Why do the libs still blame Bush? And How far off Is A.P.s poll?

JRK

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I read a post this morning blaming the lack of effort on illegal aliens and the lies he stated in his speech yesterday was Bushes fault
Why is this 27 months still going? is it all they have?

I see the "A.P." poll finally hit the board.
you could not find 6 people out of 10 who approve of Obama's performance unless it was in Chicago
Look at the direction of country polls and he BHO vs no-one in re election polls
here let me help
Gallup.Com - Daily News, Polls, Public Opinion on Government, Politics, Economics, Management
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™
 
LOL of course AP's poll must be off, it disagrees with you.

No it dis agrees with every other poll out there.
Look its obvious that Obama is the golden child. If I was a supporter of Obama that would bother me
Name one campaign promise he kept?
 
LOL of course AP's poll must be off, it disagrees with you.

No it dis agrees with every other poll out there.
Look its obvious that Obama is the golden child. If I was a supporter of Obama that would bother me
Name one campaign promise he kept?

Name one Bush kept?

Obama is a third Bush term. Why do you think I like the guy?

Why do libs still blame bush? We are still putting up with messes he created or contributed to.
 
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How long did people keep talking about Clinton during Bush's term? Did you think we wouldn't remember? :cuckoo:

No I do not remember, there was this little event called 9-11 that changed the world
 
How long did people keep talking about Clinton during Bush's term? Did you think we wouldn't remember? :cuckoo:

No I do not remember, there was this little event called 9-11 that changed the world

It did not change the world.

Well it did for those who embraced the change and caused it to happen. And I am not speaking about the terrorists.
 
LOL of course AP's poll must be off, it disagrees with you.

No it dis agrees with every other poll out there.
Look its obvious that Obama is the golden child. If I was a supporter of Obama that would bother me
Name one campaign promise he kept?

Name one Bush kept?

Obama is a third Bush term. Why do you think I like the guy?

Why do libs still blame bush? We are still putting up with messes he created or contributed to.

Tax cuts
No child left behind
Medicare reform (part D as I recall)
Prevented any more attacks after 9-11 (2004 promise)
won the war in Iraq (From 2-2003)
removed Saddam from power (same)
Captured KSM (From 9-15-2003 as I recall)
provided the tools that helped with the information that eventually helped with the assassination of OBL (from 9-15 again I think)

You like Bush? Look take out the apology tour, take out the union money give away (100 billion +-) take away the lies about the stimulus (see teachers union payoff and others) Claiming that Bus/Cheney tortured people while at the same time killing civilians in Pakistani to include the out right assassination of OBL, and claiming the conservative is trying to harm every one, oh yea, claiming he can cut 500 billion dollars to pay for Obama care from Medicare
OBL would be just like GWB
 
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:lol:

The question isn't why are "libs" still blaming Bush, the question should be; Why don't Republicans blame him more?

Conservatives DID blame Bush. EVERY time he screwed up. Unlike you fascists who just let lie after lie slide with your current abortion.

I love it though when y'all get one of your screw-ups in. Like Carter. We had a Republican President for 12 years after that infamous debacle.

Problem here is, you lefties don't lean from your own monumental fuck-ups. It'll just take until Herr Obama's policies start taking money from all you wealthy lefties for y'all to start screaming.
 
LOL of course AP's poll must be off, it disagrees with you.

No it dis agrees with every other poll out there.
Look its obvious that Obama is the golden child. If I was a supporter of Obama that would bother me
Name one campaign promise he kept?

He got our troops out of Iraq.

Everyone knows The agreement beetween Iraq and the US to end the war in Iarq was signed in 2008
US, Iraq agree on date for pullout - The Boston Globe

On October 16, 2008, after several more months of negotiations, U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice briefed senior U.S. lawmakers on the draft SOFA, and Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki prepared to circulate it with Iraq's Political National Security Council before going on to the Council of Ministers and the Iraqi parliament. Despite a compromise on the issue of jurisdiction over off-duty U.S. troops who commit crimes under Iraqi law, issues related to the timeline for U.S. withdrawal and Iraqi insistence on "absolute sovereignty" remained.[25]
Approval process

