Why Chris Christie is a bad idea for the GOP.

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  1. Trajan
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    uh huh and you do realize that if you force all of the blue dogs to vote against their own inclinations and those they serve you'll lose the house, senate seats and governorships?....oh wait...:eusa_think:
     
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    Trajan, you really do live in a black and white world... :rolleyes:
     
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    uhmm, sometimes, it depends. when it comes to hypocrisy, selectivity as you say you have little patience with generalizations, I have little patience when it comes to that....

    if you think joes remark required a more...... nuanced(?) return comment in the vein I made it, make your case.
     
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    Jroc believes his extremism is acceptable and the other is not is the point.

    He does not understand that both the far right and the far left, if in power, will endanger the Republic.
     
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    No.
     
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    Simply this: it presupposes (as I read it) that the objective is to maximize one's party representation -- rather than to govern. The same fallacy that produces the "RINO" tag. Methinks as long as we treat it as a sports event, we guarantee girdlock.

    Many of us don't even have a party.
     
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    frankly, it seems to me, governing has become become a matter of brute force. If arguing that chasing rinos/blue dogs vs. a majoirty is unhealthy? Its an argument one and and the same.

    I didn't vote for McCain becasue he overthrew his dearest principal, that told me he in effect was what he appeared and is inho, a guy that would go along to get along just to make a point of it.....thats not governing. At the end of the day I vote to see my self interests realized, I don't mind and would encourage compromise but theres a point where in you have to take a stand and get the job done and at this point, which requires the muscle to do so.
     
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    $64 question. If it comes down to evenly split support and a need for gallantry to save the wing, I'd put my money on Paul. Cruz seems like a self-righteous prick who'd take his ball and go home if he doesn't get his way.
     
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    The most disconcerting thing in American Politics today is how the TEA Party extremism in the Republican party is affecting the make up of BOTH the democrat and republican parties.

    There's been enough of us "RINO's" chased from the republican rank and file by extremism to make the democrats a much better reflection of the mainstream now than they've ever been.

    :dunno: Why can't the T's see how dangerous that is?
     
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    Trajan wrote, "I vote to see my self interests realized. . .".

    Makes sense to me.
     

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