Why do you have have racist/or racial prejudices?

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    As I mentioned in another thread I'm really new but among the subjects that are being discussed, I noticed some people commenting have some serious racist/prejudice views towards people of color (primarily African-Americans). Now to make my thread clear let me clarify that by having a racist view, I'm talking about:

    (A) Actions, beliefs, attitudes, and practices which are typically considered socially negative, attributed to those entities of that particular ethnic group.
    Racial Prejudice:

    (B) an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand without knowledge, thought, or reason of a particular individual and/or group of that particular ethnic group.

    I notice some of you are pointing out statistics to validate your reason (no I don't recognize Wikipedia as a scholarly source of information when debating) without actually citing some references. So it leads me to believe that a lot of these views are basically inherent and these views are most likely based on personal accounts and feelings not necessarily fact. I want to discuss the why's on your particular racist views and whether or not it makes actual sense.
     
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    since you are new I'll point out that you may want to look at some threads startd by blacks that are racists toward whites.

    I don't want to accuse you of having double standards quite yet
     
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    I think most racism is based on ignorance - and no race has a monpoly on that.

    In my experience, all races are capable of racism, and will always find some random group to hate - be that Muslims, Jews, Kikuyu, Serbs, Hmong or Mende.

    On some cases there are strong historical facts to explain the hatred, but to my mind it is never justified.

    My mother always hated the Japanese because she knew people tortured in their camps in WWII. I dated a Japanese girl for a year and my mother eventually found her as charming as I did. Sometimes that is all it takes.
     
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    I would point you to the wealth of data showing that blacks are, as a group, inherently less intelligent than whites. By about 15 IQ points. It's summed nicely in "The Bell Curve", but there are plenty of other sources, if you're interested.

    Are you?

    Most people who scream about "racism" have no interest in the data, scientific or otherwise. You sound rational enough, but there is no more controversial topic, and nobody ever seems to care about facts.
     
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    My teacher always said "if your friends jumped off a bridge would you jump?"

    Someone else's racism doesn't justify you being racist. It's called being an adult and accepting that other people simply have ignorant views. The fact that folks find it acceptable to respond to racism with racism is a contradiction of their own values of fairness.
     
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    First off, the IQ test is not a justification, nor an answer to the Op, as to why you are racist. The question is why your racist. Why do you encourage a view that is not only irrational, but a blanket view of tens of millions of people you hardly know? For examp[le, an IQ test or tests is considered at least historically, racially biased. For one, social psychologist have highlighted varying levels of intelligence. So basing hatred based on IQ test is hardly a proxy for justifying hatred of an entire ethnic group.
     
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    Translation: you're not interested in the facts, or research that contradicts your own viewpoint. And anything that's not your viewpoint is "racist."

    Yawn.
     
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    Sorry I am assisting clinical psychologist and neuropsychologist so my information comes from credible sources. If you want more info on intelligence here is a site that is easily readable.

    Intelligence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    However I will say if your points are true provide a link....
     
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    Quick question for ya. Why does this gap disappear when testing home-schooled students? Can't say that it's because home-schooled kids aren't as smart as others because they test better than public and private schools. Also there has been no instance of public or private school black kids testing better than whites. Even when they attend the same schools or in other words "Get the same education" Yet a guy like Geoffrey Canada can take the worst kids in Harlem and have them testing better than whites. So what we have here is quit a conundrum. For years and years people have been saying that blacks are less intelligent because no matter what, black kids just couldn't close that achievement gap. Now with home-schooling and the HCZ the gap has been closed and in some cases even passed. How do you explain this? It is no longer a question intelligence, it becomes a question of why these kids and not those kids.
     
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    Ok I know the old "Show me a link" bull sheet is coming so here is the data you will most likely overlook. BTW I just liked the title on the first one so I don't need the old crap about where it came from you can easily look up the how did you say "wealth of data" on the subject.
    News and Views: Bad News for White Supremacists; Home-Schooled Blacks Do Just as Well as Homeschooled Whites on Standardized Tests
    News and Views: Bad News for White Supremacists; Home-Schooled Blacks Do Just as Well as Homeschooled Whites on Standardized Tests - The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education | HighBeam Research

    The Harlem Miracle
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/opinion/08brooks.html
     
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