Why does America think the GOP only cares for the Wealthy?

[Sallow]

Because of the propaganda by liberals. The liberals Marxist/Socialist/Communist policies completely cave under debate (especially since their policies violate the Constitution). So they are forced to take the debate in another direction, ie falsely accusing conservatives of being "racist", of being for the "rich" and hating the poor, etc.

As Warrior102 stated above (and God Bless him for it) - you have no excuses in America except your own laziness. Nobody holds you back in America (although liberals and Obama are trying). Watch "The Pursuit of Happyness" and then come talk to me about "policies to help" anyone. The man was in complete poverty - homeless and hungry. And then he got tired of living that way and he did something about it. I wish the rest of you crying liberals would do the same. The statistics show that the more Socialist policies the liberals have created over the past 100 years, the more poverty this country has had - just like Cuba. You want to end the poverty - take away all of the programs that have removed motivation from those in poverty. Watch how quickly they better themselves when an endless supply of food, housing, and healthcare is taken away from them.

As Benjamin Franklin noted, "The best way to help the poor is to make them uncomfortable in their poverty". Once Chris Gardner became uncomfortable in his poverty, he did something about it. And he is now a multi-millionaire. Pretty much ends all excuses you whining liberals have...

In case you missed it..the Bush administration was an exercise in Theocratic/Oligarchical/Fascist ideals that have failed time and time again. And it was puncuated by the biggest fleecing of this country's wealth, ever. TARP started in the back offices of the Bush administration and was advocated and rammed through congress by John "I bribed the floor of the House with checks from the Tobacco Company" Boehner. No corporate executive, none, felt the impact of the crime they perpetrated to the American public. However..many of the American public..the tax payers..that propped up all the corporations involved in this fucking abortion..were LAID OFF. Hard working people in the financial industry..that played by the rules..got the boot.

So when you gone on about this "just work your ass off and you will succeed" nonsense..think about this..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ja9q386ek]‪RINO Alert: John Boehner Voted for the TARP Bailout‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

 

[California Girl]

Because of the propaganda by liberals. The liberals Marxist/Socialist/Communist policies completely cave under debate (especially since their policies violate the Constitution). So they are forced to take the debate in another direction, ie falsely accusing conservatives of being "racist", of being for the "rich" and hating the poor, etc.

As Warrior102 stated above (and God Bless him for it) - you have no excuses in America except your own laziness. Nobody holds you back in America (although liberals and Obama are trying). Watch "The Pursuit of Happyness" and then come talk to me about "policies to help" anyone. The man was in complete poverty - homeless and hungry. And then he got tired of living that way and he did something about it. I wish the rest of you crying liberals would do the same. The statistics show that the more Socialist policies the liberals have created over the past 100 years, the more poverty this country has had - just like Cuba. You want to end the poverty - take away all of the programs that have removed motivation from those in poverty. Watch how quickly they better themselves when an endless supply of food, housing, and healthcare is taken away from them.

As Benjamin Franklin noted, "The best way to help the poor is to make them uncomfortable in their poverty". Once Chris Gardner became uncomfortable in his poverty, he did something about it. And he is now a multi-millionaire. Pretty much ends all excuses you whining liberals have...

In case you missed it..the Bush administration was an exercise in Theocratic/Oligarchical/Fascist ideals that have failed time and time again. And it was puncuated by the biggest fleecing of this country's wealth, ever. TARP started in the back offices of the Bush administration and was advocated and rammed through congress by John "I bribed the floor of the House with checks from the Tobacco Company" Boehner. No corporate executive, none, felt the impact of the crime they perpetrated to the American public. However..many of the American public..the tax payers..that propped up all the corporations involved in this fucking abortion..were LAID OFF. Hard working people in the financial industry..that played by the rules..got the boot.

So when you gone on about this "just work your ass off and you will succeed" nonsense..think about this..

If the Bush administration was an exercise in 'fascism', then the Obama administration is an exercise in communism.

What a fucking moron you have become.

 

[Si modo]

Because of the propaganda by liberals. The liberals Marxist/Socialist/Communist policies completely cave under debate (especially since their policies violate the Constitution). So they are forced to take the debate in another direction, ie falsely accusing conservatives of being "racist", of being for the "rich" and hating the poor, etc.

