Why Darwin?

[NYcarbineer]

Why won't PoliticalChic tell us what she believes?

Shame.

She hides her own positions because she thinks it's clever. When people draw logical conclusions about what her positions are,

she calls them liars and demands that people prove she ever took that position.

It's standard issue rightwing obfuscation.

But I am clever.

See how easily I get you to jump through hoops?

Doggie treat?

The ability of women to annoy men is not a female accomplishment. It's an inbred female trait that fortunately many women in the world are able to suppress.

"inbred" is not a useful term in this context. The correct term is "HARD WIRED"

Congenital?

 

[irosie91]

Shame.

She hides her own positions because she thinks it's clever. When people draw logical conclusions about what her positions are,

she calls them liars and demands that people prove she ever took that position.

It's standard issue rightwing obfuscation.

But I am clever.

See how easily I get you to jump through hoops?

Doggie treat?

The ability of women to annoy men is not a female accomplishment. It's an inbred female trait that fortunately many women in the world are able to suppress.

"inbred" is not a useful term in this context. The correct term is "HARD WIRED"

Congenital?

congenital would be ok too. More technical

 

[Thanatocoenosis]

Evolution is a FACT

God is a theory

The fact evinced by your post is that you are a moron.

1. Are you not able to see that the OP specifically references Darwin's theory?
2. Are you not aware that it is only Darwin and Marx's theory of evolution that is taught in all or almost all schools?
3. Do a little research and find out what "fact" means, and you may not embarrass yourself in the future.
4. Why bring up God?

Evolution is fact; just as gravity is fact, and microbes making one sick. There are theories to explain the fact of evolution, but it is a scientific fact that biologic organisms evolve.

What you presented in your OP was a bunch of red-herrings and other such nonsense that is prima facie evidence that you lack the ability to apply logic and critical thought processes- which is, in itself, an indictment of your educational background.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Evolution is a FACT

God is a theory

The fact evinced by your post is that you are a moron.

1. Are you not able to see that the OP specifically references Darwin's theory?
2. Are you not aware that it is only Darwin and Marx's theory of evolution that is taught in all or almost all schools?
3. Do a little research and find out what "fact" means, and you may not embarrass yourself in the future.
4. Why bring up God?

Evolution is fact; just as gravity is fact, and microbes making one sick. There are theories to explain the fact of evolution, but it is a scientific fact that biologic organisms evolve.

What you presented in your OP was a bunch of red-herrings and other such nonsense that is prima facie evidence that you lack the ability to apply logic and critical thought processes- which is, in itself, an indictment of your educational background.

You must be a government school grad....you should learn to read more carefully, and might not appear the fool.

Note the title of the thread.

It doesn't say 'Evolution,' does it.

It says 'Darwin.'

And Darwin's theory is certainly not a fact.

 

[Thanatocoenosis]

Evolution is a FACT

God is a theory

The fact evinced by your post is that you are a moron.

1. Are you not able to see that the OP specifically references Darwin's theory?
2. Are you not aware that it is only Darwin and Marx's theory of evolution that is taught in all or almost all schools?
3. Do a little research and find out what "fact" means, and you may not embarrass yourself in the future.
4. Why bring up God?

Evolution is fact; just as gravity is fact, and microbes making one sick. There are theories to explain the fact of evolution, but it is a scientific fact that biologic organisms evolve.

What you presented in your OP was a bunch of red-herrings and other such nonsense that is prima facie evidence that you lack the ability to apply logic and critical thought processes- which is, in itself, an indictment of your educational background.

You must be a government school grad....you should learn to read more carefully, and might not appear the fool.

Note the title of the thread.

It doesn't say 'Evolution,' does it.

It says 'Darwin.'

And Darwin's theory is certainly not a fact.

What's a "government school grad"?

You are the one that continuously uses logically fallacies in some weird attempt to discredit evolution. You can play games with semantics all you want, but most of us see right through your anti-intellectualism/anti-science nonsense and ignorance.

