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It is fallacious to say evolutionists attack creationists, and leave it at that. It is actually creationists who have been attacking and trying to deface and debunk science since its inception. Any explanations that rivaled the churches were banished. It seems as if theists are programmed to believe they are the victims When in fact, they are the insecure aggressors.
Very true.
Its also an effort on the part of creationists to conjoin church and state in violation of the First Amendment, an attempt to codify Christian dogma into secular laws. Its perfectly appropriate for Americans to defend their religious freedoms when attacked by creationists and others on the radical Christian right.
Proof of creationists desire to conjoin church and state is found in the case of Edwards v. Aguillard (1987), where the Supreme Court ruled that creationism was indeed religion, that its being taught in Louisiana public schools was in violation of the Establishment Clause, and where the laws intent was to only foster religious practice, not to further a legitimate secular purpose.
Creationists want their theory taught in secular schools.
That's like asking Secular science be preached in Churches.
The search for truth is the entire reason for education to exist. If all one is looking for is a secular excuse for living, why bother teaching anything at all? And the fact remains that both home schoolers and christian institutions are coming under pressure to teach "secular" theories, while all the secular institution need only explain secular opinions.
If you don't understand basic English, don't comment n00bAnd you like gay jokes, pumkin?
Are you asking me if I want to participate in gay jokes with you? Cause if not, I don't understand the relevance..
Neither did I understand the social relavance of your original comment.
You have that backwards. It is the Creationists who have been attacking the Evolutionists. The Creationists are tyhe ones who have no proof, no evidence, to back up their claim and all they can do is attack evolution. They've been doing that since the time of Darwin.
You have it BACKWARDS! Every college and university that boasts a Christian foundation (and that is quite a few if not most), began to allow liberal interpretations of creation and the acceptance of evolution so as not to seem ridged and controlling. The science departments allowed evolutionists to eventually head the departments in an effort to promote investigation and "modern" research and study. This was all done in the name of a well rounded education; however, the evolutionists (once they gained control of the science departments) began to exclude and eliminate anyone who stood against their interpretation of the data. This continued until everyone who considered Biblical investigations of value retied or left. All one has to do is read the threads (even here) to find that evolutionists are very exclusive and make fun of everything Creationists have to say, EVEN when creationist findings are proven. The issue at stake is if GOD exists. Evolutionists do not need GOD (or so they have concluded). And most evolutionist are at best agnostics with little desire to rock their boat, which has becoame a cozy home for them from which to preach their Cosmos Tales. Personally, I have no problem with Christians working with atheists. The problem is that atheists do not like Chrisitan thought and wish to shove it into ones personal closet and away from public display... That cannot be denied.
Creationists want their theory taught in secular schools.
That's like asking Secular science be preached in Churches.
The search for truth is the entire reason for education to exist. If all one is looking for is a secular excuse for living, why bother teaching anything at all? And the fact remains that both home schoolers and christian institutions are coming under pressure to teach "secular" theories, while all the secular institution need only explain secular opinions.
(i.e., anyone who questions their politically correct dogma) as a means of defending their own position? Is arguing that the earth is more than 6,000 years old the best they can do? I don't care if we descended from apes or not, but the currently popular "explanation" that inter-species transformation simply "occurs" over "millions of years" is profoundly dissatisfying, particularly in the complete absence of supporting archeological evidence.
Even the biological definition of "species" has been changed to fit this narrative: It used to be that different species would be unable to mate and have offspring capable of further reproduction (e.g., horses and donkeys producing sterile mules). Now this has changed to muddy the distinction between localized adaptations (like polar bears) and separate,genetically incompatible species. Thus have been created "hybrid species" and other euphemistic terms for dealing with these unanswered questions.
The longest running biological experiment in human history has been the specialization of dog breeds over the past 5,000 years, resulting in the greatest size variation (100+ times) of any animal that has every existed on Earth. But at the end of the day, they are all still dogs biologically capable of producing viable offspring. Why haven't they developed into different species?
Well genetics have not changed. Offspring tend toward the average. They do not evolve upward. I think the Sitchen work about why there is no missing piece is rather compelling.
You have that backwards. It is the Creationists who have been attacking the Evolutionists. The Creationists are tyhe ones who have no proof, no evidence, to back up their claim and all they can do is attack evolution. They've been doing that since the time of Darwin.
