Why Dont We Ban MSG?

JimBowie1958

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It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.
so there were no obese people before msg?
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.
so there were no obese people before msg?

Where does it say that?
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.
They used to sell it in the seasoning aisle way more than thirty years ago--they called it Accent. Of course people eat more of a food when it's got MSG in it--it TASTES BETTER. Good OP though; I knew it caused headaches, but I never knew this stuff about it.
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.
so there were no obese people before msg?

Where does it say that?
jimblowme is implying that msg is the only cause for obesity .
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.

You can actually subtract MSG from you life without the government banning it.

I try to stay away from buying junk foods, and process foods and never eat out hardly, so I have control over what I eat.

Eat fresh fruits, veggies, nuts ( no not the sexual one ), fish daily and you will see a massive difference in your weight, and how you feel.
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.
They used to sell it in the seasoning aisle way more than thirty years ago--they called it Accent. Of course people eat more of a food when it's got MSG in it--it TASTES BETTER. Good OP though; I knew it caused headaches, but I never knew this stuff about it.
thank you my mom used that a lot ...
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.
so there were no obese people before msg?

Where does it say that?
jimblowme is implying that msg is the only cause for obesity .

I don't see where he makes that case --- he says we have a corresponding sky-rocketing [sic] rate of diabetes and obesity.

I make the same case (on obesity) about wheat. It doesn't mean any one of them are a sole source.
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.

You can actually subtract MSG from you life without the government banning it.

I try to stay away from buying junk foods, and process foods and never eat out hardly, so I have control over what I eat.

Eat fresh fruits, veggies, nuts ( no not the sexual one ), fish daily and you will see a massive difference in your weight, and how you feel.
you can even control your msg and other nasty's while eating out by the choices you make.
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.
so there were no obese people before msg?

Where does it say that?
jimblowme is implying that msg is the only cause for obesity .

I don't see where he makes that case --- he says we have a corresponding sky-rocketing [sic] rate of diabetes and obesity.

I make the same case (on obesity) about wheat. It doesn't mean any one of them are a sole source.
that my point if you are going to mention one of the mention them all.
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.

You can actually subtract MSG from you life without the government banning it.

I try to stay away from buying junk foods, and process foods and never eat out hardly, so I have control over what I eat.

Eat fresh fruits, veggies, nuts ( no not the sexual one ), fish daily and you will see a massive difference in your weight, and how you feel.
you can even control your msg and other nasty's while eating out by the choices you make.

I actually do not enjoy eating out for some reason.

I prefer home cooked meals and sitting and conversing with friends at my place or their place. It is just me, and it is true you can control your diet while eating out, but for me it is preference and nothing more.
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.
so there were no obese people before msg?

Where does it say that?
jimblowme is implying that msg is the only cause for obesity .

I don't see where he makes that case --- he says we have a corresponding sky-rocketing [sic] rate of diabetes and obesity.

I make the same case (on obesity) about wheat. It doesn't mean any one of them are a sole source.
that my point if you are going to mention one of the mention them all.


I don't think it's necessary to "mention them all" if you have a point to make about a single ingredient. That's silly -- if we were to do that nothing could ever be mentioned.
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.

You can actually subtract MSG from you life without the government banning it.

I try to stay away from buying junk foods, and process foods and never eat out hardly, so I have control over what I eat.

Eat fresh fruits, veggies, nuts ( no not the sexual one ), fish daily and you will see a massive difference in your weight, and how you feel.
you can even control your msg and other nasty's while eating out by the choices you make.

Well no, you really can't. Restaurants don't come with ingredient labels like foods do, and even those are inadequate.
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.


MSG is on the GRAS list -- the first step would be taking it off that list. That's what FDA did with trans fats, and the Randbots on this site (and elsewhere I have no doubt) absolutely pissed themselves wailing about Big Gummint even if they never gave trans fats a thought before.

All it means is that the food processor would have to demonstrate that the ingredient is safe before using it. God forbid public health should ever stand in the way of the Holy Profit...
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.