And, you have the temerity to call me a fool.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Evolution is a FACT

God is a theory

The fact evinced by your post is that you are a moron.

1. Are you not able to see that the OP specifically references Darwin's theory?
2. Are you not aware that it is only Darwin and Marx's theory of evolution that is taught in all or almost all schools?
3. Do a little research and find out what "fact" means, and you may not embarrass yourself in the future.
4. Why bring up God?

Evolution is fact; just as gravity is fact, and microbes making one sick. There are theories to explain the fact of evolution, but it is a scientific fact that biologic organisms evolve.

What you presented in your OP was a bunch of red-herrings and other such nonsense that is prima facie evidence that you lack the ability to apply logic and critical thought processes- which is, in itself, an indictment of your educational background.

You must be a government school grad....you should learn to read more carefully, and might not appear the fool.

Note the title of the thread.

It doesn't say 'Evolution,' does it.

It says 'Darwin.'

And Darwin's theory is certainly not a fact.

What's a "government school grad"?

You are the one that continuously uses logically fallacies in some weird attempt to discredit evolution. You can play games with semantics all you want, but most of us see right through your anti-intellectualism/anti-science nonsense and ignorance.

And, you have the temerity to call me a fool.

"And, you have the temerity to call me a fool.'

No....the accuracy.

 

[Steven_R]

Evolution is a FACT

God is a theory

The fact evinced by your post is that you are a moron.

1. Are you not able to see that the OP specifically references Darwin's theory?
2. Are you not aware that it is only Darwin and Marx's theory of evolution that is taught in all or almost all schools?
3. Do a little research and find out what "fact" means, and you may not embarrass yourself in the future.
4. Why bring up God?

Evolution is fact; just as gravity is fact, and microbes making one sick. There are theories to explain the fact of evolution, but it is a scientific fact that biologic organisms evolve.

What you presented in your OP was a bunch of red-herrings and other such nonsense that is prima facie evidence that you lack the ability to apply logic and critical thought processes- which is, in itself, an indictment of your educational background.

You must be a government school grad....you should learn to read more carefully, and might not appear the fool.

Note the title of the thread.

It doesn't say 'Evolution,' does it.

It says 'Darwin.'

And Darwin's theory is certainly not a fact.

Careful. You're half a step from saying "it's just a theory" and anyone who actually says that is either deliberately ignorant or just a fucking moron.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Evolution is a FACT

God is a theory

The fact evinced by your post is that you are a moron.

1. Are you not able to see that the OP specifically references Darwin's theory?
2. Are you not aware that it is only Darwin and Marx's theory of evolution that is taught in all or almost all schools?
3. Do a little research and find out what "fact" means, and you may not embarrass yourself in the future.
4. Why bring up God?

Evolution is fact; just as gravity is fact, and microbes making one sick. There are theories to explain the fact of evolution, but it is a scientific fact that biologic organisms evolve.

What you presented in your OP was a bunch of red-herrings and other such nonsense that is prima facie evidence that you lack the ability to apply logic and critical thought processes- which is, in itself, an indictment of your educational background.

You must be a government school grad....you should learn to read more carefully, and might not appear the fool.

Note the title of the thread.

It doesn't say 'Evolution,' does it.

It says 'Darwin.'

And Darwin's theory is certainly not a fact.

Careful. You're half a step from saying "it's just a theory" and anyone who actually says that is either deliberately ignorant or just a fucking moron.

Watch your language.
The vulgarity reveals your frustration.

Rather than being 'careful,' I'll continue to be totally accurate and correct.

You should try it when you tire of being a dunce.

 

[dblack]

1. Time and again graduates of government/liberal education institutions have reacted aggressively to any criticism of Dawin's theory of evolution. As has been pointed out, this is because said institutions favor Marxist anti-capitalist, anti-religion worldviews, and Darwin's thesis serves as bedrock support for this view.

