Why Climate Change is everyones problem

[SSDD]

Oceans absorb C02 clean it and breath it back out....NASA does not know a lot about this phenomenon but this is an interesting link for you doomsday believers to educate yourselves....

Ocean acidification is already killing some species. It's getting very difficult to farm oysters on both coasts.

NASA knows about oceans absorbing CO2. They have analytical models for this and they can reproduce it in the lab.

Think about how many things emit CO2 compared to only forests/grasslands and the oceans absorbing it.

The writing is on the wall. We are screwed.

It is difficult to farm non native species...farming native species is easy peasy.

You are gullible, and terribly misinformed.

 

[SSDD]

Every generation in history has created their own doomsday scenario to live with...
The sky is always going to fall some believe....no matter how many facts you throw at them they still want to believe the worse....some get paid dearly or gain great power from it and some are truly gullible enough to believe the worse...

Have you even bothered to read the data and look at the graphs on what is happening? See NASA, DOE websites. The data is clear to the most casual observer. The RATE at which the earth and particularly the oceans are warming is faster than anything that has occurred in 55 million years on this planet. This is different that anything that has happened before.

Guess you have only looked a the sanitized version and have no idea of what is happening behind the scenes...

Here is some of that data...Look at what they are doing in iceland. Can you think of any rational, scientifically valid reason for altering those temperatures? And it isn't just iceland...the surface temperature record has been tampered with so heavily that I doubt that it will ever be possible to get a true baseline temperature again...this is just one example in thousands of obvious data tampering.

Here is the untampered with dat showing that it was warmer in iceland in the 1940's.

You are being duped, fooled, misinformed, and misguided by charlatans who are perfectly willing to simply make up whatever data they need to keep their scam going.

 

[SSDD]

Oceans absorb C02 clean it and breath it back out....NASA does not know a lot about this phenomenon but this is an interesting link for you doomsday believers to educate yourselves....

Ocean acidification is already killing some species. It's getting very difficult to farm oysters on both coasts.

NASA knows about oceans absorbing CO2. They have analytical models for this and they can reproduce it in the lab.

Think about how many things emit CO2 compared to only forests/grasslands and the oceans absorbing it.

The writing is on the wall. We are screwed.

I have a friend who is a scientist in NOAA. He told me Friday that Al Gore and company are making millions off their phony "climate change" scam.

He is ignoring my long counterpoint POST 14

Cause he can't even begin to understand what you wrote. He is a drone...incapable of questioning his programming. You may as well have posted an old time Burma Shave ad.

Within this vale.......


Of toil and sin......


Your head goes bald.......


But not your chin

 

[Sunsettommy]

Patriot52 has run off, avoiding replying several sourced based comments that answered his rant in some detail. He knows he can't answer them thus the chicken little boy runs off.

 

[SSDD]

Patriot52 has run off, avoiding replying several sourced based comments that answered his rant in some detail. He knows he can't answer them thus the chicken little boy runs off.

They only have two options...run away or dig the hole they find themselves in even deeper since producing actual observed measured evidence to support their claims is not an option.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Every generation in history has created their own doomsday scenario to live with...
The sky is always going to fall some believe....no matter how many facts you throw at them they still want to believe the worse....some get paid dearly or gain great power from it and some are truly gullible enough to believe the worse...

Have you even bothered to read the data and look at the graphs on what is happening? See NASA, DOE websites. The data is clear to the most casual observer. The RATE at which the earth and particularly the oceans are warming is faster than anything that has occurred in 55 million years on this planet. This is different that anything that has happened before.

Guess you have only looked a the sanitized version and have no idea of what is happening behind the scenes...

Here is some of that data...Look at what they are doing in iceland. Can you think of any rational, scientifically valid reason for altering those temperatures? And it isn't just iceland...the surface temperature record has been tampered with so heavily that I doubt that it will ever be possible to get a true baseline temperature again...this is just one example in thousands of obvious data tampering.

Here is the untampered with dat showing that it was warmer in iceland in the 1940's.

You are being duped, fooled, misinformed, and misguided by charlatans who are perfectly willing to simply make up whatever data they need to keep their scam going.

