Why do Republicans sabotage Obamacare - then say it's failing?

2aguy said:
Lakhota said:
Do they think no one is noticing? There is plenty of proof of their sabotage:
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They didn't sabotage it....it is collapsing all on it's own....it was designed to fail so they could get single payer when it collapsed.....too bad for them, hilary lost.
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ummmmm.... here's a little factoid.

blame it on little marco

Rubio Scores a Direct Hit on Obamacare

Marco Rubio Quietly Undermines Affordable Care Act

Rubio Touts Measure In Omnibus To Stop ObamaCare Taxpayer-Funded Bailout Of Health Insurance Companies
 
Valerie said:
Valerie said:
I Don't Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People

I Don't Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People
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jc456 said:
why should I, cause you do? who the fk do you think you are
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ours is a government by the people, FOR THE PEOPLE........... now you know! :itsok:


General welfare clause - Wikipedia
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You can't force DEPLORABLES to care about their fellow man. They only care about their 35% cult.. just like their fuhrer.
 
mudwhistle said:
ClosedCaption said:
Lakhota said:
Some of their tactics border on treason.
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Essentially they are poking holds in the raft and screaming "look it's failing" with the ice pic still in hand.
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No....Dumbass

They're trying to fix it so it won't collapse and cause a shitload of people from losing their coverage. They could have just done nothing and watched it implode on it's own this Winter. They can't get 60 votes to repeal the ACA completely, so instead they're trying to decrease the damage.
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Would you show us just how the ACA is going to implode this winter?
Is fixing it, the reason that 22 million people will lose coverage?
They have done a fine job decreasing the damage, as of now 17% of the American people support the Senate piece of garbage
 
2aguy said:
Tax Man said:
The gop can not stand the fact that a black president did better than Ronnie The Saint ray goon.
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How is that....since everything he did is gone? By the way...what was his name again.....I just know the things people will remember about him is he gave Iran Nuclear weapons, and had a funny sounding name....
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oh even you can't really believe that. cough up a verifiable non biased link.

not infowars, not gateway pundit, not brietbart, american thinker, newsmax.................
 
Penelope said:
The GOP cost taxpayers millions do their best to appeal it and destroy it. They couldn't stand the Dems finally did something, and they will lose again. Next time it will be universal care.
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i'm hearing the words: ' public option ' again.....
 
Reasonable said:
jc456 said:
Reasonable said:
jc456 said:
Lakhota said:
Do they think no one is noticing? There is plenty of proof of their sabotage:
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all of that and there is absolutely nothing there. wtf did they sabotage? name what they did? do you know what the word means?
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You were given a half dozen links to educate yourself then you ask " name what they did"
Lmao.
You really are the dumbest mfer on the planet..
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I'm not reading everyone of those. why don't you pull out the piece that shows the sabotage from each. the pieces you pulled out don't.
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It's not my thread bonehead. You are one lazy mfer..
But the bottom line you're allergic to learning. You don't want anything in your head that might conflict with what Trump told you.
The fact the GOP sabatoged OC in order to blame dems when their HC bills fail has been reported for weeks now. Once again I see you don't read or read only RW propaganda.
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well then did you read each of those links?
 
oooh the boogeyman SOCIALISM, brought to you by ignorant parrots fallen prey to FAKE NEWS.


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playtime said:
2aguy said:
Tax Man said:
The gop can not stand the fact that a black president did better than Ronnie The Saint ray goon.
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How is that....since everything he did is gone? By the way...what was his name again.....I just know the things people will remember about him is he gave Iran Nuclear weapons, and had a funny sounding name....
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oh even you can't really believe that. cough up a verifiable non biased link.

not infowars, not gateway pundit, not brietbart, american thinker, newsmax.................
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what you want CNN? LOL. what a bunch of libturd fkwads.
 
Reasonable said:
jc456 said:
Lakhota said:
Do they think no one is noticing? There is plenty of proof of their sabotage:
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all of that and there is absolutely nothing there. wtf did they sabotage? name what they did? do you know what the word means?
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You were given a half dozen links to educate yourself then you ask " name what they did"
Lmao.
You really are the dumbest mfer on the planet..
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Eductate on what revisonist history by the left? Just look at his first bullshit link.....the times is upset thinking the States should of been forced to take Medicaid expansion and should of just gone along with the leftys bullshit game




  • The A.C.A. is not perfect, and improvements to it would be welcome. But it worked in many respects and would have worked much better had Congress been a faithful guardian of the law.

    It is worth making a record of those Republican saboteurs’ efforts. The A.C.A.’s opponents brought a lawsuit against its requirement that people buy insurance — a Republican idea — the very day the statute was signed into law. The Supreme Court rejected that claim. But the court gave opponents a major victory on another front, ruling that Obamacare’s expansion of Medicaid was optional for states. Yet another lawsuit seized on some sloppy language in the law to make the implausible argument that Congress did not provide for the insurance subsidies on which the law depends. The Supreme Court also rejected that challenge.

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Lakhota said:
Dont Taz Me Bro said:
Valerie said:
I Don't Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People

I Don't Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People
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Yes, you're very caring about other people when you're spending other people's money.
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Would you rather spend more when they go to the Emergency Room?
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why would they go to the emergency room unless it is an emergency? what happened to urgent care facilities and doctor's offices?
 
bear513 said:
Reasonable said:
jc456 said:
Lakhota said:
Do they think no one is noticing? There is plenty of proof of their sabotage:
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all of that and there is absolutely nothing there. wtf did they sabotage? name what they did? do you know what the word means?
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You were given a half dozen links to educate yourself then you ask " name what they did"
Lmao.
You really are the dumbest mfer on the planet..
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Eductate on what revisonist history by the left? Just look at his first bullshit link.....the times is upset thinking the States should of been forced to take Medicaid expansion and should of just gone along with the leftys bullshit game




  • The A.C.A. is not perfect, and improvements to it would be welcome. But it worked in many respects and would have worked much better had Congress been a faithful guardian of the law.