You have it BACKWARDS! Every college and university that boasts a Christian foundation (and that is quite a few if not most), began to allow liberal interpretations of creation and the acceptance of evolution so as not to seem ridged and controlling. The science departments allowed evolutionists to eventually head the departments in an effort to promote investigation and "modern" research and study. This was all done in the name of a well rounded education; however, the evolutionists (once they gained control of the science departments) began to exclude and eliminate anyone who stood against their interpretation of the data. This continued until everyone who considered Biblical investigations of value retied or left. All one has to do is read the threads (even here) to find that evolutionists are very exclusive and make fun of everything Creationists have to say, EVEN when creationist findings are proven. The issue at stake is if GOD exists. Evolutionists do not need GOD (or so they have concluded). And most evolutionist are at best agnostics with little desire to rock their boat, which has becoame a cozy home for them from which to preach their Cosmos Tales. Personally, I have no problem with Christians working with atheists. The problem is that atheists do not like Chrisitan thought and wish to shove it into ones personal closet and away from public display... That cannot be denied.
Creationism is religion, a belief.
NOTHING evolution teaches attacks any religion in any way.
Evolution is science and subject to the scientific method.
10,000 colleges and universities teach evolution AS FACT.
2 teach it as not fact.
Any argument other than the theory of evolution is fact based on over 100 years of being subjected to the scientific method and that 9998 colleges and universities are all liberal for teaching it as fact is ignorant.
Read the Dover v. Kitzmiller case and get back to us. In that case a conservative Republican Bush appointed Federal Judge ruled that creationism/ID is a fraud when taught as scientific fact. They almost brought perjury charges against the witnesses for the creation team that fought the case attempting to teach creationism as fact in the public schools.
If creationism is something other than a religious belief why did your team have to lie in open court and depositions.
ID is repackaged creationism.
Science should be teaching the facts and not assumptions. Hypotheses should not be limited to only secular opinions.Creationists want their theory taught in secular schools.
That's like asking Secular science be preached in Churches.
The search for truth is the entire reason for education to exist. If all one is looking for is a secular excuse for living, why bother teaching anything at all? And the fact remains that both home schoolers and christian institutions are coming under pressure to teach "secular" theories, while all the secular institution need only explain secular opinions.
If you are really, seriously searching for scientific truth then religion should be taught in religion or philosophy class.
Never in science class as that would not be searching for the truth.
Religious beliefs are never science.
You can never prove or disprove beliefs.
Beliefs are not science.
Why Do Evolutionists Attack "Creationsists"
Straw man alert number 2AQ974ZT652X96!
It is fallacious to say evolutionists attack creationists, and leave it at that. It is actually creationists who have been attacking and trying to deface and debunk science since its inception. Any explanations that rivaled the churches were banished. It seems as if theists are programmed to believe they are the victims When in fact, they are the insecure aggressors.
Very true.
Its also an effort on the part of creationists to conjoin church and state in violation of the First Amendment, an attempt to codify Christian dogma into secular laws. Its perfectly appropriate for Americans to defend their religious freedoms when attacked by creationists and others on the radical Christian right.
Proof of creationists desire to conjoin church and state is found in the case of Edwards v. Aguillard (1987), where the Supreme Court ruled that creationism was indeed religion, that its being taught in Louisiana public schools was in violation of the Establishment Clause, and where the laws intent was to only foster religious practice, not to further a legitimate secular purpose.
You have that backwards. It is the Creationists who have been attacking the Evolutionists. The Creationists are tyhe ones who have no proof, no evidence, to back up their claim and all they can do is attack evolution. They've been doing that since the time of Darwin.
You have it BACKWARDS! Every college and university that boasts a Christian foundation (and that is quite a few if not most), began to allow liberal interpretations of creation and the acceptance of evolution so as not to seem ridged and controlling. The science departments allowed evolutionists to eventually head the departments in an effort to promote investigation and "modern" research and study. This was all done in the name of a well rounded education; however, the evolutionists (once they gained control of the science departments) began to exclude and eliminate anyone who stood against their interpretation of the data. This continued until everyone who considered Biblical investigations of value retied or left. All one has to do is read the threads (even here) to find that evolutionists are very exclusive and make fun of everything Creationists have to say, EVEN when creationist findings are proven. The issue at stake is if GOD exists. Evolutionists do not need GOD (or so they have concluded). And most evolutionist are at best agnostics with little desire to rock their boat, which has becoame a cozy home for them from which to preach their Cosmos Tales. Personally, I have no problem with Christians working with atheists. The problem is that atheists do not like Chrisitan thought and wish to shove it into ones personal closet and away from public display... That cannot be denied.
You have that backwards. It is the Creationists who have been attacking the Evolutionists. The Creationists are tyhe ones who have no proof, no evidence, to back up their claim and all they can do is attack evolution. They've been doing that since the time of Darwin.
