Why Did Roosevelt Extend WWII By 2 Years??

I've always believed that the war was extended so that Germany could exact the maximum economic and infrastructure damage on the USSR. The Soviets were decimated by the war, and Stalin was actually bitter because of the long delay of the allied invasion force. By the time the U.S was fully engaged, we had grown our industrial base to its full potential, the USSR was in shambles, and so was most of Europe (by 1945, the U.S. had fully 50% of the entire world's manufacturing).

The timing of the war's ending had the maximum potential outcome for the U.S.
 
FDR was a black period in American history.

His economy was a failed experiment in Central planning and gave us an economy worse than the Seven Biblical Lean Years.

His War Planning was an unmitigated disaster. It was so awful that Patton called the end of WWII a huge strategic failure for the USA and Brits, leaving "2 of the 3 greatest European capitals in the hands of the decedents of Genghis Khan" Eastern Europe slaved under the yoke of Soviet Communism for generation and our Stupid American Progressives view the liberation of Eastern Europe as a failure.

Roosevelt ended the Great Depression, and contributed to the defeat of the Axis powers. Life for most Americans began to improve almost as soon as he was inaugurated. That is why he was reelected three times, and why reactionaries in the Republican Party have never been able to repeal the reforms of the New Deal.

WWII ended the FDR Depression, you have to be totally brainwashed to believe anything else. FDR's Depression only lifted when Hitler conquered France and we started gearing up for war.

FDR had the worst 2 terms in American history, he averaged 20% unemployment for almost 8 whole years! Who did that help? Can't you count?
How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

Instead of being unemployed, guy joined the military...duh
 
How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

The GD was pretty scary. Frank is supporting the Ronald Reagan theory of deficit spending to pump your economy. Like myself he probably remembers that era. Charge tomorrow for today's prosperity. Not a crazy idea. Ppl with college loans or credit cards practice it

In the case of WWII it sure did help. Our competition in Europe and Asia was destroyed and boy did we lean how to ship things across the world. Couple that with cheap labor overseas and the Marshall plan and our standard of living sure did rise.

The GD arose out of a similar circumstance. WWI was not WWII but did not help. We experienced a similar era of prosperity but folks got out of control.

FDR went back to America's roots to dig us out. No longer could big government give away alternating parcals of land across the continent to get things done, or just give land away to those who found the cities of the industrial revolution distasteful and dirty. SO he created programs for everything and deficit spent just like Reagan. Well, FDR got power plants and stuff made which powered the sunbelt explosion (with a big nod to a/c).

Oh well. In general I love the New Deal. It was a scary time of socialist revolutions and seemingly failed capitalism, and we avoided one.

You got EVERYTHING Wrong. It's scary that you FDRbots just parrot back whatever you're instructed and never bother to learn anything for yourself.

You don't know dick about Reagan, FDR or basic economics so what's the fucking point of even "Debating" you
 
How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

The GD was pretty scary. Frank is supporting the Ronald Reagan theory of deficit spending to pump your economy. Like myself he probably remembers that era. Charge tomorrow for today's prosperity. Not a crazy idea. Ppl with college loans or credit cards practice it

In the case of WWII it sure did help. Our competition in Europe and Asia was destroyed and boy did we lean how to ship things across the world. Couple that with cheap labor overseas and the Marshall plan and our standard of living sure did rise.

The GD arose out of a similar circumstance. WWI was not WWII but did not help. We experienced a similar era of prosperity but folks got out of control.

FDR went back to America's roots to dig us out. No longer could big government give away alternating parcals of land across the continent to get things done, or just give land away to those who found the cities of the industrial revolution distasteful and dirty. SO he created programs for everything and deficit spent just like Reagan. Well, FDR got power plants and stuff made which powered the sunbelt explosion (with a big nod to a/c).

Oh well. In general I love the New Deal. It was a scary time of socialist revolutions and seemingly failed capitalism, and we avoided one.
In the end it always sounds like the problem with FDR's New Deal was that FDR didn't spend enough. Conservatives can accept war time spending but not Depression spending. FDR always had the desire to balance the budget, yet as we have discovered start of the cure was Keynes, we simply didn't spend enough. The problem with Keynes, in a democracy is that we never pay back the borrowed money, politicians just can't bring themselves to get to that point. The New Deal also meant less pressure to create a new type of government or economic system for America as some other nations did.
 
