Why Did Roosevelt Extend WWII By 2 Years??

[PoliticalChic]

Doesn't mean a thing. You have not linked them quotes together as a credible defense of the OP.

There is no way, in the conditions of the time, that the European war could have ended in 1943.

The logistics and units could not have forced it.

Hitler would not have surrendered and would not have given back conquered territories in a truce.

The OP fails. All you can say "is could have, could have." No, PC, in context, no, it could not.

So....essentially, you are trying to deny the truth because of it would prove that everything I've said is correct.....Instead, your feeble efforts identify you as not simply stupid, but a lying sad sack as well. Franklin Roosevelt extended the war, just as he had extended the depression. He was a failure....you, a failure and a fraud. You are as burned as Edgar Winter on an Ecuadorian beach!

You have always fitted your assertions to your philosophy without the evidence to joint them together well.

You keep whining you are right even when you are shown the facts contradict you.

One, the lack of logistic assets and combat units prevented an invasion of the West in 1943.

Two, Hitler had no desire to end the war if he had to give up his conquests.

Those are facts that you can't confront with your silly statements.

There's drool running down your chin again.....disgusting.

Have your nurse wipe that off for you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

So....essentially, you are trying to deny the truth because of it would prove that everything I've said is correct.....Instead, your feeble efforts identify you as not simply stupid, but a lying sad sack as well. Franklin Roosevelt extended the war, just as he had extended the depression. He was a failure....you, a failure and a fraud. You are as burned as Edgar Winter on an Ecuadorian beach!

You have always fitted your assertions to your philosophy without the evidence to joint them together well.

You keep whining you are right even when you are shown the facts contradict you.

One, the lack of logistic assets and combat units prevented an invasion of the West in 1943.

Two, Hitler had no desire to end the war if he had to give up his conquests.

Those are facts that you can't confront with your silly statements.

There's drool running down your chin again.....disgusting.

Have your nurse wipe that off for you.

Once last chance: show us how peace could have been achieved in the West in 1943.

 

[regent]

You have always fitted your assertions to your philosophy without the evidence to joint them together well.

You keep whining you are right even when you are shown the facts contradict you.

One, the lack of logistic assets and combat units prevented an invasion of the West in 1943.

Two, Hitler had no desire to end the war if he had to give up his conquests.

Those are facts that you can't confront with your silly statements.

There's drool running down your chin again.....disgusting.

Have your nurse wipe that off for you.

Once last chance: show us how peace could have been achieved in the West in 1943.

They get this stuff from blogs on the internet but since the blog does not have enough background they can only go so far and they they run out of air. It sounds plausible to some but others know it's historical garbage.

 

[Camp]

The OP always ends up showing a glaring, obvious and almost comical lack of knowledge in her "I hate FDR" excursions. Not long ago we had to inform her about the invasions of Italy and southern France. This time she seems to have a misguided concept that Germany could have surrendered without Hitler giving his blessing. The most comical one about this particular failed conspiracy theory is her seeming lack of knowledge about Rudolf Hess. How the heck can you discuss the possibility of early surrender in WWII without including Rudolf Hess?

 

[JakeStarkey]

There's drool running down your chin again.....disgusting.

Have your nurse wipe that off for you.

Once last chance: show us how peace could have been achieved in the West in 1943.

They get this stuff from blogs on the internet but since the blog does not have enough background they can only go so far and they they run out of air. It sounds plausible to some but others know it's historical garbage.

I know. PC says she was educated in journalism at Columbia U, but when one reads her distorted, biased, conflicted, yet predictable nonsense, one just sighs as if looking at a handicapable child.

 

[Camp]

Once last chance: show us how peace could have been achieved in the West in 1943.

They get this stuff from blogs on the internet but since the blog does not have enough background they can only go so far and they they run out of air. It sounds plausible to some but others know it's historical garbage.

I know. PC says she was educated in journalism at Columbia U, but when one reads her distorted, biased, conflicted, yet predictable nonsense, one just sighs as if looking at a handicapable child.