As Warrior102 stated above (and God Bless him for it) - you have no excuses in America except your own laziness. Nobody holds you back in America (although liberals and Obama are trying). Watch "The Pursuit of Happyness" and then come talk to me about "policies to help" anyone. The man was in complete poverty - homeless and hungry. And then he got tired of living that way and he did something about it. I wish the rest of you crying liberals would do the same. The statistics show that the more Socialist policies the liberals have created over the past 100 years, the more poverty this country has had - just like Cuba. You want to end the poverty - take away all of the programs that have removed motivation from those in poverty. Watch how quickly they better themselves when an endless supply of food, housing, and healthcare is taken away from them.

As Benjamin Franklin noted, "The best way to help the poor is to make them uncomfortable in their poverty". Once Chris Gardner became uncomfortable in his poverty, he did something about it. And he is now a multi-millionaire. Pretty much ends all excuses you whining liberals have...

In case you missed it..the Bush administration was an exercise in Theocratic/Oligarchical/Fascist ideals that have failed time and time again. And it was puncuated by the biggest fleecing of this country's wealth, ever. TARP started in the back offices of the Bush administration and was advocated and rammed through congress by John "I bribed the floor of the House with checks from the Tobacco Company" Boehner. No corporate executive, none, felt the impact of the crime they perpetrated to the American public. However..many of the American public..the tax payers..that propped up all the corporations involved in this fucking abortion..were LAID OFF. Hard working people in the financial industry..that played by the rules..got the boot.

So when you gone on about this "just work your ass off and you will succeed" nonsense..think about this..

If the Bush administration was an exercise in 'fascism', then the Obama administration is an exercise in communism.

What a fucking moron you have become.

You just don't understand the logic, CG: Bush was bad, baaaaaaaaaaaaad; so when Obama is bad, baaaaaaaaaaaaaad, and even worse, it's OK.

What is wrong with you??????

 

[Kuros]

When someone makes that accusation, I notice that most, if not all of those on the right on the USMB, defend that position instead of denying it. They will say, "Rich people are job creators" or "Rich people already pay too much" or "Why shouldn't rich people keep what they earn"? Or they bring up socialism or communism or some other wild accusation.

But where do they talk about the Middle Class?

Where are their policies to help the Middle Class?

I agree with you, you Leftist Socialist Pinko, you.

The Democrats at least tried to do something for the Middle-class recently: a national health care plan. Sure, it is probably unconstitutional and better left to the states. But their motives were completely understandable. Someone rightly mentions that small business owners are part of the middle-class. Yes, and a collective health care plan would have relieved the burden employers carry in providing their employees health care.

The phrase "job-creators" is the most revealing euphemism ever. Where is the evidence for this so-called job creation, whereby low taxes on the upper income bracket leads to more jobs?

Here is the effect of the Bush tax cuts per income category

Here are the cuts' ambiguous effect on jobs

Here are the cuts' effect on public finances

Obama and the Democrats want to restore the Clinton rates on the rich. So how job-killer were the Clinton rates?

We can blame the Bush tax cuts themselves, or the job-creators for failing to create jobs under ideal GOP economic conditions. But in any case, we cannot say that the GOP cares about jobs. And jobs are the first concern for the middle-class right now. Second is the deficit/debt problem, and raised taxes on the rich can only help that problem.

 

[Truthseeker420]

So the answer so far is "screw the middle class"?

Small business owners are a huge part of the middle class. We have to sue Democrat precincts over voting abuses and vote-padding, which has run amok, rdean.

Big government is nobody's friend, it's just a self-perpetuating melee of people who want big salaries but don't want to work very hard for it.

Private business owners routinely have to do 80 hour weeks just to get by. Government workers may show up their 37 hours, but they aren't called on the carpet if they do 4 or 5 hours of real work a day to get a lot more pay than we get for 80 hours. We don't have time to text-message kids, relatives, friends, and such. We have to keep our noses to the grindstone until old age or bad health take us out.