How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

The GD was pretty scary. Frank is supporting the Ronald Reagan theory of deficit spending to pump your economy. Like myself he probably remembers that era. Charge tomorrow for today's prosperity. Not a crazy idea. Ppl with college loans or credit cards practice it

In the case of WWII it sure did help. Our competition in Europe and Asia was destroyed and boy did we lean how to ship things across the world. Couple that with cheap labor overseas and the Marshall plan and our standard of living sure did rise.

The GD arose out of a similar circumstance. WWI was not WWII but did not help. We experienced a similar era of prosperity but folks got out of control.

FDR went back to America's roots to dig us out. No longer could big government give away alternating parcals of land across the continent to get things done, or just give land away to those who found the cities of the industrial revolution distasteful and dirty. SO he created programs for everything and deficit spent just like Reagan. Well, FDR got power plants and stuff made which powered the sunbelt explosion (with a big nod to a/c).

Oh well. In general I love the New Deal. It was a scary time of socialist revolutions and seemingly failed capitalism, and we avoided one.
In the end it always sounds like the problem with FDR's New Deal was that FDR didn't spend enough. Conservatives can accept war time spending but not Depression spending. FDR always had the desire to balance the budget, yet as we have discovered start of the cure was Keynes, we simply didn't spend enough. The problem with Keynes, in a democracy is that we never pay back the borrowed money, politicians just can't bring themselves to get to that point. The New Deal also meant less pressure to create a new type of government or economic system for America as some other nations did.

Harding and Coolidge inherited an economy just as bad and in they CUT Spending and CUT taxes and in 18 months UE Dropped from 12% to 4%.

FDR raised taxes and spending and had 2 whole terms of failure -- 20% Average unemployment. Worse than the 7 Biblical Lean years
 
FDR real Legacy:

Presided over an economy worse than the 7 Biblical Lean Year which did not improve until Hitler Conquered France,

Tuskegee Experiments, where black males were denied treatment so they could experimented upon to test the virulence and pathology of syphilis

Allowed genuine Communist spies in the WH and US State Department to direct US policy

Interred over 100,000 innocent Japanese Americans,

Let Joe Stalin direct US War Plans including "Unconditional Surrender" becoming the guiding theme for WWII resulting in the annihilation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Fought the first battle of WWII in Africa (which never attacked us) against the French!

Aided history's greatest Mass Murderer Chairman Mao in getting control of China

Enslaved Eastern Europeans by turning it over to history Number #2 Mass Murderer, "Uncle" Joe Stalin

Cuddled up to Dictator Stalin in 1933 immediately AFTER "Uncle" Joe staved Ukrainians to death including 3MM Children
 
The evidence is poor scholarship, badly documented, and not accepted narrative except by stooges of the far right.

Tis what it is, bro.

Got nothing, as usual; so you go to the Alinsky #5: Ridicule with a side of schmear

That is Bush#3, but truth is truth. The evidence does not carry the weight.

Did you just pick words at random to posit your response? There's no connection between any of them
 
How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

The GD was pretty scary. Frank is supporting the Ronald Reagan theory of deficit spending to pump your economy. Like myself he probably remembers that era. Charge tomorrow for today's prosperity. Not a crazy idea. Ppl with college loans or credit cards practice it

In the case of WWII it sure did help. Our competition in Europe and Asia was destroyed and boy did we lean how to ship things across the world. Couple that with cheap labor overseas and the Marshall plan and our standard of living sure did rise.

The GD arose out of a similar circumstance. WWI was not WWII but did not help. We experienced a similar era of prosperity but folks got out of control.

FDR went back to America's roots to dig us out. No longer could big government give away alternating parcals of land across the continent to get things done, or just give land away to those who found the cities of the industrial revolution distasteful and dirty. SO he created programs for everything and deficit spent just like Reagan. Well, FDR got power plants and stuff made which powered the sunbelt explosion (with a big nod to a/c).

Oh well. In general I love the New Deal. It was a scary time of socialist revolutions and seemingly failed capitalism, and we avoided one.
In the end it always sounds like the problem with FDR's New Deal was that FDR didn't spend enough. Conservatives can accept war time spending but not Depression spending. FDR always had the desire to balance the budget, yet as we have discovered start of the cure was Keynes, we simply didn't spend enough. The problem with Keynes, in a democracy is that we never pay back the borrowed money, politicians just can't bring themselves to get to that point. The New Deal also meant less pressure to create a new type of government or economic system for America as some other nations did.

