Why do Americans want European style Entitlements?

[peach174]

Do most Americans have any idea what it is like to live in Europe?
Due to Entitlements they have Basic comfort but the trade off is atrocious.
High prices on everything from gas, to food, to clothes and housing and products.

Living with basic comfort gives you no innovation,no ambition,no desire to achieve and when you get the idea in your head to achieve, the gov. treats you with drugs to tamper the urger's down.
There is no competition and you are always discouraged.
It is very boring to live in Europe.

The living conditions there are horrible.

They have small living spaces with no closets, no bathroom cabinets.
They have no clothes dryer, why? Because of the cost in energy, no space to put one and it's not enviro friendly.
They dry their clothes inside their small apartments most of the time because of the weather and it takes 10 hours for them to dry.
They have no carpets, just rugs
They have small refrigerators like the ones used in college dorms.
They have no A/C or ice makers.
The plumbing sucks.
They have no screens on their windows because their windows can swing 360 degrees.
Bugs fly into your place.
This is the results for being taken care of by the government.

Why would any American want to live this way?
Freedom is much better than government taking care of you from cradle to grave.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Progressives love the idea of an urban utopia where everyone is crammed into high rises like sardines.

 

[rightwinger]

Its all relative

They also get a free college education, ample time to be with their families, you wont lose your home if you become ill.

Its a tradeoff in what you want from life

 

[Skull Pilot]

Its all relative

They also get a free college education, ample time to be with their families, you wont lose your home if you become ill.

Its a tradeoff in what you want from life

Yeah I want to live in cramped overcrowded tenements just like the good ol' days

 

[High_Gravity]

Do most Americans have any idea what it is like to live in Europe?
Due to Entitlements they have Basic comfort but the trade off is atrocious.
High prices on everything from gas, to food, to clothes and housing and products.

Living with basic comfort gives you no innovation,no ambition,no desire to achieve and when you get the idea in your head to achieve, the gov. treats you with drugs to tamper the urger's down.
There is no competition and you are always discouraged.
It is very boring to live in Europe.

The living conditions there are horrible.

They have small living spaces with no closets, no bathroom cabinets.
They have no clothes dryer, why? Because of the cost in energy, no space to put one and it's not enviro friendly.
They dry their clothes inside their small apartments most of the time because of the weather and it takes 10 hours for them to dry.
They have no carpets, just rugs
They have small refrigerators like the ones used in college dorms.
They have no A/C or ice makers.
The plumbing sucks.
They have no screens on their windows because their windows can swing 360 degrees.
Bugs fly into your place.
This is the results for being taken care of by the government.

Why would any American want to live this way?
Freedom is much better than government taking care of you from cradle to grave.

I think most people that want to live like that have never left the US and are very niaeve and uneducated, I have been outside the US several times and I fine with how we live here.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Progressives love the idea of an urban utopia where everyone is crammed into high rises like sardines.

Nah, they just want the dream to come true. Just take a look at Detriot. Progressives have gotten into places like academics, govt., etc...that is how they teach this ridiculous fucked up utopian dream that always fails.

Just one more try, right? One more try and THIS time, we're gonna make it work! Fucking mental patients.

 

[kiwiman127]

According to this Forbes article, the US ranks 10th as the happiest nation following nine "socialist" countries.
The World's Happiest (And Saddest) Countries - Christopher Helman - Forbes

Now, what does that say?

 

[rightwinger]

Its all relative

They also get a free college education, ample time to be with their families, you wont lose your home if you become ill.

Its a tradeoff in what you want from life

Yeah I want to live in cramped overcrowded tenements just like the good ol' days

Excuse me...

I forgot today was Hyperbole Wednesday

 

[High_Gravity]

According to this Forbes article, the US ranks 10th as the happiest nation following nine "socialist" countries.
The World's Happiest (And Saddest) Countries - Christopher Helman - Forbes

Now, what does that say?

That doesn't really tell me much though, take a poll in North Korea or Iran and you will get results that say they are mostly happy also. I know those countries are not like that I am just saying.

 

[peach174]

It says that some don't know what freedom is.

We had a guy from Sweden, here on the board recently and he wants to move here because he says life if so boring there in Sweden.

 

[kiwiman127]

According to this Forbes article, the US ranks 10th as the happiest nation following nine "socialist" countries.
The World's Happiest (And Saddest) Countries - Christopher Helman - Forbes

Now, what does that say?