On November 16, Iraq's Cabinet approved the agreements; on November 27, the Iraqi Parliament ratified them; on December 4, Iraq's presidential council approved the security pacts.[26]
Approval by Iraqi Cabinet
On November 16, 2008, Iraq's Cabinet approved the agreement, which cited the end of 2009 for the pull out of US troops from Iraqi cities, and 2011 as the fixed deadline for removal of US military presence in country. US concessions involved a ban on U.S. forces searching and raiding homes without Iraqi approval, the right of Iraqis to search shipments of weapons and packages entering the country for U.S. recipients, and the right of Iraq's justice system to prosecute American troops for serious crimes under some circumstances. The vote was passed by 27 of the 37-member cabinet, of which nine members were absent and one opposing. The agreement then went before Parliament.[27] However, on November 19 the Iraqi Parliament was adjourned for a day after lawmakers loyal to Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr shouted down the second reading of the agreement's text. Speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani adjourned the session after Sadrist MP Ahmed al-Massoudi aggressively approached a lawmaker from the ruling coalition, who was reading aloud the text of the agreement.[28]
The Aswat al-Iraq news agency reported a mixed reaction among the Iraqi population at large to news of cabinet approval of the agreement. Residents of Sadr City in Baghdad, a stronghold of Muqtada al-Sadr, said they believed the agreement was signed too quickly[29], while a broader 'vox pop' of Iraqis around the country said they thought the agreement would become a point of contention[30]
The same day, Secretaries Gates and Rice held classified briefings for U.S. lawmakers behind closed doors, and neither official commented to reporters. Democratic Representative William Delahunt said: "There has been no meaningful consultation with Congress during the negotiations of this agreement and the American people for all intents and purposes have been completely left out." And Oona Hathaway, Professor Law at the University of California at Berkeley called the lack of consultation with United States Congress unprecedented, asserting that aspects of the accord exceed the independent constitutional powers of the President of the United States.[31]
Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki warned Iraq would not seek to extend the UN mandate of U.S. troops and they would pull out immediately if the Iraqi parliament failed to approve a pact.[32] Tariq al Hashimi, the country's Sunni Muslim vice president, complained the U.S. would cease providing many "wide-scale services" if Iraq did not approve the pact. Hashimi said many Iraqis looked "to this attitude as a matter of blackmailing."[33]
First signing of the agreement
On November 17, 2008, the Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshiyar Zebari and U.S. ambassador Ryan Crocker signed the agreement in an official ceremony.[34]
Ratification by Iraqi Parliament
On November 27, 2008, the Iraqi Parliament ratified a Status of Forces Agreement with the United States, establishing that U.S. combat forces will withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011, but allowing for further negotiation if the Iraqi Prime Minister believes Iraq is not stable enough. The pact requires criminal charges for holding prisoners over 24 hours, and requires a warrant for searches of homes and buildings that are not related to combat.[3] U.S. contractors will be subject to Iraqi criminal law. If U.S. forces commit still undecided "major premeditated felonies" while off-duty and off-base, they will be subject to the still undecided procedures laid out by a joint U.S.-Iraq committee if the U.S. certifies the forces were off-duty.[4][5][6][3] A referendum of Iraqis will be held in mid-2009 on the pact, which may require Coalition forces to leave by the middle of 2010.[1] Parliament also passed another U.S.-Iraqi bilateral pact called the Strategic Framework Agreement, aimed at ensuring minority Sunni interests and constitutional rights.[9]
In Iraq's Parliament, the pact was supported by 149 of 275 members (~54%) from SCIRI, Dawa, the two Kurdish parties and members of the Sunni-based Iraqi Accord Front.[35] The pact was opposed by 35 members, mostly from the Sadrist bloc.[36] 91 members did not vote, fearing for their future if they said yes, others fearing the same if they said no.[11]
Approval by Presidency Council
Further information: Presidency Council of Iraq
The Presidency Council of Iraq consists of one President and two deputies, or Vice-Presidents.[37] The Council currently consists of Kurdish President Jalal Talabani, Shi'a Vice President Adel Abdul Mahdi, and Sunni Vice President Tariq Al-Hashimi. The Council must agree to all decisions unanimously.[37]
On December 4, 2008 Iraq's presidential council approved the security pact. "Nothing has been changed (in the accord)", presidency secretary Nasir al-Ani said after it was reviewed by the body. The council decision marks the final hurdle for the pact in terms of Iraqi government or legislative approval.[26]
 
:lol:

The question isn't why are "libs" still blaming Bush, the question should be; Why don't Republicans blame him more?

Conservatives DID blame Bush. EVERY time he screwed up. Unlike you fascists who just let lie after lie slide with your current abortion.

