Why Did Roosevelt Extend WWII By 2 Years??

[CrusaderFrank]

And again we see the usual cognitive dissonance embodied in far right economic fantasies. FDR's Keynesian policies were 'failures', but magically war time Federal spending, coupled with rationing and a draft, are what 'ended the Depression'. Can't have it both ways, well, unless you're a ideologue with no grasp of reality or how ridiculously contradictory what you're claiming is.

2 whole terms of Keynesian failure

8 years 1933-1940

20% unemployment

Hitler ended the FDR depression

 

[regent]

FDR was a black period in American history.

His economy was a failed experiment in Central planning and gave us an economy worse than the Seven Biblical Lean Years.

His War Planning was an unmitigated disaster. It was so awful that Patton called the end of WWII a huge strategic failure for the USA and Brits, leaving "2 of the 3 greatest European capitals in the hands of the decedents of Genghis Khan" Eastern Europe slaved under the yoke of Soviet Communism for generation and our Stupid American Progressives view the liberation of Eastern Europe as a failure.

Roosevelt ended the Great Depression, and contributed to the defeat of the Axis powers. Life for most Americans began to improve almost as soon as he was inaugurated. That is why he was reelected three times, and why reactionaries in the Republican Party have never been able to repeal the reforms of the New Deal.

WWII ended the FDR Depression, you have to be totally brainwashed to believe anything else. FDR's Depression only lifted when Hitler conquered France and we started gearing up for war.

FDR had the worst 2 terms in American history, he averaged 20% unemployment for almost 8 whole years! Who did that help? Can't you count?

How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

Instead of being unemployed, guy joined the military...duh

And how many women went to work to replace the men in the military? Nope, so how did gearing up for war end the Great Depression any other ideas on

And again we see the usual cognitive dissonance embodied in far right economic fantasies. FDR's Keynesian policies were 'failures', but magically war time Federal spending, coupled with rationing and a draft, are what 'ended the Depression'. Can't have it both ways, well, unless you're a ideologue with no grasp of reality or how ridiculously contradictory what you're claiming is.

2 whole terms of Keynesian failure

8 years 1933-1940

20% unemployment

Hitler ended the FDR depression

So why do the top historians of our nation rank FDR as America's greatest president? Are they aware of your historical evidence? By the way Keynes and FDR did not see eye to eye, but FDR used the same concepts but only after the Congress prevented him from cutting government spending.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

FDR was a black period in American history.

His economy was a failed experiment in Central planning and gave us an economy worse than the Seven Biblical Lean Years.

His War Planning was an unmitigated disaster. It was so awful that Patton called the end of WWII a huge strategic failure for the USA and Brits, leaving "2 of the 3 greatest European capitals in the hands of the decedents of Genghis Khan" Eastern Europe slaved under the yoke of Soviet Communism for generation and our Stupid American Progressives view the liberation of Eastern Europe as a failure.

Roosevelt ended the Great Depression, and contributed to the defeat of the Axis powers. Life for most Americans began to improve almost as soon as he was inaugurated. That is why he was reelected three times, and why reactionaries in the Republican Party have never been able to repeal the reforms of the New Deal.

WWII ended the FDR Depression, you have to be totally brainwashed to believe anything else. FDR's Depression only lifted when Hitler conquered France and we started gearing up for war.

FDR had the worst 2 terms in American history, he averaged 20% unemployment for almost 8 whole years! Who did that help? Can't you count?

How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

Instead of being unemployed, guy joined the military...duh

And how many women went to work to replace the men in the military? Nope, so how did gearing up for war end the Great Depression any other ideas on

And again we see the usual cognitive dissonance embodied in far right economic fantasies. FDR's Keynesian policies were 'failures', but magically war time Federal spending, coupled with rationing and a draft, are what 'ended the Depression'. Can't have it both ways, well, unless you're a ideologue with no grasp of reality or how ridiculously contradictory what you're claiming is.

2 whole terms of Keynesian failure

8 years 1933-1940

20% unemployment

Hitler ended the FDR depression

So why do the top historians of our nation rank FDR as America's greatest president? Are they aware of your historical evidence? By the way Keynes and FDR did not see eye to eye, but FDR used the same concepts but only after the Congress prevented him from cutting government spending.