The big government system is way out of control. We want our reduced fed back, and we're going to do everything we can to get it back. We're sick of no-call lists for Republicans (no confidentiality with the current right-to-know lists) and waiting in line for 5 or 6 damn hours while some fed airhead decides whether she will (1) help us with our IRS issue or (2) call 10 friends and shoot the fun breeze between assignments because nobody's damn watching the party because big government furnishes big private offices to people who used to have desks in a big open area where their actions and lack of action are obvious to da man.

oh please! quit it with the voter fraud ,especially with what happened in 2000 and 2004. I agree red tape is a drag on small business but Republicans made it worse from 2001-2007 when they controlled both Congess and the Presidency.

 

[Truthmatters]

Middle class, scmiddle class. Why don't you attempt to succeed in live, vs. wallowing around in your piss all day. Nobody is stopping anyone from succeeding in America. Hell, if a dope like Sarah Palin can become a multi-millionaire, there's hope for even an idiot like you Dean.

See the middle class dont need defending, Its just those poor set upon wealthy people who need to be protected from our evil government the founder designed.

Everyone knows that the founders hated the wealthy and set up our government to distroy them.

The right wing thinking is so muddled up upon itsself that they cant think straight

 

[Sallow]

Because of the propaganda by liberals. The liberals Marxist/Socialist/Communist policies completely cave under debate (especially since their policies violate the Constitution). So they are forced to take the debate in another direction, ie falsely accusing conservatives of being "racist", of being for the "rich" and hating the poor, etc.

As Warrior102 stated above (and God Bless him for it) - you have no excuses in America except your own laziness. Nobody holds you back in America (although liberals and Obama are trying). Watch "The Pursuit of Happyness" and then come talk to me about "policies to help" anyone. The man was in complete poverty - homeless and hungry. And then he got tired of living that way and he did something about it. I wish the rest of you crying liberals would do the same. The statistics show that the more Socialist policies the liberals have created over the past 100 years, the more poverty this country has had - just like Cuba. You want to end the poverty - take away all of the programs that have removed motivation from those in poverty. Watch how quickly they better themselves when an endless supply of food, housing, and healthcare is taken away from them.

As Benjamin Franklin noted, "The best way to help the poor is to make them uncomfortable in their poverty". Once Chris Gardner became uncomfortable in his poverty, he did something about it. And he is now a multi-millionaire. Pretty much ends all excuses you whining liberals have...

In case you missed it..the Bush administration was an exercise in Theocratic/Oligarchical/Fascist ideals that have failed time and time again. And it was puncuated by the biggest fleecing of this country's wealth, ever. TARP started in the back offices of the Bush administration and was advocated and rammed through congress by John "I bribed the floor of the House with checks from the Tobacco Company" Boehner. No corporate executive, none, felt the impact of the crime they perpetrated to the American public. However..many of the American public..the tax payers..that propped up all the corporations involved in this fucking abortion..were LAID OFF. Hard working people in the financial industry..that played by the rules..got the boot.

So when you gone on about this "just work your ass off and you will succeed" nonsense..think about this..

If the Bush administration was an exercise in 'fascism', then the Obama administration is an exercise in communism.

What a fucking moron you have become.

Touche.

As in..you skipped over the hyperbolic post that I responded to...in kind with the same sort of hyberbole.

In essence...your true partisanship comes out.

You faux Rebel you.

 

[California Girl]

In case you missed it..the Bush administration was an exercise in Theocratic/Oligarchical/Fascist ideals that have failed time and time again. And it was puncuated by the biggest fleecing of this country's wealth, ever. TARP started in the back offices of the Bush administration and was advocated and rammed through congress by John "I bribed the floor of the House with checks from the Tobacco Company" Boehner. No corporate executive, none, felt the impact of the crime they perpetrated to the American public. However..many of the American public..the tax payers..that propped up all the corporations involved in this fucking abortion..were LAID OFF. Hard working people in the financial industry..that played by the rules..got the boot.

So when you gone on about this "just work your ass off and you will succeed" nonsense..think about this..

If the Bush administration was an exercise in 'fascism', then the Obama administration is an exercise in communism.

What a fucking moron you have become.

Touche.