Journalist write stories with spin designed to transmit an emotional response that arouses curiosity. They embellish, exaggerate, stretch truth and use all kind of methods to attract a fan base and draw attention. That is not anything like what historians do. I don't know why people think journalist or political pundits and commentators make good historians.

 

[JakeStarkey]

PC is trying to build a notable blogger base so she can what . . . preach to the crazy choir.

She has not been able to get over the two criteria that undermine her thesis completely, so she cries and lies and denies and asks 'why me.'

 

[Toronado3800]

There HAS to be some Germand Field Marshall or Sergeant or Private who after experiencing the horrors of Stalingrad or Kursk would have LOVED to surrender to the Americans in '43.

Frank or PC found a letter from Von Palus or SOMEONE to that effect, right?

Regardless I don't think the peace would have carried if Corporal Smoe surrendered his platoon in Siberian captivity to the Americans.

There are a couple lessons and inconsistencies here.

One, right or wrong FDR drug us into the war one lend lease act at a time.

Two, it is weird folks call Hittler a socialist and FDR a socialist yet FDR drug us into that war over the objections of the folks who (rightfully) hated Stalin and the socialists.

 

[Moonglow]

He drug us into war?? Yet we were attached and had war declared on us.. Economic sanctions was the reason the Japs attacked the US and Germans declared war on the US because the Japs attacked us,,but Roosevelt drug us into the war...eschewed revisionism at best...

 

[Camp]

He drug us into war?? Yet we were attached and had war declared on us.. Economic sanctions was the reason the Japs attacked the US and Germans declared war on the US because the Japs attacked us,,but Roosevelt drug us into the war...eschewed revisionism at best...

Well FDR had the option of bowing down to the Germans who were attacking our ships, including Navel ships on the open seas. He could have allowed the Germans to dictate that we were not allowed to sell supplies and goods to Great Britain and given up our rights to free travel on the open seas and freedom for American business and industry to trade. That may have kept him from dragging us into war.

 

[Toronado3800]

I will disagree. All that pre DECEMBER 1941 neutrality violating base for destroyers trading and Atlantic dividing escort responsibility stuff is evidence FDR drug us into the war.

We fired on the Germans and them on us before the end of '41.

Look up the service histories of the USS Kearney, Rueben James, Niblack and USCGC Northland.

All in the Atlantic. I do this WWII naval gaming stuff so I read vessell histories. Interesting stuff there!

 

[Moonglow]

So FDR should have let the Germans have their way and let down our traditional allies?

 

[Toronado3800]

Disagree with Moonglow to be clear. I should have quoted.

 

[Toronado3800]

Disagree with Moonglow to be clear. I should have quoted.

 

[Toronado3800]

Disagree with Moonglow to be clear. I should have quoted.

 

[Camp]

Are we still debating the USS Greer and who shot first?

 

[Toronado3800]

Are we still debating the USS Greer and who shot first?

Snazzy.

It is difficult to detect humor on line but I liked your post.

Sept 4, 1940 also. Man, early date.

 

[regent]

So why do the best historians in America continue to rate FDR so highly and have done so since the first 1948 rating? I keep asking these conservatives to get their historical data, information and files to those historians that are asked rate the presidents as soon as possible. It seems essential that the historians begin to a-line their history with some of the poster's history.

 

[JoeB131]

So why do the best historians in America continue to rate FDR so highly and have done so since the first 1948 rating? I keep asking these conservatives to get their historical data, information and files to those historians that are asked rate the presidents as soon as possible. It seems essential that the historians begin to a-line their history with some of the poster's history.

Even Conservative Historians put FDR in the top three with Lincoln and Washington.

But we are talking about the whacky right that doesnt' even like what Lincoln did.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why Did Roosevelt Extend WWII By 2 Years??

He didn't

Germany surrendered in May of 1945. The OP's premise is that we had won the war by May of 1943.

I think to most people here the preposterousness of that premise is self-evident.