Why do democrats want more people on foodstamps and welfare

Why do conservatives make shit up and lie all the time ?
Why do you deny what you are and what you believe in?

Belief that a social safety net is necessary and helpful is not the same thing as wanting people poor and dependent.

Your OP is based on a fallacy, but then you knew that when you posted it. If you didn’t know it was a lie, you’re too stupid to bother with.
You are so stupid that you voted for Hillary Clinton and think she really won, then conceded to the loser.

This is retarded
 
So do we on the right. It's just that we want those people to be worth more money--not force industry to pay them more money than they are worth.

There will always be about 20 percent of the population in low skilled jobs. Either through a lack of capability to do more or the need for those jobs

Those jobs used to pay enough so the workers could support themselves without government help. They no longer do

Because anybody can do those jobs. The more people that will come in and do your job, the less value you have. Therefore the only option is to make your labor worth more money to employers.
Exactly

They have no bargaining power
Not that the job is not worth more, but low skilled employees have no leverage in demanding more pay

This allows employers to exploit those employees while the taxpayer makes up the difference

Government used to stand up for these employees through a minimum wage......they haven't looked out for them in nine years

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!
Providing for the general welfare means taking care of them.
It’s not the federal governments job...
 
Why do conservatives make shit up and lie all the time ?
Why do you deny what you are and what you believe in?

Belief that a social safety net is necessary and helpful is not the same thing as wanting people poor and dependent.

Your OP is based on a fallacy, but then you knew that when you posted it. If you didn’t know it was a lie, you’re too stupid to bother with.
You are so stupid that you voted for Hillary Clinton and think she really won, then conceded to the loser.

This is retarded

You’re so stupid that you think I voted in an American election.

I didn’t say “she won”. I said the American people voted for Clinton. What part of that isn’t correct or true?
 
As a Dem, I want more people working jobs where they don't need government assistance

So do we on the right. It's just that we want those people to be worth more money--not force industry to pay them more money than they are worth.

There will always be about 20 percent of the population in low skilled jobs. Either through a lack of capability to do more or the need for those jobs

Those jobs used to pay enough so the workers could support themselves without government help. They no longer do

Because anybody can do those jobs. The more people that will come in and do your job, the less value you have. Therefore the only option is to make your labor worth more money to employers.
Exactly

They have no bargaining power
Not that the job is not worth more, but low skilled employees have no leverage in demanding more pay

This allows employers to exploit those employees while the taxpayer makes up the difference

Government used to stand up for these employees through a minimum wage......they haven't looked out for them in nine years

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!
It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln
 
So do we on the right. It's just that we want those people to be worth more money--not force industry to pay them more money than they are worth.

There will always be about 20 percent of the population in low skilled jobs. Either through a lack of capability to do more or the need for those jobs

Those jobs used to pay enough so the workers could support themselves without government help. They no longer do

Because anybody can do those jobs. The more people that will come in and do your job, the less value you have. Therefore the only option is to make your labor worth more money to employers.
Exactly

They have no bargaining power
Not that the job is not worth more, but low skilled employees have no leverage in demanding more pay

This allows employers to exploit those employees while the taxpayer makes up the difference

Government used to stand up for these employees through a minimum wage......they haven't looked out for them in nine years

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!
It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?
 
There will always be about 20 percent of the population in low skilled jobs. Either through a lack of capability to do more or the need for those jobs

Those jobs used to pay enough so the workers could support themselves without government help. They no longer do

Because anybody can do those jobs. The more people that will come in and do your job, the less value you have. Therefore the only option is to make your labor worth more money to employers.
Exactly

They have no bargaining power
Not that the job is not worth more, but low skilled employees have no leverage in demanding more pay

This allows employers to exploit those employees while the taxpayer makes up the difference

Government used to stand up for these employees through a minimum wage......they haven't looked out for them in nine years

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!
It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

That is for We the People to decide
 
Not the way you're misinterpreting it. The employer is under no obligation to hire you, even if you were to apply.
Employment is at-will. I would be naturally unemployed and should qualify for unemployment compensation.

And, EDD should have to prove, for-cause employment to deny and disparage benefits.

You can choose to not work. Society has chosen to not pay you for doing so.
Only illegals to the law. The law is, employment at will. Why does the right wing have a problem being legal to the law?

Dude, your smoke fogged interpretation means nothing. You have no right to the public purse. You can work, do it.
dear, providing for the general welfare, makes it a dis-pursable issue.

How's that working out for you?
 
Because anybody can do those jobs. The more people that will come in and do your job, the less value you have. Therefore the only option is to make your labor worth more money to employers.
Exactly

They have no bargaining power
Not that the job is not worth more, but low skilled employees have no leverage in demanding more pay

This allows employers to exploit those employees while the taxpayer makes up the difference

Government used to stand up for these employees through a minimum wage......they haven't looked out for them in nine years

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!
It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

That is for We the People to decide

And we decided. President Trump with a Republican House and Senate.
 