Because they're lying

 

[JoeB131]

And again we see the usual cognitive dissonance embodied in far right economic fantasies. FDR's Keynesian policies were 'failures', but magically war time Federal spending, coupled with rationing and a draft, are what 'ended the Depression'. Can't have it both ways, well, unless you're a ideologue with no grasp of reality or how ridiculously contradictory what you're claiming is.

2 whole terms of Keynesian failure

8 years 1933-1940

20% unemployment

Hitler ended the FDR depression

Meh, not really.

In fact, the Depression was over by 1935. The probelm was that FDR listened to the Assclowns who told him to cut back on spending which caused the 1937 recession. (The ignorant think the Great Depression was one long event throughout the 1930's, but it wasn't.)

The reality was, the New Deal was half-hearted Keynesian spending at best. World War II allowed the kind of government spending that the Keynesians really wanted.

 

[Picaro]

The economic slowdown in the 1920's actually started in 1927 for most Americans, and unemployment started rising, just a few years after the 1919-1921 recession after WW I. The stock market promised higher returns than investing in real businesses and sucked up money like a sponge, just like all the other 'booms' have, before and after the 1920's, including the current one. The economy began turning around within months of FDR's election, and by 1937 was almost back to pre-Depression levels of output.

As always, large increases in productivity rates caused employment to lag way behind, a recurrent problem throughout the 19th and 20th century, right up to today. Pile 'outsourcing' to 'business friendly' slave labor and sweatshop countries, like Red China and Viet Nam, Mexico, etc. through various scams like NAFTA, CAFTA, et al, and the domestic economy ends up with almost no connection to the Wall Street and Greenwich, Conn. economy people like Mitt Romney and Warren Buffet live in.

I see Frank weighed in to provide a fine example of the clueless cognitive dissonance I was talking about.

Thanks, Frank!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The economic slowdown in the 1920's actually started in 1927 for most Americans, and unemployment started rising, just a few years after the 1919-1921 recession after WW I. The stock market promised higher returns than investing in real businesses and sucked up money like a sponge, just like all the other 'booms' have, before and after the 1920's, including the current one. The economy began turning around within months of FDR's election, and by 1937 was almost back to pre-Depression levels of output.

As always, large increases in productivity rates caused employment to lag way behind, a recurrent problem throughout the 19th and 20th century, right up to today. Pile 'outsourcing' to 'business friendly' slave labor and sweatshop countries, like Red China and Viet Nam, Mexico, etc. through various scams like NAFTA, CAFTA, et al, and the domestic economy ends up with almost no connection to the Wall Street and Greenwich, Conn. economy people like Mitt Romney and Warren Buffet live in.

I see Frank weighed in to provide a fine example of the clueless cognitive dissonance I was talking about.

Thanks, Frank!

The one thing consistent throughout all Progressive thought is that it is founded on repeated and pathological lies. Once I fully understood just how pervasive this is, how it's down to the DNA level it became so much easier to deal with you fuckers.

I don't know if you're ignorant, misinformed or just plain stupid and it really makes no difference you got everything totally wrong. But again you can't get to the Imaginary Greatness of FDR unless you're a pathological liar. You also can only disparage the phenomenal record of Coolidge by being a fucking liar

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And again we see the usual cognitive dissonance embodied in far right economic fantasies. FDR's Keynesian policies were 'failures', but magically war time Federal spending, coupled with rationing and a draft, are what 'ended the Depression'. Can't have it both ways, well, unless you're a ideologue with no grasp of reality or how ridiculously contradictory what you're claiming is.

2 whole terms of Keynesian failure

8 years 1933-1940

20% unemployment

Hitler ended the FDR depression

Meh, not really.

In fact, the Depression was over by 1935. The probelm was that FDR listened to the Assclowns who told him to cut back on spending which caused the 1937 recession. (The ignorant think the Great Depression was one long event throughout the 1930's, but it wasn't.)

