Why deny voters rights?

[Sirkarl101]

While attacks continue on the rights of voters with stricter regulations that primarily affect the minority and poor it brings one to question the true nature of supposed Americans. Generally when the fundamental rights of Americans are attacked, people rally to support those being attacked. Today it appears as though a political party is so doubtful that they may win the general election they are willing to cast aside the rights of others to see their parties candidate win. It would be considered a hollow victory that will be challenged and never be considered legitimate in many eyes.

No significant problem exists that are of any consequence, so fabrication or no explanation is offered. It is just terrible that others are willing to throw Americans under the bus because of their doubt in the ability of their party to win an election.

There is a positive however, people will unite to right the wrongs and we will see more and more overturned elections, repeal of laws and challenges regarding taxation without representation.

If you can win the game, change the rules..

 

[Truthmatters]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw]Paul Weyrich - "I don't want everybody to vote" (Goo Goo) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[bripat9643]

Where does it say you have the right to vote without showing valid ID?

While attacks continue on the rights of voters with stricter regulations that primarily affect the minority and poor it brings one to question the true nature of supposed Americans. Generally when the fundamental rights of Americans are attacked, people rally to support those being attacked. Today it appears as though a political party is so doubtful that they may win the general election they are willing to cast aside the rights of others to see their parties candidate win. It would be considered a hollow victory that will be challenged and never be considered legitimate in many eyes.

No significant problem exists that are of any consequence, so fabrication or no explanation is offered. It is just terrible that others are willing to throw Americans under the bus because of their doubt in the ability of their party to win an election.

There is a positive however, people will unite to right the wrongs and we will see more and more overturned elections, repeal of laws and challenges regarding taxation without representation.

If you can win the game, change the rules..

 

[bripat9643]

Paul Weyrich - "I don't want everybody to vote"

Why would any intelligent person want everyone to vote? The idea of you voting sends shivers down my spine.

 

[Ernie S.]

While attacks continue on the rights of voters with stricter regulations that primarily affect the minority and poor it brings one to question the true nature of supposed Americans. Generally when the fundamental rights of Americans are attacked, people rally to support those being attacked. Today it appears as though a political party is so doubtful that they may win the general election they are willing to cast aside the rights of others to see their parties candidate win. It would be considered a hollow victory that will be challenged and never be considered legitimate in many eyes.

No significant problem exists that are of any consequence, so fabrication or no explanation is offered. It is just terrible that others are willing to throw Americans under the bus because of their doubt in the ability of their party to win an election.

There is a positive however, people will unite to right the wrongs and we will see more and more overturned elections, repeal of laws and challenges regarding taxation without representation.

If you can win the game, change the rules..

If you are a citizen, you are eligible to vote. If you are not, then you don't get to exercise a right you don't legally possess.
Suppose, for instance, next November, you went to your polling place to vote and you were told you had already voted. You could actually face felony charges for voter fraud, even though someone else had previously voted using your name.
You could stand there, even showing your driver's license, but you're still not going to be able to cast a ballot.
Are you going to calmly walk away feeling all warm and fuzzy because the guy that wasn't asked to show a photo ID wasn't "disenfranchised?

 

[alan1]

While attacks continue on the rights of voters with stricter regulations that primarily affect the minority and poor it brings one to question the true nature of supposed Americans. Generally when the fundamental rights of Americans are attacked, people rally to support those being attacked. Today it appears as though a political party is so doubtful that they may win the general election they are willing to cast aside the rights of others to see their parties candidate win. It would be considered a hollow victory that will be challenged and never be considered legitimate in many eyes.

No significant problem exists that are of any consequence, so fabrication or no explanation is offered. It is just terrible that others are willing to throw Americans under the bus because of their doubt in the ability of their party to win an election.

There is a positive however, people will unite to right the wrongs and we will see more and more overturned elections, repeal of laws and challenges regarding taxation without representation.

If you can win the game, change the rules..

The implication of your post is that only one party would be adversely affected by people(voters) being required to prove who they are.
Perhaps banks shouldn't require proof before cashing a check.
Perhaps stores, bars and restaurants shouldn't require proof before selling alcoholic beverages.
Perhaps courts shouldn't require proof before allowing one to either testify or serve on a jury.