If it wasn't real scientists keeping real records this would have been lost.. The Fraud is so easily seen when you compare records just 10 years apart in publishing. I am going to bookmark and store these. Thanks for posting.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Every generation in history has created their own doomsday scenario to live with...
The sky is always going to fall some believe....no matter how many facts you throw at them they still want to believe the worse....some get paid dearly or gain great power from it and some are truly gullible enough to believe the worse...

Have you even bothered to read the data and look at the graphs on what is happening? See NASA, DOE websites. The data is clear to the most casual observer. The RATE at which the earth and particularly the oceans are warming is faster than anything that has occurred in 55 million years on this planet. This is different that anything that has happened before.

Guess you have only looked a the sanitized version and have no idea of what is happening behind the scenes...

Here is some of that data...Look at what they are doing in iceland. Can you think of any rational, scientifically valid reason for altering those temperatures? And it isn't just iceland...the surface temperature record has been tampered with so heavily that I doubt that it will ever be possible to get a true baseline temperature again...this is just one example in thousands of obvious data tampering.

Here is the untampered with dat showing that it was warmer in iceland in the 1940's.

You are being duped, fooled, misinformed, and misguided by charlatans who are perfectly willing to simply make up whatever data they need to keep their scam going.

If it wasn't real scientists keeping real records this would have been lost.. The Fraud is so easily seen when you compare records just 10 years apart in publishing. I am going to bookmark and store these. Thanks for posting.

You can find many examples with charts and links, HERE

 

[SSDD]

I am curious abu fart...what exactly do you think is funny about data tampering?

 

[Crick]

Your whole premise is bull shit...

And you would know, wouldn't you

Lets start with CO2's residency time in our atmosphere... You say its upwards of 1,000 years while the facts and science has shown it is just 3-30 years at a maximum..

Classic CO2 residency time is roughly 15 years per bomb pulse measurements of Carbon 14 isotopes put aloft by above ground nuclear testing. The idea of 1,000 years (or infinity or the IPCC's 100 years) is that there is an ongoing, two-way exchange with the oceans.

Next lets discuss your alleged warming... Current levels of CO2 at 400ppm are energy saturated. This means the molecule must release energy before accepting more... This means the molecules do not warm in our atmosphere and must have another molecule which can, such as water vapor...

That the CO2 in the atmosphere is saturated was refuted in the last century. As the atmosphere warms, it expands upwards and the radiating upper bounds grow higher. This increases the amount of energy that can be held. And, as has been pointed out to you repeatedly, the upper atmosphere contains virtually NO water vapor.

Your premise is an epic fail at the most rudimentary levels.. Water vapor and conduction/convection has reduced warming to 1/2 of the LOG rate CO2 is seen to produce in the lab... so water vapor is acting as a negative forcing, not a positive one (as the IPCC fear mongers say), in our atmosphere..

From 8.6.3.1 Water Vapour and Lapse Rate - AR4 WGI Chapter 8: Climate Models and their Evaluation

"Water vapour is the most important greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. Tropospheric water vapour concentration diminishes rapidly with height, since it is ultimately limited by saturation-specific humidity, which strongly decreases as temperature decreases. Nevertheless, these relatively low upper-tropospheric concentrations contribute disproportionately to the ‘natural’ greenhouse effect, both because temperature contrast with the surface increases with height, and because lower down the atmosphere is nearly opaque at wavelengths of strong water vapour absorption."

Water vapor is not a negative feedback.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The reality is that the CO2 emissions from cars are about equal to that of power plants in the U. S. This makes
every driver of an internal combustion engine vehicle a contributor to the problem. Car CO2 emissions do not just dissipate on the ground, they migrate up to the lower atmosphere where they can persist for up to 1000 years.

Uhmmmmm... No they do not... This is a hyped up bull shit lie from SKS and other AGW morons.. The average 1/2 life of CO2 is less than 7 years and no longer than about 30 years.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Water vapor is not a negative feedback.

You are an idiot... Please show us empirical evidence of your mid-tropospheric hot spot... I'll wait...

 

[Crick]

Fuck you. Show us proof that water vapor is a negative feedback. I am tired of your unsubstantiated assertions. You bring evidence with you about as often as I pay all my taxes.