Exactly

They have no bargaining power
Not that the job is not worth more, but low skilled employees have no leverage in demanding more pay

This allows employers to exploit those employees while the taxpayer makes up the difference

Government used to stand up for these employees through a minimum wage......they haven't looked out for them in nine years

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!
It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

That is for We the People to decide

And we decided. President Trump with a Republican House and Senate.
Then have Republicans repeal all welfare and Social Security and Medicare

Go for it
 
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Isn't it better for Americans to have jobs and self respect?

Democratic Party on Welfare & Poverty
Food stamps and welfare checks buy loyal voters. People with jobs aren't gonna vote for politicians who give out free stuff to people who won't work.
You are against giving free stuff to people who don't work and you're against paying them enough to live on if they do work.


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There will always be about 20 percent of the population in low skilled jobs. Either through a lack of capability to do more or the need for those jobs

Those jobs used to pay enough so the workers could support themselves without government help. They no longer do

Because anybody can do those jobs. The more people that will come in and do your job, the less value you have. Therefore the only option is to make your labor worth more money to employers.
Exactly

They have no bargaining power
Not that the job is not worth more, but low skilled employees have no leverage in demanding more pay

This allows employers to exploit those employees while the taxpayer makes up the difference

Government used to stand up for these employees through a minimum wage......they haven't looked out for them in nine years

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!
It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.
 
Here’s what conservatives say .

“Screw Big government, screw safety nets !”

Then a hurricane hits red state Texas and Florida . Suddenly it’s “big government save me! Where’s my fema welfare check! “
 
Because anybody can do those jobs. The more people that will come in and do your job, the less value you have. Therefore the only option is to make your labor worth more money to employers.
Exactly

They have no bargaining power
Not that the job is not worth more, but low skilled employees have no leverage in demanding more pay

This allows employers to exploit those employees while the taxpayer makes up the difference

Government used to stand up for these employees through a minimum wage......they haven't looked out for them in nine years

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!
It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.
 
Exactly

They have no bargaining power
Not that the job is not worth more, but low skilled employees have no leverage in demanding more pay

This allows employers to exploit those employees while the taxpayer makes up the difference

Government used to stand up for these employees through a minimum wage......they haven't looked out for them in nine years

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!
It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.
Having taxpayers support their workers is coddling employers
 
Here’s what conservatives say .

“Screw Big government, screw safety nets !”

Then a hurricane hits red state Texas and Florida . Suddenly it’s “big government save me! Where’s my fema welfare check! “

Who ever said screw safety nets?
 
Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!
It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.
Having taxpayers support their workers is coddling employers

That's why we should not be supporting them. It has nothing to do with who pays what. Businesses didn't create welfare requirements--Democrats did, so put the blame where it rightfully belongs.
 
Here’s what conservatives say .

“Screw Big government, screw safety nets !”

Then a hurricane hits red state Texas and Florida . Suddenly it’s “big government save me! Where’s my fema welfare check! “
Bigger the gubmint the less money they is. Economics 101.
 
Exactly

They have no bargaining power
Not that the job is not worth more, but low skilled employees have no leverage in demanding more pay

This allows employers to exploit those employees while the taxpayer makes up the difference

Government used to stand up for these employees through a minimum wage......they haven't looked out for them in nine years

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!
It is a government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

So says Abe Lincoln

Did he say anything about coddling the people or cradle to grave government?

Giving people a fair wage is “coddling” them? What about the notion of protecting people from exploitation?

Why should the middle class be required to subsidize low wage workers for the most profitable corporations in the world?

If you can’t afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn’t be in business. Period.

Businesses don't start for the reason to pay people a living wage. Businesses start to create a product or service for a profit.

Until there is a law that states a business cannot exist unless they pay a living wage (whatever that is) then anybody has the right to start or own a business paying what they desire.

Yes, government forcing industry to pay wages they demand is coddling people. It's not up to government to make businesses pay you more than you are worth, it's up to you to make yourself worth more to business.

It's far more honest to create cradle to grave welfare programs than to force companies to be welfare distribution centers.
 
There will always be about 20 percent of the population in low skilled jobs. Either through a lack of capability to do more or the need for those jobs

Those jobs used to pay enough so the workers could support themselves without government help. They no longer do

Because anybody can do those jobs. The more people that will come in and do your job, the less value you have. Therefore the only option is to make your labor worth more money to employers.
Exactly

They have no bargaining power
Not that the job is not worth more, but low skilled employees have no leverage in demanding more pay

This allows employers to exploit those employees while the taxpayer makes up the difference

Government used to stand up for these employees through a minimum wage......they haven't looked out for them in nine years

Our federal government is not there to look out for people, our federal government is there to govern. Our founders wanted people looking out for themselves, their family, and perhaps their neighbors.

If the federal government is going to force people to pay what the government wants, the next thing you know they will be forcing people to do other things like how much to pay for a car, how much to pay for a home, how much they should pay for healthcare insurance.............whoops!
Providing for the general welfare means taking care of them.
It’s not the federal governments job...
Yes, it is.
 

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