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why does the left unquestionably trust government?
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It saves them having to think for themselves. It's very sad.
It's a basic view that profit is bad and exploitative. Therefore non profits are inherently good, as is government, while for profits are inherently bad. We see this all the time in health care discussions where insurance companies get slammed while competing gov't entitites are lauded.
The truth is that non profits are every bit as greedy, if not more, than for profits, and less accountable. And government is simply unaccountable.
The truth is that non profits are every bit as greedy, if not more, than for profits, and less accountable. And government is simply unaccountable.
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its not all of those on the left. Anarchists certainly do not support any government.
The subset you need to look at is the progressive statist. This person believes that a government, controlled by the "right" people, can be used to create an equal society. To them the best method for this is the destruction of federalism, the supremacy of the federal government, and goverment dependency of a majority of the population.
The end goal is creation of a class large enough to win any election, that is dependent upon the government for its basic needs.
The subset you need to look at is the progressive statist. This person believes that a government, controlled by the "right" people, can be used to create an equal society. To them the best method for this is the destruction of federalism, the supremacy of the federal government, and goverment dependency of a majority of the population.
The end goal is creation of a class large enough to win any election, that is dependent upon the government for its basic needs.
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that is not what you were saying when Bush was in office
what is one thing that is not in the enumerated powers that the federal government has done well? I can't think of anything.
because it's natural to trust the hand that feeds you.
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that is not what you were saying when Bush was in office
proof?
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that is not what you were saying when Bush was in office
proof?
So this 'you' that TruthMocker referred to in her post.... that's you? I can never tell with her... she blathers on about 'you' and 'you people' and 'you guys' and such... who the fuck can tell who these 'you's are.
She's a moron.
that is not what you were saying when Bush was in office
proof?
Pfft... you don't know by now? TDM just makes stuff up.
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It's a basic view that profit is bad and exploitative. Therefore non profits are inherently good, as is government, while for profits are inherently bad. We see this all the time in health care discussions where insurance companies get slammed while competing gov't entitites are lauded.
The truth is that non profits are every bit as greedy, if not more, than for profits, and less accountable. And government is simply unaccountable.
Trying to use the views of those on the far far left to explain the views of those in the middle is not only off the mark, it's a bit stupid. It's like saying all conservatives think we should get rid of the government completely.
What so many of you seem to forget is that government is not this big boogeyman that created itself and is now the enemy of all hard working people. Government is the people deciding what should be done in a collective effort for the better of everyone. That in no way means that the government should run or control everything or that it should put such constraints on business as to make doing business impossible. However, when the people support things such as certain environmental standards, then it is the government's job to ensure that those standards are upheld, even if it becomes a small thorn in the side of business. Bottom line is that the people decide what and what not government will do for all of us.
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It's a basic view that profit is bad and exploitative. Therefore non profits are inherently good, as is government, while for profits are inherently bad. We see this all the time in health care discussions where insurance companies get slammed while competing gov't entitites are lauded.
The truth is that non profits are every bit as greedy, if not more, than for profits, and less accountable. And government is simply unaccountable.
Trying to use the views of those on the far far left to explain the views of those in the middle is not only off the mark, it's a bit stupid. It's like saying all conservatives think we should get rid of the government completely.
What so many of you seem to forget is that government is not this big boogeyman that created itself and is now the enemy of all hard working people. Government is the people deciding what should be done in a collective effort for the better of everyone. That in no way means that the government should run or control everything or that it should put such constraints on business as to make doing business impossible. However, when the people support things such as certain environmental standards, then it is the government's job to ensure that those standards are upheld, even if it becomes a small thorn in the side of business. Bottom line is that the people decide what and what not government will do for all of us.
can you cite anything in the constitution that backs up what i bolded at all?
Who voted on those regs the EPA passes every day? Or the details of Dodd-Frank?
Regulators operate in a responsibility vacuum. They are given authority and then can do pretty much what they want. If they exceed their authority someone might sue them and they back down. But there is no penalty for doing so.
Regulators operate in a responsibility vacuum. They are given authority and then can do pretty much what they want. If they exceed their authority someone might sue them and they back down. But there is no penalty for doing so.
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that is not what you were saying when Bush was in office
proof?
The left don't need proof in their bubble worlds. That's why they're so comfortable.
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that is not what you were saying when Bush was in office
proof?
Pfft... you don't know by now? TDM just makes stuff up.
When Bush was in office are you people going to claim that the left unquestioningly trusted Government?
REALLY?
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proof?
Pfft... you don't know by now? TDM just makes stuff up.
When Bush was in office are you people going to claim that the left unquestioningly trusted Government?
REALLY?
what do you mean "you people?" Why so racist?
what is one thing that is not in the enumerated powers that the federal government has done well? I can't think of anything.
good question.
i think it is because the left is suffering from leftism, which is a mental disorder and designed to destroy america.
what is one thing that is not in the enumerated powers that the federal government has done well? I can't think of anything.
good question.
i think it is because the left is suffering from leftism, which is a mental disorder and designed to destroy america.
grampa, you have still time to cancel your pos rep and remove your thanks.
but thanks anyway.
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why does the left unquestionably trust government?
Does this mean the throngs of OWS protesters that for sure don't trust government are right wing afterall?
pretty sure OWS wants government to help them. I haven't found anything to show the contrary.
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