Harding and Coolidge inherited an economy just as bad and in they CUT Spending and CUT taxes and in 18 months UE Dropped from 12% to 4%.

FDR raised taxes and spending and had 2 whole terms of failure -- 20% Average unemployment. Worse than the 7 Biblical Lean years
How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

The GD was pretty scary. Frank is supporting the Ronald Reagan theory of deficit spending to pump your economy. Like myself he probably remembers that era. Charge tomorrow for today's prosperity. Not a crazy idea. Ppl with college loans or credit cards practice it

In the case of WWII it sure did help. Our competition in Europe and Asia was destroyed and boy did we lean how to ship things across the world. Couple that with cheap labor overseas and the Marshall plan and our standard of living sure did rise.

The GD arose out of a similar circumstance. WWI was not WWII but did not help. We experienced a similar era of prosperity but folks got out of control.

FDR went back to America's roots to dig us out. No longer could big government give away alternating parcals of land across the continent to get things done, or just give land away to those who found the cities of the industrial revolution distasteful and dirty. SO he created programs for everything and deficit spent just like Reagan. Well, FDR got power plants and stuff made which powered the sunbelt explosion (with a big nod to a/c).

Oh well. In general I love the New Deal. It was a scary time of socialist revolutions and seemingly failed capitalism, and we avoided one.
In the end it always sounds like the problem with FDR's New Deal was that FDR didn't spend enough. Conservatives can accept war time spending but not Depression spending. FDR always had the desire to balance the budget, yet as we have discovered start of the cure was Keynes, we simply didn't spend enough. The problem with Keynes, in a democracy is that we never pay back the borrowed money, politicians just can't bring themselves to get to that point. The New Deal also meant less pressure to create a new type of government or economic system for America as some other nations did.

Harding and Coolidge inherited an economy just as bad and in they CUT Spending and CUT taxes and in 18 months UE Dropped from 12% to 4%.

FDR raised taxes and spending and had 2 whole terms of failure -- 20% Average unemployment. Worse than the 7 Biblical Lean years
How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

The GD was pretty scary. Frank is supporting the Ronald Reagan theory of deficit spending to pump your economy. Like myself he probably remembers that era. Charge tomorrow for today's prosperity. Not a crazy idea. Ppl with college loans or credit cards practice it

In the case of WWII it sure did help. Our competition in Europe and Asia was destroyed and boy did we lean how to ship things across the world. Couple that with cheap labor overseas and the Marshall plan and our standard of living sure did rise.

The GD arose out of a similar circumstance. WWI was not WWII but did not help. We experienced a similar era of prosperity but folks got out of control.

FDR went back to America's roots to dig us out. No longer could big government give away alternating parcals of land across the continent to get things done, or just give land away to those who found the cities of the industrial revolution distasteful and dirty. SO he created programs for everything and deficit spent just like Reagan. Well, FDR got power plants and stuff made which powered the sunbelt explosion (with a big nod to a/c).

Oh well. In general I love the New Deal. It was a scary time of socialist revolutions and seemingly failed capitalism, and we avoided one.
In the end it always sounds like the problem with FDR's New Deal was that FDR didn't spend enough. Conservatives can accept war time spending but not Depression spending. FDR always had the desire to balance the budget, yet as we have discovered start of the cure was Keynes, we simply didn't spend enough. The problem with Keynes, in a democracy is that we never pay back the borrowed money, politicians just can't bring themselves to get to that point. The New Deal also meant less pressure to create a new type of government or economic system for America as some other nations did.

Harding and Coolidge inherited an economy just as bad and in they CUT Spending and CUT taxes and in 18 months UE Dropped from 12% to 4%.

FDR raised taxes and spending and had 2 whole terms of failure -- 20% Average unemployment. Worse than the 7 Biblical Lean years
Where is it written that the Great Depression was the same as Harding and Coolidge's? A number of factors go into the creation of a depression, and even the intensity of a recession/depression can be different. America went through some short and some long, depressions and some more intense and some less intense. The Great Depression was the most severe and Hoover had almost four years to apply Harding and Coolidge's solutions to that economic problem, wonder if he tried? The Great Depression is probably the most studied and researched economic disaster in our history; wonder what the economists, and historians have come up with. We already know what the politicians have come up with.
 