That doesn't really tell me much though, take a poll in North Korea or Iran and you will get results that say they are mostly happy also. I know those countries are not like that I am just saying.

What the poll does say is that's it's all relative.
Would Americans be happier if their healthcare costs were at the same level they are in 99% of the rest of the world? Damn straight they would be happier. In the rest of the world, nations negotiate the pricing of healthcare with healthcare providers, thus the cost per capita is about half what we pay in America and it doesn't cost taxes to do so.
Would Europeans be happier if they lived in McMansions like many Americans do, you bet!
It's all relative, isn't it?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

To be honest guys...seriously...America is not a republic anymore.
It is a Plutocracy.
And the end game of a plutocracy will be living like Europeans without the social benefits they have.
The middle class is vanishing right before our eyes. At this rate, the Europeans will be better off than us in another 10 years. (Especially if Obama wins again)

 

[Euro]

Do most Americans have any idea what it is like to live in Europe?
Due to Entitlements they have Basic comfort but the trade off is atrocious.
High prices on everything from gas, to food, to clothes and housing and products.

Living with basic comfort gives you no innovation,no ambition,no desire to achieve and when you get the idea in your head to achieve, the gov. treats you with drugs to tamper the urger's down.
There is no competition and you are always discouraged.
It is very boring to live in Europe.

The living conditions there are horrible.

They have small living spaces with no closets, no bathroom cabinets.
They have no clothes dryer, why? Because of the cost in energy, no space to put one and it's not enviro friendly.
They dry their clothes inside their small apartments most of the time because of the weather and it takes 10 hours for them to dry.
They have no carpets, just rugs
They have small refrigerators like the ones used in college dorms.
They have no A/C or ice makers.
The plumbing sucks.
They have no screens on their windows because their windows can swing 360 degrees.
Bugs fly into your place.
This is the results for being taken care of by the government.

Why would any American want to live this way?
Freedom is much better than government taking care of you from cradle to grave.

Europe is not so socialist, the map here is from 17.11.11. France are now red and Spain blue.

 

[High_Gravity]

According to this Forbes article, the US ranks 10th as the happiest nation following nine "socialist" countries.
The World's Happiest (And Saddest) Countries - Christopher Helman - Forbes

Now, what does that say?

That doesn't really tell me much though, take a poll in North Korea or Iran and you will get results that say they are mostly happy also. I know those countries are not like that I am just saying.

What the poll does say is that's it's all relative.
Would Americans be happier if their healthcare costs were at the same level they are in 99% of the rest of the world? Damn straight they would be happier. In the rest of the world, nations negotiate the pricing of healthcare with healthcare providers, thus the cost per capita is about half what we pay in America and it doesn't cost taxes to do so.
Would Europeans be happier if they lived in McMansions like many Americans do, you bet!
It's all relative, isn't it?

Free health care isn't all its cracked up to be, health care is free in Egypt but I wouldn't even take my dog to those shit hole hospitals.

 

[gallantwarrior]

I assure you that not all Americans, not even most, want European style socialism. I would suggest that those most ardent about achieving the same kind of social benefits are the same people who currently subsist by virtue of government handouts.

 

[peach174]

Do most Americans have any idea what it is like to live in Europe?
Due to Entitlements they have Basic comfort but the trade off is atrocious.
High prices on everything from gas, to food, to clothes and housing and products.

Living with basic comfort gives you no innovation,no ambition,no desire to achieve and when you get the idea in your head to achieve, the gov. treats you with drugs to tamper the urger's down.
There is no competition and you are always discouraged.
It is very boring to live in Europe.

The living conditions there are horrible.

They have small living spaces with no closets, no bathroom cabinets.
They have no clothes dryer, why? Because of the cost in energy, no space to put one and it's not enviro friendly.
They dry their clothes inside their small apartments most of the time because of the weather and it takes 10 hours for them to dry.
They have no carpets, just rugs
They have small refrigerators like the ones used in college dorms.
They have no A/C or ice makers.
The plumbing sucks.
They have no screens on their windows because their windows can swing 360 degrees.
Bugs fly into your place.
This is the results for being taken care of by the government.

Why would any American want to live this way?
Freedom is much better than government taking care of you from cradle to grave.

Europe is not so socialist, the map here is from 17.11.11. France are now red and Spain blue.

France just elected a new President that is a socialist. So they turned back to blue.