As in..you skipped over the hyperbolic post that I responded to...in kind with the same sort of hyberbole.

In essence...your true partisanship comes out.

You faux Rebel you.

Stupidity suits you.

If you think that you make a point by responding to hyperbole with hyperbole makes you better than the original, you are wrong.

Your moronic partisan whining is embarrassing.

 

[rdean]

I have been asking that question for months, and still haven't had a difinitive answer.

Would one of these brilliant Liberals please tell us - at what point is one rich? Can you provide an annual income level / a baseline that draws the line between middle class and rich?

Thanks...

John McCain says it's someone making 5 million a year. Does that work for you?

That works just fine.

Now, if you don't mind, please go to this website and see who pays the most income taxes, and who pays the least.

Who Pays the Most Income Tax?

Once you've absorbed that, why don't you STFU about the "plight" of the middle class.

Pays the most in dollars is one thing, pays the most as a percentage of their income is another thing entirely.

So the lesson here is the Republicans only care about the wealthy?

 

[rdean]

Only 6% of the Middle class are scientists

I suspect most of the scientists come from the middle class. The children of rich people are usually not that motivated. Try to figure out why.

 

[kaz]

Why does America think the GOP only cares for the Wealthy?

Only liberals think that. According to Democrats, if we treat blacks like everyone else we're racists, women like everyone else we're sexists, think gays should be left alone neither condemned nor validated by government we're homophobes. Then when we want the rich to be treated like everyone else and not singled out for special abuse then that means they are the only ones we care about.

Liberalism, equality through governmental inequity. As stupid an idea as it sounds.

 

[rdean]

When someone makes that accusation, I notice that most, if not all of those on the right on the USMB, defend that position instead of denying it. They will say, "Rich people are job creators" or "Rich people already pay too much" or "Why shouldn't rich people keep what they earn"? Or they bring up socialism or communism or some other wild accusation.

But where do they talk about the Middle Class?

Where are their policies to help the Middle Class?

I agree with you, you Leftist Socialist Pinko, you.

The Democrats at least tried to do something for the Middle-class recently: a national health care plan. Sure, it is probably unconstitutional and better left to the states. But their motives were completely understandable. Someone rightly mentions that small business owners are part of the middle-class. Yes, and a collective health care plan would have relieved the burden employers carry in providing their employees health care.

The phrase "job-creators" is the most revealing euphemism ever. Where is the evidence for this so-called job creation, whereby low taxes on the upper income bracket leads to more jobs?

Here is the effect of the Bush tax cuts per income category

Here are the cuts' ambiguous effect on jobs

Here are the cuts' effect on public finances

Obama and the Democrats want to restore the Clinton rates on the rich. So how job-killer were the Clinton rates?

We can blame the Bush tax cuts themselves, or the job-creators for failing to create jobs under ideal GOP economic conditions. But in any case, we cannot say that the GOP cares about jobs. And jobs are the first concern for the middle-class right now. Second is the deficit/debt problem, and raised taxes on the rich can only help that problem.

Republicans have "gut feeling" and "commone sense". Why do they want to look at facts?

At least they admit they don't care about the middle class. That was the point of this thread.

 

[Flaylo]

The GOp doesn"t speak for America, they speak for the rich, why else would they block the end of the Bush tax cuts for the rich when Obama wanted to raise the tax rate on the top 2% and eliminate on those who make 200,000 and below, which is the majority of the population? Those 2% pay lower tax rates on the dividends and capital gains than the income tax rate of most people and write off more than half their income taxes through loopholes.

 

[Warrior102]

So the answer so far is "screw the middle class"?

Small business owners are a huge part of the middle class. We have to sue Democrat precincts over voting abuses and vote-padding, which has run amok, rdean.

Big government is nobody's friend, it's just a self-perpetuating melee of people who want big salaries but don't want to work very hard for it.

Private business owners routinely have to do 80 hour weeks just to get by. Government workers may show up their 37 hours, but they aren't called on the carpet if they do 4 or 5 hours of real work a day to get a lot more pay than we get for 80 hours. We don't have time to text-message kids, relatives, friends, and such. We have to keep our noses to the grindstone until old age or bad health take us out.

