has become the party of "Ah Ha". They think they have a new scheme. A new way to attack the president. To avoid responsibility. The problem with this current debacle is they struck "too soon".

If this had happened, say two weeks before the election, it might have had a chance to actually cause damage to the first African American Attorney General and the first African American President, but with this much time, people will learn the truth. And truth has proven to be the deadly enemy to this current Republican Party.

So forget the fact that Bush used Executive Privilege 6 times while Obama has used it this once. And what did Bush use it for? Things like protecting whoever outed a covert CIA agent, something people other than Republicans think of as "treason".

Forget the fact this program was "officially started" in 2006.

Forget the fact the agent killed wasn't killed with one of these guns.

Forget the fact Holder ordered this program stopped when he found out about it.

Just this simple one thing, when pointed out to thinking Americans, will prove this to be the scheme it is.

When an operation, such as this is put into effect, it takes years of planning. It's no accident is was started in 2006. You know something like this was going on for years. Because it takes years to train people. To make contacts. To put the operation in place. To acquire materials and knowledge. To gather intel. This entire operation began in an area of the country hostile to Obama with people who are Republicans to the core.

Holder didn't enter office with this huge operation already planned out and put in place on day one. It's ludicrous.

Look at the operation that took out Bin Laden after Republicans let him go and stopped looking for him. And it was a very small operation involving a limited number of people. And how long did they plan before the operation went into effect? How much training was involved? How much intel was acquired?

When the size and scope of "Operation Fast and Furious" is revealed and when it started and when Eric Holder took office, it will become apparent this is another attack on Obama by way of Holder. Now for these right wingers, it doesn't matter. They just don't care about truth. I believe my all time favorite post here was when some right winger said Iraq was Obama's fault. That we never should have invaded. This is the same kind of thing.

You know, RDerp, it's sometimes amazing how many blatant falsehoods you can squeeze into a single post. 5 minutes with Google and you'd know just how wrong you are, but then again I think you already know, you just don't give a shit about the truth.

Which statemetns are factually wrong? Specifically.

1. Forget the fact this program was "officially started" in 2006. F & F was started in 2009...

2. Forget the fact the agent killed wasn't killed with one of these guns. Yes, he was...

3. Forget the fact Holder ordered this program stopped when he found out about it. No, he didn't...

Forgetting the facts seems to be the liberal way, huh??
 
hahahahaha

I have nothing else, it will do no good. Obama and Holder are black, therefore they are special. :cuckoo:

Well there is that.

There is also the fact that they are Democrats.

Republicans are using very serious and extreme measures to further partisan politics.

And this is not the first time. They also seem to be doing it on a regular basis.


Extreme?
The committee has documents that prove that Holder has lied to them twice. Even the Dem's were upset about this last year. Now that it is an election year they have changed their tune.
Holder has retracted his statements twice, he is protecting someone over this mess.

No they don't.

What they have are "gotchas" and out of context messaging in communications.

He's been called to testify 9 times. That's some kind of record.

The 9/11 commission...which wrapped up in under a year, called people from Clinton's and Bush's administration, even though 9/11 occurred 8 months after Clinton was out of office. Add in that Cheney was allowed to testify in private and didn't swear to anything. Same with Bush.

Add in..the Bush administration was allowed to check the report before it went out to the public and edited it. Notably parts that implicated the Saudis.

THAT represented the BIGGEST security debacle in American history..and it wasn't nearly as "intensive".

And by "intensive", I mean extremely partisan.
 
Guess the left has no problem with a dead Border Patrol Agent and who cares about all those dead Mexicans. Hell. The're Mexicans after all.

If a Rep AG and DOJ had done this the left would be screaming bloody murder. Hell. They's be hanging bush in effigy.

Holder and his DOJ are responsible but they are Dems so what the hey.

One would think that any honest person would like to know that someone is held responsible for the death of a Border Patrol Agent.

Guess it ain't that important to the left.

Some 4000 Americans and over 100K Iraqis died in the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Not one of you folks gave 2 shits about that.

Except to hate on Arabs.

Deflect much there S?

What... You think it's easy to lickwash the ballsack of Obama and Holder these days?