They do???

a. One of the first readers of 'On the Origin of Species' was Friedrich Engels, then living in Manchester. He wroteto Karl Marx: "Darwin, by the way, whom I’m reading just now, is absolutely splendid. There was one aspect of teleology that had yet to be demolished,and that has now been done. Never before has so grandiose an attempt been made to demonstrate historical evolution in Nature, and certainly never to such good effect."
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, "Marx-Engels Collected Works" , vol. 40, p. 441.

I also heard he liked milk. Best avoid it.

2. " Because the claims of Darwinism are presented to the public as "science"most people are under the impression that they are supported by direct evidence such as experiments and fossil record studies This impression is seriously misleading[: it is false.]
Scientists cannot observe complex biological structures being created by random mutations and selection in a laboratory or elsewhere."
Johnson P.E. "Evolution as Dogma: The Establishment of Naturalism," Foundation for Thought and Ethics: Richardson, Texas, 1990, pp1-17

Let that sink in.....then re-consider your belief in Darwin's thesis.

No. Most people are under the impression that evolution makes a lot more sense than fairy tales. Because it does.

3. To defend Darwin, said acolytes often claim that it is the only 'scientific' theory of evolution, or that it is accepted by all scientists.

Hardly.

There are many theories meant to explain all life on earth. Darwin's is called a 'bottom-up' theory, based on two ideas, the twin pillars of his theory:

a. universal common ancestry of all living things, all had a single common ancestor way back in the distant past..."all the organic beings that have ever lived on this earth have descended from some one primordial form" (Darwin, "On The Origin of Species," p.484.)

and

b. natural selection, the process that acted on random variations of the traits or features of organism and their offspring.



Not only does the fossil record not support this view, but the discovery of the Burgess Shale, with all sorts of suddenly-appearing species, ended support of Darwin by cognoscenti.

Once more?
Evidence inveighs strongly against such a Darwinian view.

No. Evidence, overwhelmingly, inveighs that evolution is the most likely explanation for the origin of the species.

So....why Darwin?

Because it makes more sense and is better supported by evidence, than competing theories.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Time and again graduates of government/liberal education institutions have reacted aggressively to any criticism of Dawin's theory of evolution. As has been pointed out, this is because said institutions favor Marxist anti-capitalist, anti-religion worldviews, and Darwin's thesis serves as bedrock support for this view.

They do???

a. One of the first readers of 'On the Origin of Species' was Friedrich Engels, then living in Manchester. He wroteto Karl Marx: "Darwin, by the way, whom I’m reading just now, is absolutely splendid. There was one aspect of teleology that had yet to be demolished,and that has now been done. Never before has so grandiose an attempt been made to demonstrate historical evolution in Nature, and certainly never to such good effect."
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, "Marx-Engels Collected Works" , vol. 40, p. 441.

I also heard he liked milk. Best avoid it.

2. " Because the claims of Darwinism are presented to the public as "science"most people are under the impression that they are supported by direct evidence such as experiments and fossil record studies This impression is seriously misleading[: it is false.]
Scientists cannot observe complex biological structures being created by random mutations and selection in a laboratory or elsewhere."
Johnson P.E. "Evolution as Dogma: The Establishment of Naturalism," Foundation for Thought and Ethics: Richardson, Texas, 1990, pp1-17

Let that sink in.....then re-consider your belief in Darwin's thesis.

No. Most people are under the impression that evolution makes a lot more sense than fairy tales. Because it does.

3. To defend Darwin, said acolytes often claim that it is the only 'scientific' theory of evolution, or that it is accepted by all scientists.

Hardly.

There are many theories meant to explain all life on earth. Darwin's is called a 'bottom-up' theory, based on two ideas, the twin pillars of his theory:

a. universal common ancestry of all living things, all had a single common ancestor way back in the distant past..."all the organic beings that have ever lived on this earth have descended from some one primordial form" (Darwin, "On The Origin of Species," p.484.)

and

b. natural selection, the process that acted on random variations of the traits or features of organism and their offspring.



