Why Canadians love their healthcare system

[Toro]

For all practical intents and purposes yes, Canada's system is socialized medicine. The article doesn't mention whether the premium is payed to the single payer or to the govenment, but that is largely irrelevant. Even if it is the single payer it is heavily regualted by the government. More so than any insurer in the U.S.

Why do you lie?

A single payer system is not socialized medicine.

When the organization providing the product or service is vested in the government, ummm, yeah...it is. A government monopoly is a socialized business.

There are private clinics in Canada. You can go to them if you pay for it.

 

[Toro]

Tell me if I have it right:
- It's single payer, paid out of general fund. Every citizen has the right to walk into any hospital and get treatment at no cost (Other than their tax dollars).
- The clinics and hospitals work like the ER in the States: The most severe cases jump to the front of the line.
- Paid clinics/specialists and private insurance are available if one can afford them. But that person is still entitled to the single-payer system, and still has to pay for it.

Do I have that right? I believe I do, and if I do,
That's exactly what the fuck we should have here.

i have heard many Canadians say you cant buy private Health Ins. in Canada....

In Canada, a move toward a private healthcare option - Los Angeles Times

That is somewhat true but not entirely.

Healthcare is a provincial right. Provinces can offer whatever healthcare insurance they want. However, if a province wants to receive federal funding for healthcare, it must accept the terms set forth by the federal government. One of the terms is that private insurance for primary care cannot be offered in conjunction with federal funds. A province can allow for private primary insurance but it will not receive funds from Ottawa.

However, private clinics are allowed. You will pay for it out of your pocket though.

 

[Old Rocks]

Since the Canadian results are far better than the ones we see here in the States, they must be doing something right. When you get better results at less cost, I would have to say the system is better than what we have.

 

[driveby]

Move to Canada...Problem solved.

We thought about it, but it's too cold.

The Canadian winters will be like Florida's within a few years according to dopes like you and old rockhead, so what's the problem ?.........

 

[Cuyo]

Since the Canadian results are far better than the ones we see here in the States, they must be doing something right. When you get better results at less cost, I would have to say the system is better than what we have.

Seems like a no-brainer doesn't it? All the "Socialized" countries outlive us, and nobody spends on the stuff like us, in terms of dollars or percentages of GDP.

The real righties are against national plans because the current system has been good to them, as a source of funneling money up, up, up. The rest of the republicans, eg, most of the ones you see posting here, are just tricked into agreeing with them via misinformation and soundbytes.

See also: Military Industrial Complex, Capital Gains tax structure, Reaganomics.

 

[Chris]

Since the Canadian results are far better than the ones we see here in the States, they must be doing something right. When you get better results at less cost, I would have to say the system is better than what we have.

Seems like a no-brainer doesn't it? All the "Socialized" countries outlive us, and nobody spends on the stuff like us, in terms of dollars or percentages of GDP.

The real righties are against national plans because the current system has been good to them, as a source of funneling money up, up, up. The rest of the republicans, eg, most of the ones you see posting here, are just tricked into agreeing with them via misinformation and soundbytes.

See also: Military Industrial Complex, Capital Gains tax structure, Reaganomics.

Outstanding post. That's it in a nutshell.

And all these dumbass Republicans are being screwed by the big corporations and they continue to say "thank you sir, may I have another!"

 

[elvis]

Since the Canadian results are far better than the ones we see here in the States, they must be doing something right. When you get better results at less cost, I would have to say the system is better than what we have.

Seems like a no-brainer doesn't it? All the "Socialized" countries outlive us, and nobody spends on the stuff like us, in terms of dollars or percentages of GDP.

The real righties are against national plans because the current system has been good to them, as a source of funneling money up, up, up. The rest of the republicans, eg, most of the ones you see posting here, are just tricked into agreeing with them via misinformation and soundbytes.

See also: Military Industrial Complex, Capital Gains tax structure, Reaganomics.

Outstanding post. That's it in a nutshell.

And all these dumbass Republicans are being screwed by the big corporations and they continue to say "thank you sir, may I have another!"

no, that's what old rocks says when you pump him.

 

[Political Junky]

I doubt that Natasha Richardson's family thinks much of it at all.

You take one example and condemn an entire system?

Should we take one example of global warming and make a conclusion that global warming is certain?

Ms Richardson refused medical help, and they went away.

 

[Contumacious]

Why Canadians love their healthcare system

Because if they get seriously ill they can come to the US.

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[Cuyo]

I'm both a health-care-card-carrying Canadian resident and an uninsured American citizen who regularly sees doctors on both sides of the border. As such, I'm in a unique position to address the pros and cons of both systems first-hand. If we're going to have this conversation, it would be great if we could start out (for once) with actual facts, instead of ideological posturing, wishful thinking, hearsay, and random guessing about how things get done up here.

To that end, here's the first of a two-part series aimed at busting the common myths Americans routinely tell each other about Canadian health care. When the right-wing hysterics drag out these hoary old bogeymen, this time, we need to be armed and ready to blast them into straw. Because, mostly, straw is all they're made of.

1. Canada's health care system is "socialized medicine."
False.

Mythbusting Canadian Health Care -- Part I | OurFuture.org

For all practical intents and purposes yes, Canada's system is socialized medicine. The article doesn't mention whether the premium is payed to the single payer or to the govenment, but that is largely irrelevant. Even if it is the single payer it is heavily regualted by the government. More so than any insurer in the U.S.

"Socialized Medicine" refers to the entire system being a government instrument. Doctors, hospital workers, ambulance drivers, all the bookkeepers, etc., are government employees. Single payer is not "Socialized Medicine."

 

[jeffrockit]

Why Canadians love their healthcare system

Because if they get seriously ill they can come to the US.

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Just like their Premier did when he needed heart surgery!
The Canadian Press: 'My heart, my choice,' Williams says, defending decision for U.S. heart surgery

 

[Chris]

Why Canadians love their healthcare system

Because if they get seriously ill they can come to the US.

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And a lot of Americans go to Canada and Mexico because healthcare is cheaper.

So the rich in America get the best healthcare.

Isn't that a great system?

If you are rich you get great healthcare, and if you are poor you get none.