 

[Swagger]

Sorry, but is the OP testimony to the insular American consciousness and/or laughable education system?

Peach174,

It can be quite stimmulating living in Europe. We're actually encouraged to think for ourselves and not believe everything the television tells us.

I live in a house that I own (on a mortgage). I have several closets in my house. Assuming a "bathroom closet" is what we in Europe, not just mainland, call a toilet, I have two of those.

I own a tumble dryer (clothes dryer). And, depending on the weather, it normally takes about a couple of hours for our clothes to dry outside on the line. Didn't know there was ome kind of Trans-Atlantic competition on the time it takes to dry clothes.

I have carpets throughout the 1st floor and laminate flooring throughout the ground floor. My choice. The EU didn't dictate to me on how to furnish my house. Nor are they likely to.

I have an adequate refrigerator that's also plumbed. Can you say the same? There's also a chest freezer in the shed, that has working, non-subsidised lighting in it and everything.

I need neither A/C or an ice maker. Why would I?

Plumbing's fine. Pressure, too.

My windows open inwards like a door. I can take a picture if you like.

Bugs get in everywhere. They don't make exceptions based on what continent they're on.

Where do you get this nonsense?

Are you high?

 

[code1211]

According to this Forbes article, the US ranks 10th as the happiest nation following nine "socialist" countries.
The World's Happiest (And Saddest) Countries - Christopher Helman - Forbes

Now, what does that say?

I coulde say a bunch of stuff. For instance, it could mean that in the USA, the living conditions are horrible and the people see them for what they are and know for a fact that everybody else in the world bar none has it better and our lot in life just plain sucks.

It could also mean that no matter how good it is, people in the USA always see room for improvement and have learned through experience that if we just work a little harder, put in a little more effort and team up a little better with our peers, we can convert what's good into something better.

If yon Cassius is fat and happy, Ceasar lives. If he has a lean and hungry look, better wear a daggar proof vest. Ambition breeds best where there is room to grow.

 

[Euro]

Do most Americans have any idea what it is like to live in Europe?
Due to Entitlements they have Basic comfort but the trade off is atrocious.
High prices on everything from gas, to food, to clothes and housing and products.

Living with basic comfort gives you no innovation,no ambition,no desire to achieve and when you get the idea in your head to achieve, the gov. treats you with drugs to tamper the urger's down.
There is no competition and you are always discouraged.
It is very boring to live in Europe.

The living conditions there are horrible.

They have small living spaces with no closets, no bathroom cabinets.
They have no clothes dryer, why? Because of the cost in energy, no space to put one and it's not enviro friendly.
They dry their clothes inside their small apartments most of the time because of the weather and it takes 10 hours for them to dry.
They have no carpets, just rugs
They have small refrigerators like the ones used in college dorms.
They have no A/C or ice makers.
The plumbing sucks.
They have no screens on their windows because their windows can swing 360 degrees.
Bugs fly into your place.
This is the results for being taken care of by the government.

Why would any American want to live this way?
Freedom is much better than government taking care of you from cradle to grave.

Europe is not so socialist, the map here is from 17.11.11. France are now red and Spain blue.

France just elected a new President that is a socialist. So they turned back to blue.

The color are the opposites of what’s in USA. If you click the picture.

In Europe
Blue=Conservatives=right wing
Red=Socialist=left wing

 

[kiwiman127]

That doesn't really tell me much though, take a poll in North Korea or Iran and you will get results that say they are mostly happy also. I know those countries are not like that I am just saying.

What the poll does say is that's it's all relative.
Would Americans be happier if their healthcare costs were at the same level they are in 99% of the rest of the world? Damn straight they would be happier. In the rest of the world, nations negotiate the pricing of healthcare with healthcare providers, thus the cost per capita is about half what we pay in America and it doesn't cost taxes to do so.
Would Europeans be happier if they lived in McMansions like many Americans do, you bet!
It's all relative, isn't it?

Free health care isn't all its cracked up to be, health care is free in Egypt but I wouldn't eben take my dog to those shit hole hospitals.

Healthcare isn't exactly free in Europe, taxes pay for their socialistic system. But then again, their healthcare is as good as the US, it's just a hell of alot cheaper.
If the US adopted the concept of negotiating the healthcare prices, the American citizens and businesses would have much more expendable income and thusly strengthen our economy. Consumers would have more money to spend and businesses would have more capital to expand and hire more workers.