You have it BACKWARDS! Every college and university that boasts a Christian foundation (and that is quite a few if not most), began to allow liberal interpretations of creation and the acceptance of evolution so as not to seem ridged and controlling. The science departments allowed evolutionists to eventually head the departments in an effort to promote investigation and "modern" research and study. This was all done in the name of a well rounded education; however, the evolutionists (once they gained control of the science departments) began to exclude and eliminate anyone who stood against their interpretation of the data. This continued until everyone who considered Biblical investigations of value retied or left. All one has to do is read the threads (even here) to find that evolutionists are very exclusive and make fun of everything Creationists have to say, EVEN when creationist findings are proven. The issue at stake is if GOD exists. Evolutionists do not need GOD (or so they have concluded). And most evolutionist are at best agnostics with little desire to rock their boat, which has becoame a cozy home for them from which to preach their Cosmos Tales. Personally, I have no problem with Christians working with atheists. The problem is that atheists do not like Chrisitan thought and wish to shove it into ones personal closet and away from public display... That cannot be denied.
You are correct that colleges, even the ones that are based on religion, are teaching evolution, but that isn't an attack on creationism. That is simply teaching science. What the creationists do is attack evolution DIRECTLY, and they do it constantly.
You're wrong buck-o.
Because they are backwards rubes who when it comes down to it prefer to believe in magic.Why Do Evolutionists Attack "Creationsists"
Sounds worthy of attack to me.
And I suppose you don't drink until you're blind drunk, smoke cigarettes like a chimney, and sport a dumb tatt that you'll be sorry for in 15 -20 years. So, that accounts for you're sophistication and intelligence --- I'm so impressed.
You have it BACKWARDS! Every college and university that boasts a Christian foundation (and that is quite a few if not most), began to allow liberal interpretations of creation and the acceptance of evolution so as not to seem ridged and controlling. The science departments allowed evolutionists to eventually head the departments in an effort to promote investigation and "modern" research and study. This was all done in the name of a well rounded education; however, the evolutionists (once they gained control of the science departments) began to exclude and eliminate anyone who stood against their interpretation of the data. This continued until everyone who considered Biblical investigations of value retied or left. All one has to do is read the threads (even here) to find that evolutionists are very exclusive and make fun of everything Creationists have to say, EVEN when creationist findings are proven. The issue at stake is if GOD exists. Evolutionists do not need GOD (or so they have concluded). And most evolutionist are at best agnostics with little desire to rock their boat, which has becoame a cozy home for them from which to preach their Cosmos Tales. Personally, I have no problem with Christians working with atheists. The problem is that atheists do not like Chrisitan thought and wish to shove it into ones personal closet and away from public display... That cannot be denied.
You are correct that colleges, even the ones that are based on religion, are teaching evolution, but that isn't an attack on creationism. That is simply teaching science. What the creationists do is attack evolution DIRECTLY, and they do it constantly.
You're wrong buck-o.
Sorry, but then these same institutions should be helping in any research to prove Creationism is correct and encouraging thinking outside the establishment box --- just as many Christians did long-ago for secular scientists. Keep the playing field equal and not exclusive or dogmatic. This is what will promote true learning and not mere memorization.
What this cartoon is really saying is that Christians should not be allowed to say anything that is contrary with what anyone wishes to do. Believe whatever you wish, just don't tell anybody --- you may offend them and hurt their feelings.
Sorry, but then these same institutions should be helping in any research to prove Creationism is correct and encouraging thinking outside the establishment box --- just as many Christians did long-ago for secular scientists. Keep the playing field equal and not exclusive or dogmatic. This is what will promote true learning and not mere memorization
(i.e., anyone who questions their politically correct dogma) as a means of defending their own position? Is arguing that the earth is more than 6,000 years old the best they can do? I don't care if we descended from apes or not, but the currently popular "explanation" that inter-species transformation simply "occurs" over "millions of years" is profoundly dissatisfying, particularly in the complete absence of supporting archeological evidence.
Even the biological definition of "species" has been changed to fit this narrative: It used to be that different species would be unable to mate and have offspring capable of further reproduction (e.g., horses and donkeys producing sterile mules). Now this has changed to muddy the distinction between localized adaptations (like polar bears) and separate,genetically incompatible species. Thus have been created "hybrid species" and other euphemistic terms for dealing with these unanswered questions.
The longest running biological experiment in human history has been the specialization of dog breeds over the past 5,000 years, resulting in the greatest size variation (100+ times) of any animal that has every existed on Earth. But at the end of the day, they are all still dogs biologically capable of producing viable offspring. Why haven't they developed into different species?
Sorry, but then these same institutions should be helping in any research to prove Creationism is correct and encouraging thinking outside the establishment box --- just as many Christians did long-ago for secular scientists. Keep the playing field equal and not exclusive or dogmatic. This is what will promote true learning and not mere memorization.