You got EVERYTHING Wrong. It's scary that you FDRbots just parrot back whatever you're instructed and never bother to learn anything for yourself.

You don't know dick about Reagan, FDR or basic economics so what's the fucking point of even "Debating" you

Settle down Frank. The cuss words and big letters do not reflect well.

Ok. Lets take the TVA. What did it cost and result in? Was it a good program?

Lets take the recommissioning of the Missouri and Wisconsin. What did they cost and result in?

No cussing just thoughts.

I am gonna venture to say the TVA cost future money to put people to work building things. Those things were dams and land improvements which made the land more valuable and electricity cheaper for the southern industrial revolution. Worth it?

The battleship rebuilding was deficit spending and put Americans to work THAT day. They floated for a bit. If you think it intimidated Russia or helped ojr military flex their muscle great. They made hella missile platforms. Now the Soviet Union is aoart and we have fragmented Russia to deal with. The U.S.S.R was bad for sure. Worth it?
 
The evidence is poor scholarship, badly documented, and not accepted narrative except by stooges of the far right.

Tis what it is, bro.

Got nothing, as usual; so you go to the Alinsky #5: Ridicule with a side of schmear

That is Bush#3, but truth is truth. The evidence does not carry the weight.

Did you just pick words at random to posit your response? There's no connection between any of them

Your failure to realize that there is a connection reveals your inability to constructively think.
 
You got EVERYTHING Wrong. It's scary that you FDRbots just parrot back whatever you're instructed and never bother to learn anything for yourself.

You don't know dick about Reagan, FDR or basic economics so what's the fucking point of even "Debating" you

Settle down Frank. The cuss words and big letters do not reflect well.

Ok. Lets take the TVA. What did it cost and result in? Was it a good program?

Lets take the recommissioning of the Missouri and Wisconsin. What did they cost and result in?

No cussing just thoughts.

I am gonna venture to say the TVA cost future money to put people to work building things. Those things were dams and land improvements which made the land more valuable and electricity cheaper for the southern industrial revolution. Worth it?

The battleship rebuilding was deficit spending and put Americans to work THAT day. They floated for a bit. If you think it intimidated Russia or helped ojr military flex their muscle great. They made hella missile platforms. Now the Soviet Union is aoart and we have fragmented Russia to deal with. The U.S.S.R was bad for sure. Worth it?

CF refuses to recognize the collective effort rewards individuals. He is trapped in a fantasist social cultural political model that cannot exist.
 
How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

The GD was pretty scary. Frank is supporting the Ronald Reagan theory of deficit spending to pump your economy. Like myself he probably remembers that era. Charge tomorrow for today's prosperity. Not a crazy idea. Ppl with college loans or credit cards practice it

In the case of WWII it sure did help. Our competition in Europe and Asia was destroyed and boy did we lean how to ship things across the world. Couple that with cheap labor overseas and the Marshall plan and our standard of living sure did rise.

The GD arose out of a similar circumstance. WWI was not WWII but did not help. We experienced a similar era of prosperity but folks got out of control.

FDR went back to America's roots to dig us out. No longer could big government give away alternating parcals of land across the continent to get things done, or just give land away to those who found the cities of the industrial revolution distasteful and dirty. SO he created programs for everything and deficit spent just like Reagan. Well, FDR got power plants and stuff made which powered the sunbelt explosion (with a big nod to a/c).

Oh well. In general I love the New Deal. It was a scary time of socialist revolutions and seemingly failed capitalism, and we avoided one.
In the end it always sounds like the problem with FDR's New Deal was that FDR didn't spend enough. Conservatives can accept war time spending but not Depression spending. FDR always had the desire to balance the budget, yet as we have discovered start of the cure was Keynes, we simply didn't spend enough. The problem with Keynes, in a democracy is that we never pay back the borrowed money, politicians just can't bring themselves to get to that point. The New Deal also meant less pressure to create a new type of government or economic system for America as some other nations did.

Harding and Coolidge inherited an economy just as bad and in they CUT Spending and CUT taxes and in 18 months UE Dropped from 12% to 4%.