The reality was, the New Deal was half-hearted Keynesian spending at best. World War II allowed the kind of government spending that the Keynesians really wanted.

So Keynesian economics only works when you can eliminate tens of millions of men from the workforce through either conscription or mass murder

 

[regent]

Roosevelt ended the Great Depression, and contributed to the defeat of the Axis powers. Life for most Americans began to improve almost as soon as he was inaugurated. That is why he was reelected three times, and why reactionaries in the Republican Party have never been able to repeal the reforms of the New Deal.

WWII ended the FDR Depression, you have to be totally brainwashed to believe anything else. FDR's Depression only lifted when Hitler conquered France and we started gearing up for war.

FDR had the worst 2 terms in American history, he averaged 20% unemployment for almost 8 whole years! Who did that help? Can't you count?

How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

Instead of being unemployed, guy joined the military...duh

And how many women went to work to replace the men in the military? Nope, so how did gearing up for war end the Great Depression any other ideas on

And again we see the usual cognitive dissonance embodied in far right economic fantasies. FDR's Keynesian policies were 'failures', but magically war time Federal spending, coupled with rationing and a draft, are what 'ended the Depression'. Can't have it both ways, well, unless you're a ideologue with no grasp of reality or how ridiculously contradictory what you're claiming is.

2 whole terms of Keynesian failure

8 years 1933-1940

20% unemployment

Hitler ended the FDR depression

So why do the top historians of our nation rank FDR as America's greatest president? Are they aware of your historical evidence? By the way Keynes and FDR did not see eye to eye, but FDR used the same concepts but only after the Congress prevented him from cutting government spending.

Because they're lying

So many and for so long. Think of it since 1948, almost seventy years, America's most noted historians and experts on presidents all lying, including those historians that consider themselves conservatives. What is there about history that turns people into liars or commies?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

WWII ended the FDR Depression, you have to be totally brainwashed to believe anything else. FDR's Depression only lifted when Hitler conquered France and we started gearing up for war.

FDR had the worst 2 terms in American history, he averaged 20% unemployment for almost 8 whole years! Who did that help? Can't you count?

How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

Instead of being unemployed, guy joined the military...duh

And how many women went to work to replace the men in the military? Nope, so how did gearing up for war end the Great Depression any other ideas on

And again we see the usual cognitive dissonance embodied in far right economic fantasies. FDR's Keynesian policies were 'failures', but magically war time Federal spending, coupled with rationing and a draft, are what 'ended the Depression'. Can't have it both ways, well, unless you're a ideologue with no grasp of reality or how ridiculously contradictory what you're claiming is.

2 whole terms of Keynesian failure

8 years 1933-1940

20% unemployment

Hitler ended the FDR depression

So why do the top historians of our nation rank FDR as America's greatest president? Are they aware of your historical evidence? By the way Keynes and FDR did not see eye to eye, but FDR used the same concepts but only after the Congress prevented him from cutting government spending.

Because they're lying

So many and for so long. Think of it since 1948, almost seventy years, America's most noted historians and experts on presidents all lying, including those historians that consider themselves conservatives. What is there about history that turns people into liars or commies?

Look at the facts and the track record, FDR was a DISASTER! Had been been a real man like George Washington or Calvin Coolidge, he would have only served two terms. Instead he wanted to be like his Uncle Joe Stalin -- a dictator for life. So he got us into WWII after the end of his unmitigated disaster of a second term

 

[JoeB131]

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The one thing consistent throughout all Progressive thought is that it is founded on repeated and pathological lies. Once I fully understood just how pervasive this is, how it's down to the DNA level it became so much easier to deal with you fuckers.

I don't know if you're ignorant, misinformed or just plain stupid and it really makes no difference you got everything totally wrong. But again you can't get to the Imaginary Greatness of FDR unless you're a pathological liar. You also can only disparage the phenomenal record of Coolidge by being a fucking liar

Except most presidential surveys of historians list FDR in the top 3, and most of the same surveys put Coolidge in the bottom quarter.

Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[JoeB131]

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Look at the facts and the track record, FDR was a DISASTER! Had been been a real man like George Washington or Calvin Coolidge, he would have only served two terms. Instead he wanted to be like his Uncle Joe Stalin -- a dictator for life. So he got us into WWII after the end of his unmitigated disaster of a second term

If his second term was such a disaster, why did he not only win a third term, but win decisively?

He carried 38 states, with 449 electoral votes and won 55% of the electorate.

 

[JoeB131]

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In fact, the Depression was over by 1935. The probelm was that FDR listened to the Assclowns who told him to cut back on spending which caused the 1937 recession. (The ignorant think the Great Depression was one long event throughout the 1930's, but it wasn't.)

The reality was, the New Deal was half-hearted Keynesian spending at best. World War II allowed the kind of government spending that the Keynesians really wanted.

So Keynesian economics only works when you can eliminate tens of millions of men from the workforce through either conscription or mass murder

, but win decisively?

He carried 38 states, with 449 electoral votes and won 55% of the electorate.[/QUOTE]

When we truly implemented Keynesian economics in the 1950's and 1960's, we had our greatest prosperity. But discussing economics like you is like throwing pearls before swine.

If FDR wasn't a successful president, he certainly wouldn't have won re-election three times.

 

[gipper]

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Look at the facts and the track record, FDR was a DISASTER! Had been been a real man like George Washington or Calvin Coolidge, he would have only served two terms. Instead he wanted to be like his Uncle Joe Stalin -- a dictator for life. So he got us into WWII after the end of his unmitigated disaster of a second term

If his second term was such a disaster, why did he not only win a third term, but win decisively?

He carried 38 states, with 449 electoral votes and won 55% of the electorate.

Because....

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

Not unlike you being fooled by Big Ears, big government, Democrats, liberalism, socialism, AGW, and so much more.

It is clear YOU can be fooled ALL the time.

 

[JoeB131]

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Look at the facts and the track record, FDR was a DISASTER! Had been been a real man like George Washington or Calvin Coolidge, he would have only served two terms. Instead he wanted to be like his Uncle Joe Stalin -- a dictator for life. So he got us into WWII after the end of his unmitigated disaster of a second term

If his second term was such a disaster, why did he not only win a third term, but win decisively?

He carried 38 states, with 449 electoral votes and won 55% of the electorate.

Because....

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

Not unlike you being fooled by Big Ears, big government, Democrats, liberalism, socialism, AGW, and so much more.

It is clear YOU can be fooled ALL the time.

Again, guy, I didn't vote for Obama in 2008.

And the only reason why I voted for him in 2012 is because the GOP nominated a fucking MORMON.

And why would I believe in AGW? Oh, yeah, because I'm 52 years old, and I see that winters are a lot milder and summers a lot hotter than there were when I was a kid. Oh, yeah, and 95% of Climate Scientists say it is so.

 

[gipper]

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Look at the facts and the track record, FDR was a DISASTER! Had been been a real man like George Washington or Calvin Coolidge, he would have only served two terms. Instead he wanted to be like his Uncle Joe Stalin -- a dictator for life. So he got us into WWII after the end of his unmitigated disaster of a second term

If his second term was such a disaster, why did he not only win a third term, but win decisively?

He carried 38 states, with 449 electoral votes and won 55% of the electorate.

Because....

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

Not unlike you being fooled by Big Ears, big government, Democrats, liberalism, socialism, AGW, and so much more.

It is clear YOU can be fooled ALL the time.

Again, guy, I didn't vote for Obama in 2008.

And the only reason why I voted for him in 2012 is because the GOP nominated a fucking MORMON.

And why would I believe in AGW? Oh, yeah, because I'm 52 years old, and I see that winters are a lot milder and summers a lot hotter than there were when I was a kid. Oh, yeah, and 95% of Climate Scientists say it is so.

Now that last paragraph proves you can be fooled all the time.

Thank you for proving my point...though I suspect you are incapable of understanding your own foolishness.

 

[JoeB131]

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And why would I believe in AGW? Oh, yeah, because I'm 52 years old, and I see that winters are a lot milder and summers a lot hotter than there were when I was a kid. Oh, yeah, and 95% of Climate Scientists say it is so.