I love it though when y'all get one of your screw-ups in. Like Carter. We had a Republican President for 12 years after that infamous debacle.

Problem here is, you lefties don't lean from your own monumental fuck-ups. It'll just take until Herr Obama's policies start taking money from all you wealthy lefties for y'all to start screaming.

Says the guy backing the party that has Donald Trump leading their polls for POTUS in 2012.:cuckoo:
 
:lol:

The question isn't why are "libs" still blaming Bush, the question should be; Why don't Republicans blame him more?

KA-POW!!!


kapow.jpg
 
No it dis agrees with every other poll out there.
Look its obvious that Obama is the golden child. If I was a supporter of Obama that would bother me
Name one campaign promise he kept?

He got our troops out of Iraq.

Everyone knows The agreement beetween Iraq and the US to end the war in Iarq was signed in 2008
US, Iraq agree on date for pullout - The Boston Globe

On October 16, 2008, after several more months of negotiations, U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice briefed senior U.S. lawmakers on the draft SOFA, and Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki prepared to circulate it with Iraq's Political National Security Council before going on to the Council of Ministers and the Iraqi parliament. Despite a compromise on the issue of jurisdiction over off-duty U.S. troops who commit crimes under Iraqi law, issues related to the timeline for U.S. withdrawal and Iraqi insistence on "absolute sovereignty" remained.[25]
Approval process

On November 16, Iraq's Cabinet approved the agreements; on November 27, the Iraqi Parliament ratified them; on December 4, Iraq's presidential council approved the security pacts.[26]
Approval by Iraqi Cabinet
On November 16, 2008, Iraq's Cabinet approved the agreement, which cited the end of 2009 for the pull out of US troops from Iraqi cities, and 2011 as the fixed deadline for removal of US military presence in country. US concessions involved a ban on U.S. forces searching and raiding homes without Iraqi approval, the right of Iraqis to search shipments of weapons and packages entering the country for U.S. recipients, and the right of Iraq's justice system to prosecute American troops for serious crimes under some circumstances. The vote was passed by 27 of the 37-member cabinet, of which nine members were absent and one opposing. The agreement then went before Parliament.[27] However, on November 19 the Iraqi Parliament was adjourned for a day after lawmakers loyal to Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr shouted down the second reading of the agreement's text. Speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani adjourned the session after Sadrist MP Ahmed al-Massoudi aggressively approached a lawmaker from the ruling coalition, who was reading aloud the text of the agreement.[28]
The Aswat al-Iraq news agency reported a mixed reaction among the Iraqi population at large to news of cabinet approval of the agreement. Residents of Sadr City in Baghdad, a stronghold of Muqtada al-Sadr, said they believed the agreement was signed too quickly[29], while a broader 'vox pop' of Iraqis around the country said they thought the agreement would become a point of contention[30]
The same day, Secretaries Gates and Rice held classified briefings for U.S. lawmakers behind closed doors, and neither official commented to reporters. Democratic Representative William Delahunt said: "There has been no meaningful consultation with Congress during the negotiations of this agreement and the American people for all intents and purposes have been completely left out." And Oona Hathaway, Professor Law at the University of California at Berkeley called the lack of consultation with United States Congress unprecedented, asserting that aspects of the accord exceed the independent constitutional powers of the President of the United States.[31]
Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki warned Iraq would not seek to extend the UN mandate of U.S. troops and they would pull out immediately if the Iraqi parliament failed to approve a pact.[32] Tariq al Hashimi, the country's Sunni Muslim vice president, complained the U.S. would cease providing many "wide-scale services" if Iraq did not approve the pact. Hashimi said many Iraqis looked "to this attitude as a matter of blackmailing."[33]
First signing of the agreement
On November 17, 2008, the Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshiyar Zebari and U.S. ambassador Ryan Crocker signed the agreement in an official ceremony.[34]
Ratification by Iraqi Parliament
On November 27, 2008, the Iraqi Parliament ratified a Status of Forces Agreement with the United States, establishing that U.S. combat forces will withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011, but allowing for further negotiation if the Iraqi Prime Minister believes Iraq is not stable enough. The pact requires criminal charges for holding prisoners over 24 hours, and requires a warrant for searches of homes and buildings that are not related to combat.[3] U.S. contractors will be subject to Iraqi criminal law. If U.S. forces commit still undecided "major premeditated felonies" while off-duty and off-base, they will be subject to the still undecided procedures laid out by a joint U.S.-Iraq committee if the U.S. certifies the forces were off-duty.[4][5][6][3] A referendum of Iraqis will be held in mid-2009 on the pact, which may require Coalition forces to leave by the middle of 2010.[1] Parliament also passed another U.S.-Iraqi bilateral pact called the Strategic Framework Agreement, aimed at ensuring minority Sunni interests and constitutional rights.[9]
In Iraq's Parliament, the pact was supported by 149 of 275 members (~54%) from SCIRI, Dawa, the two Kurdish parties and members of the Sunni-based Iraqi Accord Front.[35] The pact was opposed by 35 members, mostly from the Sadrist bloc.[36] 91 members did not vote, fearing for their future if they said yes, others fearing the same if they said no.[11]
Approval by Presidency Council
Further information: Presidency Council of Iraq
The Presidency Council of Iraq consists of one President and two deputies, or Vice-Presidents.[37] The Council currently consists of Kurdish President Jalal Talabani, Shi'a Vice President Adel Abdul Mahdi, and Sunni Vice President Tariq Al-Hashimi. The Council must agree to all decisions unanimously.[37]
On December 4, 2008 Iraq's presidential council approved the security pact. "Nothing has been changed (in the accord)", presidency secretary Nasir al-Ani said after it was reviewed by the body. The council decision marks the final hurdle for the pact in terms of Iraqi government or legislative approval.[26]