FDR raised taxes and spending and had 2 whole terms of failure -- 20% Average unemployment. Worse than the 7 Biblical Lean years
How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

The GD was pretty scary. Frank is supporting the Ronald Reagan theory of deficit spending to pump your economy. Like myself he probably remembers that era. Charge tomorrow for today's prosperity. Not a crazy idea. Ppl with college loans or credit cards practice it

In the case of WWII it sure did help. Our competition in Europe and Asia was destroyed and boy did we lean how to ship things across the world. Couple that with cheap labor overseas and the Marshall plan and our standard of living sure did rise.

The GD arose out of a similar circumstance. WWI was not WWII but did not help. We experienced a similar era of prosperity but folks got out of control.

FDR went back to America's roots to dig us out. No longer could big government give away alternating parcals of land across the continent to get things done, or just give land away to those who found the cities of the industrial revolution distasteful and dirty. SO he created programs for everything and deficit spent just like Reagan. Well, FDR got power plants and stuff made which powered the sunbelt explosion (with a big nod to a/c).

Oh well. In general I love the New Deal. It was a scary time of socialist revolutions and seemingly failed capitalism, and we avoided one.
In the end it always sounds like the problem with FDR's New Deal was that FDR didn't spend enough. Conservatives can accept war time spending but not Depression spending. FDR always had the desire to balance the budget, yet as we have discovered start of the cure was Keynes, we simply didn't spend enough. The problem with Keynes, in a democracy is that we never pay back the borrowed money, politicians just can't bring themselves to get to that point. The New Deal also meant less pressure to create a new type of government or economic system for America as some other nations did.

Harding and Coolidge inherited an economy just as bad and in they CUT Spending and CUT taxes and in 18 months UE Dropped from 12% to 4%.

FDR raised taxes and spending and had 2 whole terms of failure -- 20% Average unemployment. Worse than the 7 Biblical Lean years
How did America gearing up for war end the Great Depression?

The GD was pretty scary. Frank is supporting the Ronald Reagan theory of deficit spending to pump your economy. Like myself he probably remembers that era. Charge tomorrow for today's prosperity. Not a crazy idea. Ppl with college loans or credit cards practice it

In the case of WWII it sure did help. Our competition in Europe and Asia was destroyed and boy did we lean how to ship things across the world. Couple that with cheap labor overseas and the Marshall plan and our standard of living sure did rise.

The GD arose out of a similar circumstance. WWI was not WWII but did not help. We experienced a similar era of prosperity but folks got out of control.

FDR went back to America's roots to dig us out. No longer could big government give away alternating parcals of land across the continent to get things done, or just give land away to those who found the cities of the industrial revolution distasteful and dirty. SO he created programs for everything and deficit spent just like Reagan. Well, FDR got power plants and stuff made which powered the sunbelt explosion (with a big nod to a/c).

Oh well. In general I love the New Deal. It was a scary time of socialist revolutions and seemingly failed capitalism, and we avoided one.
In the end it always sounds like the problem with FDR's New Deal was that FDR didn't spend enough. Conservatives can accept war time spending but not Depression spending. FDR always had the desire to balance the budget, yet as we have discovered start of the cure was Keynes, we simply didn't spend enough. The problem with Keynes, in a democracy is that we never pay back the borrowed money, politicians just can't bring themselves to get to that point. The New Deal also meant less pressure to create a new type of government or economic system for America as some other nations did.

Harding and Coolidge inherited an economy just as bad and in they CUT Spending and CUT taxes and in 18 months UE Dropped from 12% to 4%.

FDR raised taxes and spending and had 2 whole terms of failure -- 20% Average unemployment. Worse than the 7 Biblical Lean years
Where is it written that the Great Depression was the same as Harding and Coolidge's? A number of factors go into the creation of a depression, and even the intensity of a recession/depression can be different. America went through some short and some long, depressions and some more intense and some less intense. The Great Depression was the most severe and Hoover had almost four years to apply Harding and Coolidge's solutions to that economic problem, wonder if he tried? The Great Depression is probably the most studied and researched economic disaster in our history; wonder what the economists, and historians have come up with. We already know what the politicians have come up with.
The evidence is poor scholarship, badly documented, and not accepted narrative except by stooges of the far right.

Tis what it is, bro.

Got nothing, as usual; so you go to the Alinsky #5: Ridicule with a side of schmear

That is Bush#3, but truth is truth. The evidence does not carry the weight.

Did you just pick words at random to posit your response? There's no connection between any of them

Your failure to realize that there is a connection reveals your inability to constructively think.