The big government system is way out of control. We want our reduced fed back, and we're going to do everything we can to get it back. We're sick of no-call lists for Republicans (no confidentiality with the current right-to-know lists) and waiting in line for 5 or 6 damn hours while some fed airhead decides whether she will (1) help us with our IRS issue or (2) call 10 friends and shoot the fun breeze between assignments because nobody's damn watching the party because big government furnishes big private offices to people who used to have desks in a big open area where their actions and lack of action are obvious to da man.

oh please! quit it with the voter fraud ,especially with what happened in 2000 and 2004. I agree red tape is a drag on small business but Republicans made it worse from 2001-2007 when they controlled both Congess and the Presidency.

What happened in 2000 and 2004?
Bush won, dumbass.
You still aren't over it?

Tissue?

 

[Warrior102]

The GOp doesn"t speak for America, they speak for the rich, why else would they block the end of the Bush tax cuts for the rich when Obama wanted to raise the tax rate on the top 2% and eliminate on those who make 200,000 and below, which is the majority of the population? Those 2% pay lower tax rates on the dividends and capital gains than the income tax rate of most people and write off more than half their income taxes through loopholes.

God, you are an idiot.

Turn off CNN for a moment and visit this link to see who pays the most in taxes in this country. It's dumbed down enough, even a self-medicated moron like your should comprehend.

Who Pays the Most Income Tax?

 

[kaz]

The GOp doesn"t speak for America, they speak for the rich, why else would they block the end of the Bush tax cuts for the rich when Obama wanted to raise the tax rate on the top 2% and eliminate on those who make 200,000 and below, which is the majority of the population? Those 2% pay lower tax rates on the dividends and capital gains than the income tax rate of most people and write off more than half their income taxes through loopholes.

Right, as you demonstrate not wanting to single out the rich is to only "speak for the rich."

I'm against singling out Jews too, does that mean I only "speak for the Jew?"

 

[rdean]

Why does America think the GOP only cares for the Wealthy?

Only liberals think that. According to Democrats, if we treat blacks like everyone else we're racists, women like everyone else we're sexists, think gays should be left alone neither condemned nor validated by government we're homophobes. Then when we want the rich to be treated like everyone else and not singled out for special abuse then that means they are the only ones we care about.

Liberalism, equality through governmental inequity. As stupid an idea as it sounds.

Saying and doing are two different things. You were almost believable with the women and the blacks. Then when you started going on about how fair the right is with the gays, it became laughable.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

When will Rdean finally realize how funny his silly predictable partisan hatred is?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Why does America think the GOP only cares for the Wealthy?

Good question.

When someone makes that accusation, I notice that most, if not all of those on the right on the USMB, defend that position instead of denying it. They will say, "Rich people are job creators" or "Rich people already pay too much" or "Why shouldn't rich people keep what they earn"? Or they bring up socialism or communism or some other wild accusation.

But where do they talk about the Middle Class?

Where are their policies to help the Middle Class?

I know they ran on "jobs jobs jobs", but they also tell us that "government can't work" and "government doesn't create jobs". So what kind of help does that leave for the Middle Class? None?

Is the GOP solution for helping the Middle Class, "Don't help the Middle Class"? I honestly can't think of a single GOP policy that isn't geared toward the rich. If there are GOP policies designed to help the American Middle Class, what are they? No one can seriously run on, "You are on your own".

No one believes that, not even you. And I would love for you to show me anyone who defends it.

As for what the GOP has done for the middle class, they passed the Bush tax cuts that cut taxes for everyone. The CBO said that the tax cuts for the middle class and the poor cost us $2 trillion dollars over the last 10 years. If that is not helping the middle class I have no idea what you want from anyone.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

What does 'rich people' mean to you, but more importantly, to the Democratic Party?

I have been asking that question for months, and still haven't had a difinitive answer.

Would one of these brilliant Liberals please tell us - at what point is one rich? Can you provide an annual income level / a baseline that draws the line between middle class and rich?

Thanks...

I tried to pin rdean down on that once, and even showed him the numbers from the BLS about how the top 10% of wage earners actually includes the middle class. He accused me of not understand numbers and never came back.