AND everyone knows that before Obama promised to bring our troops home, while McCain was wanting to keep them there for 100 years or more, Bush had NO exit "strategery". This plan was implemented by Bush because it was becoming apparent that McCain could not beat Obama by promising to keep our troops in Iraq indefinitely.
 
He got our troops out of Iraq.

Everyone knows The agreement beetween Iraq and the US to end the war in Iarq was signed in 2008
US, Iraq agree on date for pullout - The Boston Globe

On October 16, 2008, after several more months of negotiations, U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice briefed senior U.S. lawmakers on the draft SOFA, and Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki prepared to circulate it with Iraq's Political National Security Council before going on to the Council of Ministers and the Iraqi parliament. Despite a compromise on the issue of jurisdiction over off-duty U.S. troops who commit crimes under Iraqi law, issues related to the timeline for U.S. withdrawal and Iraqi insistence on "absolute sovereignty" remained.[25]
Approval process

On November 16, Iraq's Cabinet approved the agreements; on November 27, the Iraqi Parliament ratified them; on December 4, Iraq's presidential council approved the security pacts.[26]
Approval by Iraqi Cabinet
On November 16, 2008, Iraq's Cabinet approved the agreement, which cited the end of 2009 for the pull out of US troops from Iraqi cities, and 2011 as the fixed deadline for removal of US military presence in country. US concessions involved a ban on U.S. forces searching and raiding homes without Iraqi approval, the right of Iraqis to search shipments of weapons and packages entering the country for U.S. recipients, and the right of Iraq's justice system to prosecute American troops for serious crimes under some circumstances. The vote was passed by 27 of the 37-member cabinet, of which nine members were absent and one opposing. The agreement then went before Parliament.[27] However, on November 19 the Iraqi Parliament was adjourned for a day after lawmakers loyal to Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr shouted down the second reading of the agreement's text. Speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani adjourned the session after Sadrist MP Ahmed al-Massoudi aggressively approached a lawmaker from the ruling coalition, who was reading aloud the text of the agreement.[28]
The Aswat al-Iraq news agency reported a mixed reaction among the Iraqi population at large to news of cabinet approval of the agreement. Residents of Sadr City in Baghdad, a stronghold of Muqtada al-Sadr, said they believed the agreement was signed too quickly[29], while a broader 'vox pop' of Iraqis around the country said they thought the agreement would become a point of contention[30]
The same day, Secretaries Gates and Rice held classified briefings for U.S. lawmakers behind closed doors, and neither official commented to reporters. Democratic Representative William Delahunt said: "There has been no meaningful consultation with Congress during the negotiations of this agreement and the American people for all intents and purposes have been completely left out." And Oona Hathaway, Professor Law at the University of California at Berkeley called the lack of consultation with United States Congress unprecedented, asserting that aspects of the accord exceed the independent constitutional powers of the President of the United States.[31]
Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki warned Iraq would not seek to extend the UN mandate of U.S. troops and they would pull out immediately if the Iraqi parliament failed to approve a pact.[32] Tariq al Hashimi, the country's Sunni Muslim vice president, complained the U.S. would cease providing many "wide-scale services" if Iraq did not approve the pact. Hashimi said many Iraqis looked "to this attitude as a matter of blackmailing."[33]
