Why Exactly Does Romney Want Fewer Firefighters, Police and Teachers?

Romney did indeed call for cuts to firefighters, cops, and teachers. Then when he was called on it, he said the federal government doesn't pay for firefighters, cops, and teachers.

So...is he saying he was making a moot argument when he called for those cuts? He's really digging a hole for himself.

And he's wrong. The federal government provides billions of dollars a year in grant money to pay for the hiring, training, and equipping of firefighters, cops, and teachers.

So before you make a fool of yourself and plant your flag on a false premise like so many others have done these past few days, know the facts.


Debate the actual issue instead of denying it even exists.

Should we, or should we not, cut the federal funding of firefighers, cops, and teachers?

Before you answer, you should know that the great conservative hero, Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin, does not believe we should. He disagrees with Romney on this point.

Carry on!

Why should we pay for more public workers then we need?
 
A better question would be...why whenever fiscal sanity is suggested...do progressives immediately accuse whoever wants to slow down their out of control spending of either "draconian" cuts or of wanting to push grandma off a cliff?
 
We've increased the teacher to student ratio and student performance has declined.

Seems to me we don't need more teachers.
 
We've increased the teacher to student ratio and student performance has declined.

Seems to me we don't need more teachers.

Are you guys being deliberately obtuse?

Romney said we need to CUT the number of firefighters, cops, and teachers.

Do we?
 
Scott Walker took care specifically not to include firefighters, cops, and teachers in his attacks on public employees.

Romney specifically targeted firefighters, cops, and teachers for cuts.

Which one is right?
 
We've increased the teacher to student ratio and student performance has declined.

Seems to me we don't need more teachers.

Are you guys being deliberately obtuse?

Romney said we need to CUT the number of firefighters, cops, and teachers.

Do we?

Possibly. There may be some localities where the crime and number of fires don't justify the current numbers of employees.
 
He doesn't. He just has the unfortunate habit of sticking his foot in his mouth from uncomfortable angles.
 
Romney did indeed call for cuts to firefighters, cops, and teachers. Then when he was called on it, he said the federal government doesn't pay for firefighters, cops, and teachers.

So...is he saying he was making a moot argument when he called for those cuts? He's really digging a hole for himself.

And he's wrong. The federal government provides billions of dollars a year in grant money to pay for the hiring, training, and equipping of firefighters, cops, and teachers.

So before you make a fool of yourself and plant your flag on a false premise like so many others have done these past few days, know the facts.


Debate the actual issue instead of denying it even exists.

Should we, or should we not, cut the federal funding of firefighers, cops, and teachers?

Before you answer, you should know that the great conservative hero, Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin, does not believe we should. He disagrees with Romney on this point.

Carry on!

Why should we pay for more public workers then we need?

Are you thinking society is safe enough? Are you thinking that emergency response is robust enough? Are you thinking that we have enough teachers?

We should determine what type of society we want and basically fund it.

It's just a thought I've recently had but what we should do is have a map of the US and a bunch of concentric circles around cities. In the first circle, response times to 911 calls will be 0-3 minutes. In the next circle, 3-10 minutes. In the next outside circle 10-20 minutes and so on. Have another for Teacher/Student ratios although you can't do that with the concentric circle model. Tell people who live at 999 1st Avenue that this is the deal, you get 911 calls in X amount of time and your TSR will be 48-1 or whatever. If those who live at 999 1st Avenue are not happy with either of those, they can move to a better place, they can send their kids to private schools, or work within the electoral system for more funding for public servants.

But "needs" are to be determined from what I see.
 
We've increased the teacher to student ratio and student performance has declined.

Seems to me we don't need more teachers.

Are you guys being deliberately obtuse?

Romney said we need to CUT the number of firefighters, cops, and teachers.

Do we?

Possibly. There may be some localities where the crime and number of fires don't justify the current numbers of employees.

Romney did not cite any evidence of such.
 
Why should we pay for more public workers then we need?

Do we have more firefighters, cops, and teachers than we need? Because that is exactly who Romney specifically targeted.

Not that Romney was thinking about the point this deeply when he made it, but it's not clear that we need more cops and firefighters. Crime is at historic lows and modern building technologies mean fire is much less of a risk than it used to be.
 
so all of us WORKING are suppose to fund the kind of society "others" want and take care of those who don't want to work and so on.

I don't know why I bother working anymore.
 
It's part and parcel with the "Norquist Doctrine".

"I'm not in favor of abolishing the government. I just want to shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."
Grover Norquist

This. Forget any argument you could make on the merits about the issue. Romney wasn't considering them. This is what was at the forefront of his mind.
 
Bob Cesca: Why Exactly Does Romney Want Fewer Firefighters, Police and Teachers?


This is the Republican leadership agenda. Bleed the government to death, "drown it in the bathtub" and hand everything over to KBR, Monsanto and Walmart.

Meanwhile, Republican voters don't even really understand what their leaders are up to. While they crap on the notion of "socialism," most Republican voters like the idea of a reliable police force and firefighters -- we all simply expect these services to be free and available, even self-identified anti-government conservatives.


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He never said he wanted few firefighter, police and teachers, dumb fuck.
You need Huffingtonpost.com to explain things to you in their point-of-view?
How about some independent thinking there, assbrain....
 
Bob Cesca: Why Exactly Does Romney Want Fewer Firefighters, Police and Teachers?


This is the Republican leadership agenda. Bleed the government to death, "drown it in the bathtub" and hand everything over to KBR, Monsanto and Walmart.

Meanwhile, Republican voters don't even really understand what their leaders are up to. While they crap on the notion of "socialism," most Republican voters like the idea of a reliable police force and firefighters -- we all simply expect these services to be free and available, even self-identified anti-government conservatives.


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When is that egress date again, you huffo puffo parrot??
 

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