LOL
 
The administration has been caught with their pants down on a program designed to sway public opinion on the availability of guns in the US, the loose sales practices of those bad gun dealers, and thus, the rights afforded in the 2nd Amendment.

Barack Milhouse Obama is on record as being a gun hater and feels that citizens should not be allowed to own firearms; legally of course. His hometown leads the world in firearms death and apparently nothing can be done about it.
 
The administration has been caught with their pants down on a program designed to sway public opinion on the availability of guns in the US, the loose sales practices of those bad gun dealers, and thus, the rights afforded in the 2nd Amendment.

It was a program started by George W. Bush. Why weren't any Bushies called in by Issa, eh?

Barack Milhouse Obama is on record as being a gun hater and feels that citizens should not be allowed to own firearms; legally of course. His hometown leads the world in firearms death and apparently nothing can be done about it.

Then it should be easy for you to go over all the legislation put up by the Obama administration to restrict or curtail gun "rights".

Go.

Complete with links.
 
As an American I believe I am entitled to the truth, no matter who it brings down with it. A federal agent died for absolutely nothing, probably a second death is involved.

It matters not to me what color skin any of them have. If there is nothing to hide, why are they hiding it?? Remember Holder admitted Bush had nothing to do with Fast & Furious or was he lying then, too.

No one is above the Law, even the first black President and AG, sorry if you think differently.

Predictably, Liberals are seeking to inject the race into the debate. Get used to it. Cries of racism and specious claims of racism is all they got going into November. In the case of Holder, they can't focus on his actions and character without bringing race into the equation.
 
The Republican Party has become the party of "Ah Ha". They think they have a new scheme. A new way to attack the president. To avoid responsibility. The problem with this current debacle is they struck "too soon".

If this had happened, say two weeks before the election, it might have had a chance to actually cause damage to the first African American Attorney General and the first African American President, but with this much time, people will learn the truth. And truth has proven to be the deadly enemy to this current Republican Party.

So forget the fact that Bush used Executive Privilege 6 times while Obama has used it this once. And what did Bush use it for? Things like protecting whoever outed a covert CIA agent, something people other than Republicans think of as "treason".

Forget the fact this program was "officially started" in 2006.

Forget the fact the agent killed wasn't killed with one of these guns.

Forget the fact Holder ordered this program stopped when he found out about it.

Just this simple one thing, when pointed out to thinking Americans, will prove this to be the scheme it is.

When an operation, such as this is put into effect, it takes years of planning. It's no accident is was started in 2006. You know something like this was going on for years. Because it takes years to train people. To make contacts. To put the operation in place. To acquire materials and knowledge. To gather intel. This entire operation began in an area of the country hostile to Obama with people who are Republicans to the core.

Holder didn't enter office with this huge operation already planned out and put in place on day one. It's ludicrous.

Look at the operation that took out Bin Laden after Republicans let him go and stopped looking for him. And it was a very small operation involving a limited number of people. And how long did they plan before the operation went into effect? How much training was involved? How much intel was acquired?

When the size and scope of "Operation Fast and Furious" is revealed and when it started and when Eric Holder took office, it will become apparent this is another attack on Obama by way of Holder. Now for these right wingers, it doesn't matter. They just don't care about truth. I believe my all time favorite post here was when some right winger said Iraq was Obama's fault. That we never should have invaded. This is the same kind of thing.

You may have already covered these points but other questions the rw's don't want to consider -

Issa has never questioned the Phoenix ATF office who ran the operation or the former
head of the ATF, who told committee investigators that he never informed Justice Department higher-ups of the operation because he didn’t know about it. The only documentation he has asked for or examined is from February 2011 to present, a full TWO MONTHS AFTER Agent Terry was killed (the same documentation which is part of the official investigation and can't be released).

Since he has no interest in pertinent documents, how is it possible that the 147+ THOUSAND DOCUMENTS and the more than ONE MILLION EMAILS do not cover the info corrupt Issa wants.
 
The facts get in the way for the left ....still lmao @ title and word debacle, why because theres massive criminal activity from this administration? Yeah makes sense :lol:
 
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