Now that last paragraph proves you can be fooled all the time.

Thank you for proving my point...though I suspect you are incapable of understanding your own foolishness.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, unlike Conservatards, I can analyze evidence.

"Why, that Science contradicts my world view!!! I reject Science!"

Evolution. Global Warming. Disagrees with your world-view and you reject it.

The rest of us don't have that luxury. We live in the real world.

 

[gipper]

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And why would I believe in AGW? Oh, yeah, because I'm 52 years old, and I see that winters are a lot milder and summers a lot hotter than there were when I was a kid. Oh, yeah, and 95% of Climate Scientists say it is so.

Now that last paragraph proves you can be fooled all the time.

Thank you for proving my point...though I suspect you are incapable of understanding your own foolishness.

Yeah, unlike Conservatards, I can analyze evidence.

"Why, that Science contradicts my world view!!! I reject Science!"

Evolution. Global Warming. Disagrees with your world-view and you reject it.

The rest of us don't have that luxury. We live in the real world.[/QUOTE]

Let me decode your response.

What you should have posted:
The elite Left says AGW is real...so I dutifully believe them.

 

[JoeB131]

Let me decode your response.

What you should have posted:
The elite Left says AGW is real...so I dutifully believe them.

No, I believe them because

1) They are scientists who specialize in the study of this issue, and 95% of them say this is a problem.

2) They can show me evidence proving their point- Higher temperatures, melting ice caps, melting permafrost, and so on.

3) I can see evidence in the context of my own life, where we had BRUTAL winters here in Chicago when I was growing up in the 1960's and 1970's, but the winters now... meh, not so much.

 

[gipper]

Let me decode your response.

What you should have posted:
The elite Left says AGW is real...so I dutifully believe them.

No, I believe them because

1) They are scientists who specialize in the study of this issue, and 95% of them say this is a problem.

2) They can show me evidence proving their point- Higher temperatures, melting ice caps, melting permafrost, and so on.

3) I can see evidence in the context of my own life, where we had BRUTAL winters here in Chicago when I was growing up in the 1960's and 1970's, but the winters now... meh, not so much.

There is a ton of evidence that clearly shows a lack of warming and that AGW is nothing more than a big government hoax.

I can't help you when you are blinded by propaganda.

AGW is politics...not science.

 

[regent]

Maybe schools should drop history from their curriculumns

The economic slowdown in the 1920's actually started in 1927 for most Americans, and unemployment started rising, just a few years after the 1919-1921 recession after WW I. The stock market promised higher returns than investing in real businesses and sucked up money like a sponge, just like all the other 'booms' have, before and after the 1920's, including the current one. The economy began turning around within months of FDR's election, and by 1937 was almost back to pre-Depression levels of output.

As always, large increases in productivity rates caused employment to lag way behind, a recurrent problem throughout the 19th and 20th century, right up to today. Pile 'outsourcing' to 'business friendly' slave labor and sweatshop countries, like Red China and Viet Nam, Mexico, etc. through various scams like NAFTA, CAFTA, et al, and the domestic economy ends up with almost no connection to the Wall Street and Greenwich, Conn. economy people like Mitt Romney and Warren Buffet live in.

I see Frank weighed in to provide a fine example of the clueless cognitive dissonance I was talking about.

Thanks, Frank!

The one thing consistent throughout all Progressive thought is that it is founded on repeated and pathological lies. Once I fully understood just how pervasive this is, how it's down to the DNA level it became so much easier to deal with you fuckers.

I don't know if you're ignorant, misinformed or just plain stupid and it really makes no difference you got everything totally wrong. But again you can't get to the Imaginary Greatness of FDR unless you're a pathological liar. You also can only disparage the phenomenal record of Coolidge by being a fucking liar

Why do schools even teach history if all historians are liars? Maybe history is a subject that should be dropped from schools along with some science courses and other subjects that raise controversy? Another solution might be two types of history courses: one type taught by historians and another by politicians. Come to think of it this could be my chance to teach medicine. Surely there is controversy in the medical field and I have lots of ideas on medicine. Doctor Regent, M.D. Sounds pretty good.
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