You can actually subtract MSG from you life without the government banning it.

I try to stay away from buying junk foods, and process foods and never eat out hardly, so I have control over what I eat.

Eat fresh fruits, veggies, nuts ( no not the sexual one ), fish daily and you will see a massive difference in your weight, and how you feel.
you can even control your msg and other nasty's while eating out by the choices you make.

I actually do not enjoy eating out for some reason.

I prefer home cooked meals and sitting and conversing with friends at my place or their place. It is just me, and it is true you can control your diet while eating out, but for me it is preference and nothing more.
I do most all the cooking at home so eating out gives me a break.
never been able to break my addiction to steak fries though.
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.

You can actually subtract MSG from you life without the government banning it.

I try to stay away from buying junk foods, and process foods and never eat out hardly, so I have control over what I eat.

Eat fresh fruits, veggies, nuts ( no not the sexual one ), fish daily and you will see a massive difference in your weight, and how you feel.
you can even control your msg and other nasty's while eating out by the choices you make.

Well no, you really can't. Restaurants don't come with ingredient labels like foods do, and even those are inadequate.
:happy-1:
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.

Probably because the source is self referential. Your article cites spofamerica.com. A website by John Erb. With the article citing the same guy who owns the website.
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.

Probably because the source is self referential. Your article cites spofamerica.com. A website by John Erb. With the article citing the same guy who owns the website.
conflict of interest?
 
It has only been in the last 30 years or so that MSG became such a widely used additive on our foods and we have a corresponding sky-rocketing rate of Type 2 Diabetes and obesity.

So why dont we just ban MSG from foods?

Proof MSG Causes Obesity In Experimental Studies

The data is in and it is staggering: Scientists have been using the common food additive Monosodium Glutamate to create fat rats and mice to experiment on. In hundreds of studies produced worldwide over the last thirty years, Monosodium Glutamate has been injected under the skin of day old mice and rats to produce obese rats and mice with a predisposition for diabetes.

Just as the occurrence of obesity and diabetes has risen to record levels, so too has the public's ingestion of MSG. MSG, also found in ingredients such as Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein and Autolyzed Yeast Extract, is being added to a huge selection of restaurant food and processed food found in supermarkets.
According to the Glutamate Association, a government Lobby group sponsored by many of the companies that use or produce MSG in its various forms, the reason that it is added to food is simple:

"Studies have found that adding MSG to certain foods, such as soup and mashed potatoes, has been successful in increasing the food intake in institutionalized elderly populations.

John Erb, author of the book The Slow Poisoning of America believes that MSG is the food industry's equivalent to Nicotine. "Studies have shown that people who eat food laced with MSG eat more of it, and faster than food that does not have this additive. If it makes the elderly eat more, what is it doing to our nation's children?

Glutamate is an amino acid that can excite almost every major organ in the body, especially the brain. It occurs naturally in milligram amounts in some harvested foods. Now, however, a person can get as much as a teaspoonful a day. John Erb finds this especially disparaging considering in some countries of the world one tablespoon of MSG is given to dogs to make them go into epileptic convulsions until they die.

"When ingested by human test subjects MSG directly affects the Pancreas stimulating it to triple its standard output of insulin output. This unnatural amount of insulin finds the sugar in the blood and converts it to fat. A few hours after you eat MSG the excess insulin the MSG triggers reduces your blood sugar level so much that you become tired and even hungry again. In animal test subjects this excess insulin leads to hyperinsulinemia: the chronic overproduction of insulin. The pancreas becomes so out of control that the body starts producing killer T cells to shut it down. Is it any wonder why diabetes, obesity and lethargy in our youths are at an all time high? Junk foods, processed foods, even cafeteria foods are now laced with large amounts of exitotoxic glutamates.

Probably because the source is self referential. Your article cites spofamerica.com. A website by John Erb. With the article citing the same guy who owns the website.
conflict of interest?

Dunno. Would you consider the copy of an ad telling you how awesome its product is to meet the standards of science?
 

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