 

[Truthmatters]

there has been no fraud like you people claim found in evidence

 

[Truthmatters]

In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud - New York Times

 

[ba1614]

It cracks me up how progressives don't think minorities have the capability to get themselves an ID. Sad they don't have more confidence in them than that.

 

[Truthmatters]

sad you dont care about legal Americans being allowed to vote

 

[Truthmatters]

Sorry OP they dont much like this subject because the facts are not on their side

 

[Mad Scientist]

sad you dont care about legal Americans being allowed to vote

sad that you don't care that illegal aliens are allowed to vote.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Generally when the fundamental rights of Americans are attacked, people rally to support those being attacked.

True.

However voter ID requirements and shortening voting periods are not in general an attack one’s rights.

The question to be asked is why are conservatives and republicans so adamant about IDs when we know for a fact voter fraud is virtually non-existent and there is no record of a recent election whose results were changed as a result of fraud.

Also ask why states controlled by republicans are shortening the days and hours citizens may vote.

Clearly these and other efforts are being taken by republicans in an effort to adversely effect those whom conservatives perceive to be democratic voters: minorities, the elderly, the poor – a segment of our population for whom the right has contempt in general with regard to their historic voting habits.

That an action is not technically a violation of one’s civil rights doesn’t mean that action is not wrong, it is telling republicans fear exposing their ideas to the open political marketplace and believe they must rely on questionable manipulations of the election process to win elections.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Why deny common sense?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Where is the data showing that minorities can't or won't get ID cards vs. non-minorities (AKA "whites")?

 

[Truthmatters]

Yes why do you do that GMU?

 

[Ernie S.]

sad you dont care about legal Americans being allowed to vote

But we do, TDM. the operative word is legal.
Prove to me that you are who you claim to be without a photo ID. Sorry I just ain't going to take your word for it. You're a proven liar.legal

PLEASE buy a new keyboard with a functioning apostrophe.

 

[earlycuyler]

sad you dont care about legal Americans being allowed to vote

Like thees guys ?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU]"Security" patrols stationed at polling places in Philly - YouTube[/ame]

And this-

Voter fraud is real
And voter ID laws are really needed; they are not racist
Sunday, December 18, 2011
By Jack Kelly, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The state chairman of Indiana's Democratic Party resigned Monday as a probe of election fraud in the 2008 Democratic presidential primary widened.

State law requires a presidential candidate to gather 500 valid signatures in each county to qualify for the ballot. Barack Obama may not have met it. Investigators think 150 of the 534 signatures the Obama campaign turned in for St. Joseph County may have been forged.

Read more: Voter fraud is real


and this

Despite What Democrats Claim, Voter Fraud is Real
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Despite What Democrats Claim, Voter Fraud is Real - Peter Roff (usnews.com)

Its in BOTH party's interest to require ID at the polls, and protect against voter fraud.

 

[Oldstyle]

Generally when the fundamental rights of Americans are attacked, people rally to support those being attacked.

True.

However voter ID requirements and shortening voting periods are not in general an attack one’s rights.

The question to be asked is why are conservatives and republicans so adamant about IDs when we know for a fact voter fraud is virtually non-existent and there is no record of a recent election whose results were changed as a result of fraud.

Also ask why states controlled by republicans are shortening the days and hours citizens may vote.

Clearly these and other efforts are being taken by republicans in an effort to adversely effect those whom conservatives perceive to be democratic voters: minorities, the elderly, the poor – a segment of our population for whom the right has contempt in general with regard to their historic voting habits.

That an action is not technically a violation of one’s civil rights doesn’t mean that action is not wrong, it is telling republicans fear exposing their ideas to the open political marketplace and believe they must rely on questionable manipulations of the election process to win elections.

Gee, I don't know, Clayton...perhaps Republicans see all the shenanagins that are taking place with voter registrations by ACORN and the wholesale forging of signatures to get candidates on the ballot in Indiana and start to have concerns that it's going to carry over to voting?

Having valid ID would do a lot to alleviate concerns over that BEFORE it occurs. So in my view the question then becomes why do progressives fight this? Some things are just common sense. Having someone present valid ID before being allowed to do something as crucial as vote is just common sense.

 

[Ernie S.]

Yes why do you do that GMU?

Why do you lack any?