First signing of the agreement
On November 17, 2008, the Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshiyar Zebari and U.S. ambassador Ryan Crocker signed the agreement in an official ceremony.[34]
Ratification by Iraqi Parliament
On November 27, 2008, the Iraqi Parliament ratified a Status of Forces Agreement with the United States, establishing that U.S. combat forces will withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011, but allowing for further negotiation if the Iraqi Prime Minister believes Iraq is not stable enough. The pact requires criminal charges for holding prisoners over 24 hours, and requires a warrant for searches of homes and buildings that are not related to combat.[3] U.S. contractors will be subject to Iraqi criminal law. If U.S. forces commit still undecided "major premeditated felonies" while off-duty and off-base, they will be subject to the still undecided procedures laid out by a joint U.S.-Iraq committee if the U.S. certifies the forces were off-duty.[4][5][6][3] A referendum of Iraqis will be held in mid-2009 on the pact, which may require Coalition forces to leave by the middle of 2010.[1] Parliament also passed another U.S.-Iraqi bilateral pact called the Strategic Framework Agreement, aimed at ensuring minority Sunni interests and constitutional rights.[9]
In Iraq's Parliament, the pact was supported by 149 of 275 members (~54%) from SCIRI, Dawa, the two Kurdish parties and members of the Sunni-based Iraqi Accord Front.[35] The pact was opposed by 35 members, mostly from the Sadrist bloc.[36] 91 members did not vote, fearing for their future if they said yes, others fearing the same if they said no.[11]
Approval by Presidency Council
Further information: Presidency Council of Iraq
The Presidency Council of Iraq consists of one President and two deputies, or Vice-Presidents.[37] The Council currently consists of Kurdish President Jalal Talabani, Shi'a Vice President Adel Abdul Mahdi, and Sunni Vice President Tariq Al-Hashimi. The Council must agree to all decisions unanimously.[37]
On December 4, 2008 Iraq's presidential council approved the security pact. "Nothing has been changed (in the accord)", presidency secretary Nasir al-Ani said after it was reviewed by the body. The council decision marks the final hurdle for the pact in terms of Iraqi government or legislative approval.[26]

AND everyone knows that before Obama promised to bring our troops home, while McCain was wanting to keep them there for 100 years or more, Bush had NO exit "strategery". This plan was implemented by Bush because it was becoming apparent that McCain could not beat Obama by promising to keep our troops in Iraq indefinitely.

Bottom line is, dork: our troops are still in Iraq. And Afghanistan. And now we're meddling in other internal ME conflicts that we weren't before.

You're too stupid to be in this thread.
 
:lol:

The question isn't why are "libs" still blaming Bush, the question should be; Why don't Republicans blame him more?

KA-POW!!!


kapow.jpg

What should we blame Bush for?
allowing me to keep 24,000 dollars more of my income than Clinton did?
for tarp?
for doing the right thing when it came to protecting this country?
 
Everyone knows The agreement beetween Iraq and the US to end the war in Iarq was signed in 2008
US, Iraq agree on date for pullout - The Boston Globe

On October 16, 2008, after several more months of negotiations, U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice briefed senior U.S. lawmakers on the draft SOFA, and Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki prepared to circulate it with Iraq's Political National Security Council before going on to the Council of Ministers and the Iraqi parliament. Despite a compromise on the issue of jurisdiction over off-duty U.S. troops who commit crimes under Iraqi law, issues related to the timeline for U.S. withdrawal and Iraqi insistence on "absolute sovereignty" remained.[25]
Approval process