Not only does the fossil record not support this view, but the discovery of the Burgess Shale, with all sorts of suddenly-appearing species, ended support of Darwin by cognoscenti.

Once more?
Evidence inveighs strongly against such a Darwinian view.

No. Evidence, overwhelmingly, inveighs that evolution is the most likely explanation for the origin of the species.

So....why Darwin?

Because it makes more sense and is better supported by evidence, than competing theories.

"No. Most people are under the impression that evolution makes a lot more sense than fairy tales. Because it does."

'makes sense'????

Is that what you understand the methodology of science to be?

Which school did you fail out of?

 

[Steven_R]

Evolution is a FACT

God is a theory

The fact evinced by your post is that you are a moron.

1. Are you not able to see that the OP specifically references Darwin's theory?
2. Are you not aware that it is only Darwin and Marx's theory of evolution that is taught in all or almost all schools?
3. Do a little research and find out what "fact" means, and you may not embarrass yourself in the future.
4. Why bring up God?

Evolution is fact; just as gravity is fact, and microbes making one sick. There are theories to explain the fact of evolution, but it is a scientific fact that biologic organisms evolve.

What you presented in your OP was a bunch of red-herrings and other such nonsense that is prima facie evidence that you lack the ability to apply logic and critical thought processes- which is, in itself, an indictment of your educational background.

You must be a government school grad....you should learn to read more carefully, and might not appear the fool.

Note the title of the thread.

It doesn't say 'Evolution,' does it.

It says 'Darwin.'

And Darwin's theory is certainly not a fact.

Careful. You're half a step from saying "it's just a theory" and anyone who actually says that is either deliberately ignorant or just a fucking moron.

Watch your language.
The vulgarity reveals your frustration.

Rather than being 'careful,' I'll continue to be totally accurate and correct.

You should try it when you tire of being a dunce.

It isn't frustration; it's pity. You have this wonderful universe in front of you, including the incredible way life works, but you don't want to acknowledge it because it comes in conflict with your preconceived worldview that you found in a Bronze Age mythology. We've fought long and hard to find the answers to the questions "how does the universe function" and you'd rather stick you fingers in your ears and yell "lalala I can't hear you" because you just can't bear the thought that maybe, just maybe, you'll have to do some soul searching to reconcile your belief system with science.

I feel bad for the people who never heard of the discoveries we've made. You choose to be ignorant and then proudly wear that ignorance like it's a medal.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The fact evinced by your post is that you are a moron.

1. Are you not able to see that the OP specifically references Darwin's theory?
2. Are you not aware that it is only Darwin and Marx's theory of evolution that is taught in all or almost all schools?
3. Do a little research and find out what "fact" means, and you may not embarrass yourself in the future.
4. Why bring up God?

Evolution is fact; just as gravity is fact, and microbes making one sick. There are theories to explain the fact of evolution, but it is a scientific fact that biologic organisms evolve.

What you presented in your OP was a bunch of red-herrings and other such nonsense that is prima facie evidence that you lack the ability to apply logic and critical thought processes- which is, in itself, an indictment of your educational background.

You must be a government school grad....you should learn to read more carefully, and might not appear the fool.

Note the title of the thread.

It doesn't say 'Evolution,' does it.

It says 'Darwin.'

And Darwin's theory is certainly not a fact.

Careful. You're half a step from saying "it's just a theory" and anyone who actually says that is either deliberately ignorant or just a fucking moron.

Watch your language.
The vulgarity reveals your frustration.

Rather than being 'careful,' I'll continue to be totally accurate and correct.

You should try it when you tire of being a dunce.

