Why faith?

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    Why is faith promoted in religion? For the nonbeliever, it is because there is no God. For those of faith, what say you?
     
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    Why is faith promoted?
    they have no proof, all they have is faith.

    There is no proof of the existence of God, heaven or hell.
     
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    Proof or evidence? I think you will find that we can prove precious little.
     
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    Speak for yourself earthling.
     
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    Faith associated with religion is belief in something not known by natural reason.
     
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    I would put it another way. If there is an all knowing God, then for that God to relate to finite beings, at some point faith must be exercised in that God due to the limited comprehension of those finite beings.

    As I read Biblical examples of a lack of faith, something strikes me. We have examples of men and women having complete faith that God exists, but still losing faith in him. We see this in the example of Adam and Eve who walked and talked with God in the garden, yet they lost faith anyhow and partook of the apple. We see this in the example of the children of Israel who see God split oceans in two and see God send manna from heaven for them to eat, yet they lose faith and build a golden calf to worship in his stead.

    If these stories have any truth in them, then it does not benefit God in any way to prove that he exists. That is because having faith in someone is far different than believing that they exist.
     
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    That's true... when the story is unprovable, like Origins, God & The Afterlife are, faith is all you've got.
     
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    You mean that if an omnipotent God were to actually walk among us turning water in to wine and raising the dead and shit, all featured in living color on CNN, FAUX and YouTube, you'd still need faith?

    If I ever meet a being who acts in power like a god, I'll most likely treat him like a god, and it will be an easy decision.
     
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    There are different levels of faith. A person can have faith God exists, but lose faith in trusting God to keep his promise.
     
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    God seems only interested in those that trust him. After all, whether you don't trust him or do not think he exists, you will act just the same towards him either way.
     

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