Why do democrats want more people on foodstamps and welfare

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    just socialization of a national tax cut for the rich that the People get to pay for through increased debt?
     
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    The right wing doesn't really believe in Capitalism, all talk is all they have.
     
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    Exactly

    More rob from the poor and pass it on to the rich
     
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    Dear Hal-9000 as you can see from posts
    between danielpalos me and others on the other thread about "problem with liberals"
    the liberals like DP
    do NOT believe that nonprofit charities and churches are
    universally accessible and stable/sustainable enough to be relied on
    to meet "equal protections" of the "general welfare" of all people EQUALLY.

    relying on private sector and nonprofit/charity as free choices
    does not "guarantee" to liberals that all people will be protected.

    and liberals like danielpalos believe that health care is an inseparable
    inalienable part of "general welfare" to the point this does not need to be
    spelled out by law in writing, these liberals just believe that; similar to
    how prolife people believe unborn lives are included in right to life and don't
    need to be "spelled out or established by law" in order to be included inherently by nature.

    Liberals like danielpalos do not get that freedom of choice
    and right to individual liberties not being "deprived without due process"
    applies to health care and other social support
    that they believe is required for "equal justice under law"

    Part of the reason is most people who do believe that the
    church and nonprofit charities ARE enough to support people locally and universally
    tend to be CHRISTIAN so they tend to rely on their churches OUTSIDE the govt.

    Liberals who are not organized through their churches to provide stable
    sustainable support believe in GOING THROUGH GOVT to have this
    same level of support collectively that Christians on the right get from their
    church and business networks they use INSTEAD OF GOVT.

    In general Liberals who do not rely on God and relations with God to govern
    social relations, institutions and choices RELY ON GOVT as their
    central authority. So that's why they appear to "worship Govt and
    Judges on the Bench" as their Popes and source of laws. That's why
    they rely on the Supreme Court to establish what are "rights".

    They don't use God so they use Govt as the central authority for
    their secular beliefs in order to establish collective truth, will and rights for the people.

    While Christians Conservatives and Constitutionalists on the right
    connect directly with each other and with God through Christ or through
    Constitutional laws and principles to establish truth and justice,
    where people make agreements first, and then these contracts become law through govt AFTERWARDS.

    The liberals use Govt to establish and impose collective policy for the people
    instead of building a consensus among the people "or the church body"
    and then having govt represent or reflect that consent of the governed people.
     
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    Nor does the leftwing live up to "free choice" and "right to choose" danielpalos
    but abuses govt to establish, dictate, mandate, regulate and penalize choices for people.
    So this isn't "free choice" either.

    Two wrongs don't make it right.
    So the people get screwed by both parties,
    unless we band together and hold both left and right
    to Constitutional checks balances and limits on govt.

    see www.ethics-commission.net


    Where the parties' political beliefs are not shared by the public
    or consented to by all the taxpayers, we need to team up and
    demand/require that parties pay for their own programs and
    promises they represent to their constituents or else it's fraud on donors
    and supporters. If companies are required to provide the goods and services
    they advertise to patrons who invest or pay their money there,
    so should political parties be held to provide the services and
    benefits they advertise to their members. Why aren't we demanding this
    instead of letting the party leaders lie and get away with billions in fraud?
     
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    Most food stamp recipients DO have jobs. Are you really that stupid or is it an act to get on SS.
     
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    Dear, it is about actually solving simple socio-economic problems rather than merely help the rich get richer by covering their multitudes of sins.
     
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    special pleading can be a form of diversion. a general welfare clause is more comprehensive than a common defense clause.

    why not end the entitlement spending of our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror. Only the right wing claims we need them but won't raise taxes to pay for them.
     
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    We will not see a reduction in foodstamps or welfare until we can get employers to pay higher wages to low skilled workers

    Cutting their taxes in half will obviously not do it
     
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    Maybe if your low skilled workers came into this country legally things would improve.
     

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