On November 16, Iraq's Cabinet approved the agreements; on November 27, the Iraqi Parliament ratified them; on December 4, Iraq's presidential council approved the security pacts.[26]
Approval by Iraqi Cabinet
On November 16, 2008, Iraq's Cabinet approved the agreement, which cited the end of 2009 for the pull out of US troops from Iraqi cities, and 2011 as the fixed deadline for removal of US military presence in country. US concessions involved a ban on U.S. forces searching and raiding homes without Iraqi approval, the right of Iraqis to search shipments of weapons and packages entering the country for U.S. recipients, and the right of Iraq's justice system to prosecute American troops for serious crimes under some circumstances. The vote was passed by 27 of the 37-member cabinet, of which nine members were absent and one opposing. The agreement then went before Parliament.[27] However, on November 19 the Iraqi Parliament was adjourned for a day after lawmakers loyal to Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr shouted down the second reading of the agreement's text. Speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani adjourned the session after Sadrist MP Ahmed al-Massoudi aggressively approached a lawmaker from the ruling coalition, who was reading aloud the text of the agreement.[28]
The Aswat al-Iraq news agency reported a mixed reaction among the Iraqi population at large to news of cabinet approval of the agreement. Residents of Sadr City in Baghdad, a stronghold of Muqtada al-Sadr, said they believed the agreement was signed too quickly[29], while a broader 'vox pop' of Iraqis around the country said they thought the agreement would become a point of contention[30]
The same day, Secretaries Gates and Rice held classified briefings for U.S. lawmakers behind closed doors, and neither official commented to reporters. Democratic Representative William Delahunt said: "There has been no meaningful consultation with Congress during the negotiations of this agreement and the American people for all intents and purposes have been completely left out." And Oona Hathaway, Professor Law at the University of California at Berkeley called the lack of consultation with United States Congress unprecedented, asserting that aspects of the accord exceed the independent constitutional powers of the President of the United States.[31]
Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki warned Iraq would not seek to extend the UN mandate of U.S. troops and they would pull out immediately if the Iraqi parliament failed to approve a pact.[32] Tariq al Hashimi, the country's Sunni Muslim vice president, complained the U.S. would cease providing many "wide-scale services" if Iraq did not approve the pact. Hashimi said many Iraqis looked "to this attitude as a matter of blackmailing."[33]
First signing of the agreement
On November 17, 2008, the Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshiyar Zebari and U.S. ambassador Ryan Crocker signed the agreement in an official ceremony.[34]
Ratification by Iraqi Parliament
On November 27, 2008, the Iraqi Parliament ratified a Status of Forces Agreement with the United States, establishing that U.S. combat forces will withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011, but allowing for further negotiation if the Iraqi Prime Minister believes Iraq is not stable enough. The pact requires criminal charges for holding prisoners over 24 hours, and requires a warrant for searches of homes and buildings that are not related to combat.[3] U.S. contractors will be subject to Iraqi criminal law. If U.S. forces commit still undecided "major premeditated felonies" while off-duty and off-base, they will be subject to the still undecided procedures laid out by a joint U.S.-Iraq committee if the U.S. certifies the forces were off-duty.[4][5][6][3] A referendum of Iraqis will be held in mid-2009 on the pact, which may require Coalition forces to leave by the middle of 2010.[1] Parliament also passed another U.S.-Iraqi bilateral pact called the Strategic Framework Agreement, aimed at ensuring minority Sunni interests and constitutional rights.[9]
In Iraq's Parliament, the pact was supported by 149 of 275 members (~54%) from SCIRI, Dawa, the two Kurdish parties and members of the Sunni-based Iraqi Accord Front.[35] The pact was opposed by 35 members, mostly from the Sadrist bloc.[36] 91 members did not vote, fearing for their future if they said yes, others fearing the same if they said no.[11]
Approval by Presidency Council
Further information: Presidency Council of Iraq
The Presidency Council of Iraq consists of one President and two deputies, or Vice-Presidents.[37] The Council currently consists of Kurdish President Jalal Talabani, Shi'a Vice President Adel Abdul Mahdi, and Sunni Vice President Tariq Al-Hashimi. The Council must agree to all decisions unanimously.[37]
On December 4, 2008 Iraq's presidential council approved the security pact. "Nothing has been changed (in the accord)", presidency secretary Nasir al-Ani said after it was reviewed by the body. The council decision marks the final hurdle for the pact in terms of Iraqi government or legislative approval.[26]

AND everyone knows that before Obama promised to bring our troops home, while McCain was wanting to keep them there for 100 years or more, Bush had NO exit "strategery". This plan was implemented by Bush because it was becoming apparent that McCain could not beat Obama by promising to keep our troops in Iraq indefinitely.

Bottom line is, dork: our troops are still in Iraq. And Afghanistan. And now we're meddling in other internal ME conflicts that we weren't before.

You're too stupid to be in this thread.

Comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? JRK asked a specific question and I provided a specific answer. Your rabid temperament leads you astray and off topic entirely too often.
 

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