    It is worth making a record of those Republican saboteurs’ efforts. The A.C.A.’s opponents brought a lawsuit against its requirement that people buy insurance — a Republican idea — the very day the statute was signed into law. The Supreme Court rejected that claim. But the court gave opponents a major victory on another front, ruling that Obamacare’s expansion of Medicaid was optional for states. Yet another lawsuit seized on some sloppy language in the law to make the implausible argument that Congress did not provide for the insurance subsidies on which the law depends. The Supreme Court also rejected that challenge.

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what the states did is try and put as many people on medicaid as they could because they got back 67 cents to every dollar spent from the feds. what? yep, I learned that this morning.
 
Valerie said:
I Don't Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People

I’m perfectly content to pay taxes that go toward public schools, even though I’m childless and intend to stay that way, because all children deserve a quality, free education. If this seems unfair or unreasonable to you, we are never going to see eye to eye.


If I have to pay a little more with each paycheck to ensure my fellow Americans can access health care? SIGN ME UP. Poverty should not be a death sentence in the richest country in the world. If you’re okay with thousands of people dying of treatable diseases just so the wealthiest among us can hoard still more wealth, there is a divide between our worldviews that can never be bridged.


I don’t know how to convince someone how to experience the basic human emotion of empathy. I cannot have one more conversation with someone who is content to see millions of people suffer needlessly in exchange for a tax cut that statistically they’ll never see (do you make anywhere close to the median American salary? Less? Congrats, this tax break is not for you).
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I cannot have political debates with these people. Our disagreement is not merely political, but a fundamental divide on what it means to live in a society, how to be a good person, and why any of that matters.


There are all kinds of practical, self-serving reasons to raise the minimum wage (fairly compensated workers typically do better work), fund public schools (everyone’s safer when the general public can read and use critical thinking), and make sure every American can access health care (outbreaks of preventable diseases being generally undesirable).


But if making sure your fellow citizens can afford to eat, get an education, and go to the doctor isn’t enough of a reason to fund those things, I have nothing left to say to you.

I can’t debate someone into caring about what happens to their fellow human beings.
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You seem to think that funneling more and more money into the teachers union helps our kids get a quality education. Hello, where have you been over the past 40 years, we've been spending more and more money on education using the same business model for 40 years but our kids are NOT getting that quality education you speak of, relative to many other advanced societies. Changes are in order, but your side won't make them cuz your party is too in thrall tot he teachers union. And you're lecturing me about caring for other people?

Healthcare, how do you not see how much Obamacare is failing? It is astounding that anyone can look at the absolute mess our healthcare system is in right now and then turn around and talk about empathy. News flash: more gov't control is not the answer. And neither is the current GOP plans either, we gotta do better than what either side is fighting for. Thousands of people dying of treatable diseases? That is BULL FUCKING SHIT; anybody who pushes that nonsense is not in a position to talk about having a civil debate with. We have ERs that still treat people that are dying. And according to some studies people on Medicaid are not getting better outcomes than the uninsured, does HuffPo tell you that little secret?

Poverty is NOT a death sentence, Jesus H. Christ. The lifestyle and standard of living for most people in this country is pretty damn good. Your attitude is not exactly conducive to any kind of civil discussion considering your complete lack of tolerance for any view but your own. You simply cannot abide any viewpoint but your own nor offer any respect to those with different ideas and solutions. In short, you are a waste of my time. Have a nice day.
 
Lakhota said:
Dont Taz Me Bro said:
Valerie said:
I Don't Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People

I Don't Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People
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Yes, you're very caring about other people when you're spending other people's money.
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Would you rather spend more when they go to the Emergency Room?
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I'd rather they pay their own bill like I pay mine. You people are the ones who decided the taxpayers would pick up the tab when you backed EMTALA. Now you're complaining about it. There is nothing that says the taxpayer have to cover the cost. You choose to cover it.
 
OMFG *gasp* American SOCIALISM? :omg: isn't that a lot like COMMUNISM?? :haha:

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fake news parrots are the TRUE American snow flakes SO afraid of the boogeyman under their bed. :thup:
 
Dont Taz Me Bro said:
Lakhota said:
Dont Taz Me Bro said:
Valerie said:
I Don't Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People

I Don't Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People
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Yes, you're very caring about other people when you're spending other people's money.
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Would you rather spend more when they go to the Emergency Room?
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I'd rather they pay their own bill like I pay mine. You people are the ones who decided the taxpayers would pick up the tab when you backed EMTALA. Now you're complaining about it. There is nothing that says the taxpayer have to cover the cost. You choose to cover it.
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It's the law.
 
Reasonable said:
Valerie said:
Valerie said:
I Don't Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People

I Don't Know How To Explain To You That You Should Care About Other People
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jc456 said:
why should I, cause you do? who the fk do you think you are
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ours is a government by the people, FOR THE PEOPLE........... now you know! :itsok:


General welfare clause - Wikipedia
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You can't force DEPLORABLES to care about their fellow man. They only care about their 35% cult.. just like their fuhrer.
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Yes we know the degenerate left only gives to charity with our people's money, not so much of their own..



Get the fuck out cheap skates



Biden gave average of $369 to charity a year

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