Why do conservatives think that life has inherent value?

Pedro de San Patricio

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This is false. Nothing has "inherent" value because nothing is objective. Everything is ultimately a subjective, relative opinion rooted in culture. The only value life may have is that assigned to it by the local culture, which typically occurs through the decisions of its government. A particular life has "value" because the government decides that it does and enforces that decision with the legal system. This is why killing and murder are two different things. All murder is killing, but not all killing is murder. Non-murderous killing is the killing of a legally unprotected life, which is morally neutral at worst because the state has not seen fit to declare that life worthy of protection. There are times when killing is the morally upright thing to do, such as in the case of an intruder into your body or home. You have the right to self defense, whether against an unwanted and hence valueless fetus or an unwanted and hence valueless guest.
 
I have never read more driveling nonsense in My entire life.......and I've seen some shit go down in My time...
 
I have a feeling it would be a different story if the OP was the one about to be killed (or a close family member).
 
This is false. Nothing has "inherent" value because nothing is objective. Everything is ultimately a subjective, relative opinion rooted in culture. The only value life may have is that assigned to it by the local culture, which typically occurs through the decisions of its government. A particular life has "value" because the government decides that it does and enforces that decision with the legal system. This is why killing and murder are two different things. All murder is killing, but not all killing is murder. Non-murderous killing is the killing of a legally unprotected life, which is morally neutral at worst because the state has not seen fit to declare that life worthy of protection. There are times when killing is the morally upright thing to do, such as in the case of an intruder into your body or home. You have the right to self defense, whether against an unwanted and hence valueless fetus or an unwanted and hence valueless guest.
What makes you think you know what conservatives think?
 
This is false. Nothing has "inherent" value because nothing is objective. Everything is ultimately a subjective, relative opinion rooted in culture. The only value life may have is that assigned to it by the local culture, which typically occurs through the decisions of its government. A particular life has "value" because the government decides that it does and enforces that decision with the legal system. This is why killing and murder are two different things. All murder is killing, but not all killing is murder. Non-murderous killing is the killing of a legally unprotected life, which is morally neutral at worst because the state has not seen fit to declare that life worthy of protection. There are times when killing is the morally upright thing to do, such as in the case of an intruder into your body or home. You have the right to self defense, whether against an unwanted and hence valueless fetus or an unwanted and hence valueless guest.
What makes you think you know what conservatives think?

I tried to read that nonsense and gave up halfway through
 
This is false. Nothing has "inherent" value because nothing is objective. Everything is ultimately a subjective, relative opinion rooted in culture. The only value life may have is that assigned to it by the local culture, which typically occurs through the decisions of its government. A particular life has "value" because the government decides that it does and enforces that decision with the legal system. This is why killing and murder are two different things. All murder is killing, but not all killing is murder. Non-murderous killing is the killing of a legally unprotected life, which is morally neutral at worst because the state has not seen fit to declare that life worthy of protection. There are times when killing is the morally upright thing to do, such as in the case of an intruder into your body or home. You have the right to self defense, whether against an unwanted and hence valueless fetus or an unwanted and hence valueless guest.

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So in contrast you're saying that all progressives think life has no inherent value.

That sounds familiar...

*****SMILE*****



:)
 
If you think that, then why not off yourself and get out of normal people's faces?
Hey cool. Proof that conservatives don't really think that in the first response.

What makes you think you know what conservatives think?
They claim to think this.

Go sell this crap to the black lives matter.....let me know how that goes
Black lives do matter. The government says they do, which is why they have personhood.

I tried to read that nonsense and gave up halfway through
For the illiterate, the basic point of the OP was this: All murder is killing. Not all killing is murder. Murder is the killing of a life deemed to have value by the state. It is wrong. Killing is the ending of a life. Non-murderous killing is morally neutral because the state has not defined that life as having value.
 
hmmm,


So...

Black Lives don't matter,

White Lives don't matter,

Blue Lives don't matter,

Lives don't matter?
 
You have nailed it right on the head, Pedro, you have admitted the truth that most leftists are afraid to say out loud.

The answer is this: if you don't believe there is a God, then the state recognizes itself as the highest power, with the power to take human life with total impunity.

And that is what happened with the Nazis and Communists. Once these groups rejected God, there was no way to stop their genocides and wars of conquest.

If you are an atheist, you may still beleive it is wrong to kill people. But as you think it over, you will find there is no foundation for that belief -- other than the existence of God.
 
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So in contrast you're saying that all progressives think life has no inherent value.

That sounds familiar...

*****SMILE*****



:)
And of course conservatives immediately equate right wing Nazism with left wing Progressivism when they're the exact opposite of each other. The GOP is far more similar to the Nazi party than any other US political party.
 
hmmm,


So...

Black Lives don't matter,

White Lives don't matter,

Blue Lives don't matter,

Lives don't matter?
Black people have personhood because the government gave it to them. With personhood comes recognized value. Nobody has ever defined white people as not having personhood or value. This is not about classes. This is about individuals. The value of the individual is defined by the authority of the state. Life has no inherent value because "inherent" implies an adherence to natural law, which is a long debunked conservative claim. We know that we live in a relative universe. We know that morality is grey and undefined until humans define it.

Ask Hillary if the life of her daughters fetus had value.
A fetus is not true life. It has no personhood. The state has clearly defined it as not having value. It does after birth. Not before. It's the difference between an acorn and an oak tree.
 
In the United States, we were founded by a document called the Declaration of Independence, which stated

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

Declaration of Independence - Text Transcript

The Founders did not explicitly invoke the power of the Christian God, but did make it clear that the existence of a Creator God was necessary as a foundation for freedom of the individuals.

And by the way, the Nazis favored an all powerful state, with one leader with total control of the nation. No conservative ever believed in that, so it is ridiculous to call the Nazis "right wing."
 
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So in contrast you're saying that all progressives think life has no inherent value.

That sounds familiar...

*****SMILE*****



:)
And of course conservatives immediately equate right wing Nazism with left wing Progressivism when they're the exact opposite of each other. The GOP is far more similar to the Nazi party than any other US political party.


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Looks like the liberal Democrats aren't far behind them when it comes to looking like Nazi's.

Has your blood soaked Nobel Champion Of Peace bombed any sovereign nations lately without Congressional approval thereby murdering thousands of innocent people?

Can you say WAR CRIMINAL?

******CHUCKLE*****



:)
 
If you think that, then why not off yourself and get out of normal people's faces?
Hey cool. Proof that conservatives don't really think that in the first response.

What makes you think you know what conservatives think?
They claim to think this.

Go sell this crap to the black lives matter.....let me know how that goes
Black lives do matter. The government says they do, which is why they have personhood.

I tried to read that nonsense and gave up halfway through
For the illiterate, the basic point of the OP was this: All murder is killing. Not all killing is murder. Murder is the killing of a life deemed to have value by the state. It is wrong. Killing is the ending of a life. Non-murderous killing is morally neutral because the state has not defined that life as having value.

You double downed on nonsense
 
Pedro, you beliefs make you a moral monster. However, I am glad you are being honest. You are telling a truth that most leftists try to hide.
 

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