The connection is that your only response to PC is to say she's a mean poopyhead for using big words you don't understand
 
You got EVERYTHING Wrong. It's scary that you FDRbots just parrot back whatever you're instructed and never bother to learn anything for yourself.

You don't know dick about Reagan, FDR or basic economics so what's the fucking point of even "Debating" you

Settle down Frank. The cuss words and big letters do not reflect well.

Ok. Lets take the TVA. What did it cost and result in? Was it a good program?

Lets take the recommissioning of the Missouri and Wisconsin. What did they cost and result in?

No cussing just thoughts.

I am gonna venture to say the TVA cost future money to put people to work building things. Those things were dams and land improvements which made the land more valuable and electricity cheaper for the southern industrial revolution. Worth it?

The battleship rebuilding was deficit spending and put Americans to work THAT day. They floated for a bit. If you think it intimidated Russia or helped ojr military flex their muscle great. They made hella missile platforms. Now the Soviet Union is aoart and we have fragmented Russia to deal with. The U.S.S.R was bad for sure. Worth it?

TVA should be privatized.

Recommissioning the Iowa Class battleships was a great idea and one of the few expenditures actually contained in the Constitution

I know you feel bad that Reagan broke up the USSR, tough. Just deal with it
 
PC ad homs from the beginning, and CF thinks hat acceptable, then cries when she is dealt with in kind.

CF, the world will not pay attention to your wheeziness. That is a simple fact.

If you cannot constructively respond to people and issues with which you disagree, you will fail.
 
CrusaderFrank: It's scary that you FDRbots just parrot back whatever you're instructed and never bother to learn anything for yourself.

Low information tool talk from the far right. Try this in a modern university, private or public, and you will have your hands full. You are going to be asked to produce a solid body of objective evidence (which M.D. did not produce, by the by) untainted by confirmation bias up front.

Climate change denial, confirmation bias, creation "science", confirmation science: folks, always ask for the hard unbiased evidence. Doesn't exist.
 
You got EVERYTHING Wrong. It's scary that you FDRbots just parrot back whatever you're instructed and never bother to learn anything for yourself.

You don't know dick about Reagan, FDR or basic economics so what's the fucking point of even "Debating" you

Settle down Frank. The cuss words and big letters do not reflect well.

Ok. Lets take the TVA. What did it cost and result in? Was it a good program?

Lets take the recommissioning of the Missouri and Wisconsin. What did they cost and result in?

No cussing just thoughts.

I am gonna venture to say the TVA cost future money to put people to work building things. Those things were dams and land improvements which made the land more valuable and electricity cheaper for the southern industrial revolution. Worth it?

The battleship rebuilding was deficit spending and put Americans to work THAT day. They floated for a bit. If you think it intimidated Russia or helped ojr military flex their muscle great. They made hella missile platforms. Now the Soviet Union is aoart and we have fragmented Russia to deal with. The U.S.S.R was bad for sure. Worth it?

TVA should be privatized.

Recommissioning the Iowa Class battleships was a great idea and one of the few expenditures actually contained in the Constitution

I know you feel bad that Reagan broke up the USSR, tough. Just deal with it

So you think the TVA helped the country idea AND the 500 ship navy or whatever the recommissioning program was called, helped the country?

(Don't go too nuts on me being a hippie. That BB avatar pic of mine I assume was taken after recomissioning)

You did a better job not being rude btw. Thank you.
 
And again we see the usual cognitive dissonance embodied in far right economic fantasies. FDR's Keynesian policies were 'failures', but magically war time Federal spending, coupled with rationing and a draft, are what 'ended the Depression'. Can't have it both ways, well, unless you're a ideologue with no grasp of reality or how ridiculously contradictory what you're claiming is.
 
PC ad homs from the beginning, and CF thinks hat acceptable, then cries when she is dealt with in kind.

CF, the world will not pay attention to your wheeziness. That is a simple fact.

If you cannot constructively respond to people and issues with which you disagree, you will fail.
One of us has to fake that he's a republican. Is that because nobody would pay attention to you as your true progressive self?
 
CF, is ad hom and fabrication all you got? You are a far right social con, not a mainstream Pub. I could vote for a McCain, a Jindal, a Christie. You can't. So don't keep wah'ing, and let's talk about the future, because we are not going backwards.

On the other hand, a Perry or a Santorum or whatever from the far rioght will never be nominated, so let's work together for a better GOP.
 

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