It isn't frustration; it's pity. You have this wonderful universe in front of you, including the incredible way life works, but you don't want to acknowledge it because it comes in conflict with your preconceived worldview that you found in a Bronze Age mythology. We've fought long and hard to find the answers to the questions "how does the universe function" and you'd rather stick you fingers in your ears and yell "lalala I can't hear you" because you just can't bear the thought that maybe, just maybe, you'll have to do some soul searching to reconcile your belief system with science.

I feel bad for the people who never heard of the discoveries we've made. You choose to be ignorant and then proudly wear that ignorance like it's a medal.

Horsefeathers.

You're one of the mindless dolt who have been indoctrinated never to question the orthodoxy.


Proof?

Sure.

Why are there so many scientists who, as I've documented,question Darwin's theory.....and yet it is the only one taught in schools?

 

[Steven_R]

You've used cherry picked quotations as your "proof." You're simply afraid of what it might mean if Darwin's proposition is right. We know it is and we know far more about the mechanics of evolution than Darwin could ever have dreamed.

You talk about science orthodoxy and questioning, but you have yet to confront the flip side of that coin. What if the Bible is wrong? Then what else is it wrong about?

You simply can't take that chance, so Evolution and Darwin have to be wrong. They just have to be.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You've used cherry picked quotations as your "proof." You're simply afraid of what it might mean if Darwin's proposition is right. We know it is and we know far more about the mechanics of evolution than Darwin could ever have dreamed.

You talk about science orthodoxy and questioning, but you have yet to confront the flip side of that coin. What if the Bible is wrong? Then what else is it wrong about?

You simply can't take that chance, so Evolution and Darwin have to be wrong. They just have to be.

"You've used cherry picked quotations as your "proof."

Folks use that nonsense when they can't dispute the posts.


"You're simply afraid of what it might mean if Darwin's proposition is right. "
1. I fear nothing.
2. I've proven that Darwin wasn't right....yet here you are crying about it....looks like you're the one reeking of fear.

3. "You simply can't take that chance, so Evolution and Darwin have to be wrong. They just have to be."
The only thing I've documented as incorrect is Darwin's theory.

The proof that I've won....and you're a dunce....is that you're trying to bring other topics up.

Are you this dishonest in every area of your life?

 

[Thanatocoenosis]

You've used cherry picked quotations as your "proof." You're simply afraid of what it might mean if Darwin's proposition is right. We know it is and we know far more about the mechanics of evolution than Darwin could ever have dreamed.

You talk about science orthodoxy and questioning, but you have yet to confront the flip side of that coin. What if the Bible is wrong? Then what else is it wrong about?

You simply can't take that chance, so Evolution and Darwin have to be wrong. They just have to be.

"You've used cherry picked quotations as your "proof."

Folks use that nonsense when they can't dispute the posts.


"You're simply afraid of what it might mean if Darwin's proposition is right. "
1. I fear nothing.
2. I've proven that Darwin wasn't right....yet here you are crying about it....looks like you're the one reeking of fear.

3. "You simply can't take that chance, so Evolution and Darwin have to be wrong. They just have to be."
The only thing I've documented as incorrect is Darwin's theory.

The proof that I've won....and you're a dunce....is that you're trying to bring other topics up.

Are you this dishonest in every area of your life?

The only thing that you have "proven" is that you have a simplistic mind incapable of complex thought, and the inability to understand the scientific method and its intricacies associated with the most basic concepts of geology and biology.

You can harbor any beliefs that you want, but you can't have your own facts, and that is what your insipid nonsense in this thread is about- your refusal to accept basic facts.

Folks, what we are witnessing, here, is a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect: [it]... occurs where people fail to adequately assess their level of competence — or specifically, their incompetence — at a task and thus consider themselves much more competent than everyone else. This lack of awareness is attributed to their lower level of competence robbing them of the ability to critically analyse their performance, leading to a significant overestimate of themselves.


EDIT: you keep claiming that you have presented scientists that refute evolution. You have done no such thing. The consensus is clear on this. There is no dissension among geologists and biologists(the people that study evolution) of the fact of evolution.