Why Canadians love their healthcare system

Then post the reference, bozo. I would ask what sort of idiot makes a reader request a reference for a quote, but I already know the answer - you.

No shit spouting. But monkeys fling poo when angered and evidently you are angry that this case is a perfect example of how the government made a life and death decision and the poor person died.


I'm not angry in the slightest...just answering in kind.

From your own link

It's impossible for me to comment specifically about her case, but what I could say is ... driving to Mont Tremblant from the city (Montreal) is a 2 1/2-hour trip, and the closest trauma center is in the city.

Sounds like the govt had nothing to do with it. All your link suggests is that some people surmised after the fact....so what?
 
She refused help. Not the medicos fault....
There was no air evac available for her.

You should review the case.

Then again, maybe you should..

Paramedics and an ambulance which initially responded to the accident were told they were not needed and left.[17] Refusing medical attention, she returned to her hotel room and about three hours later was taken to a local hospital in Sainte-Agathe-des-Monts after complaining of a headache.
Exactly
 
Then post the reference, bozo. I would ask what sort of idiot makes a reader request a reference for a quote, but I already know the answer - you.

No shit spouting. But monkeys fling poo when angered and evidently you are angry that this case is a perfect example of how the government made a life and death decision and the poor person died.


I'm not angry in the slightest...just answering in kind.

From your own link

It's impossible for me to comment specifically about her case, but what I could say is ... driving to Mont Tremblant from the city (Montreal) is a 2 1/2-hour trip, and the closest trauma center is in the city.

Sounds like the govt had nothing to do with it. All your link suggests is that some people surmised after the fact....so what?
The government were the ones who made the decision not to have air evac available in that area.

And, for the record, your plagiarism disgusted me. When called on it, you got angry and started flinging poo. Plagiarists, like thieves, piss me off.
 
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The government were the ones who made the decision not to have air evac available in that area.

And, for the record, your plagiarism disgusted me. When called on it, you got angry and started flinging poo. Plagiarists, like thieves, piss me off.

1) I wasn't angry
2) Stop being a drama queen. You know damn well it wasn't plagerising. In order to make that work my own, I would have had to been on the scene of the incident. You know I wasn't, so stop being disingenuous with your false indignation. Plus I italicised the piece for a reason. Why didn't I link? Because I couldn't be bothered doing so. Simple as that.
3) There might be a myriad of reasons that they didn't have a medivac there. That aside, the paramedics were told to go away....
4) So this one incident 'proves' that somehow the Canandian health system is worse than America's? Sure it does...
 
Then post the reference, bozo. I would ask what sort of idiot makes a reader request a reference for a quote, but I already know the answer - you.

No shit spouting. But monkeys fling poo when angered and evidently you are angry that this case is a perfect example of how the government made a life and death decision and the poor person died.


I'm not angry in the slightest...just answering in kind.

From your own link

It's impossible for me to comment specifically about her case, but what I could say is ... driving to Mont Tremblant from the city (Montreal) is a 2 1/2-hour trip, and the closest trauma center is in the city.

Sounds like the govt had nothing to do with it. All your link suggests is that some people surmised after the fact....so what?
The government were the ones who made the decision not to have air evac available in that area.

And, for the record, your plagiarism disgusted me. When called on it, you got angry and started flinging poo. Plagiarists, like thieves, piss me off.

No, Si, what pisses you off is losing an arguement because you are too lazy to research the case or data. You would rather just spout right wingnut talking points.
 
The government were the ones who made the decision not to have air evac available in that area.

And, for the record, your plagiarism disgusted me. When called on it, you got angry and started flinging poo. Plagiarists, like thieves, piss me off.

1) I wasn't angry
Oh? You fling poo when happy?

.... 2) Stop being a drama queen. You know damn well it wasn't plagerising. In order to make that work my own, I would have had to been on the scene of the incident. You know I wasn't, so stop being disingenuous with your false indignation. Plus I italicised the piece for a reason. Why didn't I link? Because I couldn't be bothered doing so. Simple as that. ....
Most plagiarism is due to intellectual laziness, so you're not alone.

And, you really are clueless about what plagiarism is. Read.
.... 3) There might be a myriad of reasons that they didn't have a medivac there. That aside, the paramedics were told to go away....
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As I originally said, you need to brush up on the details. The Canadian government made the decision not to have air evac available in that area.

(I wish there was a way to just play a broken record for you, but facts elude you, whether on a broken record or not.)
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4) So this one incident 'proves' that somehow the Canandian health system is worse than America's? Sure it does...
It supports my original claim - not some shit you made up about what I said - that I bet her family doesn't think much of the Canadian system.
 
]Oh? You fling poo when happy?

Most plagiarism is due to intellectual laziness, so you're not alone.

And, you really are clueless about what plagiarism is. Read.
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As I originally said, you need to brush up on the details. The Canadian government made the decision not to have air evac available in that area.

(I wish there was a way to just play a broken record for you, but facts elude you, whether on a broken record or not.)
It supports my original claim - not some shit you made up about what I said - that I bet her family doesn't think much of the Canadian system.

1) I'm not flinging poo. You saying so, doesn't make it so. You started out by calling me an idiot, which suggests you're the one who is angry
2) Yes, being a full time journalist and published author I do know what plagerism is. And I know what it's not, too. I know it's not somebody who italicises a point they made, only for some DQ to take a cheap shot like it is anything meaningful
3) So what if the Canadians don't have a medivac and that particular junction. Are you saying there are medivacs available everywhere in the US? That aside, she still told them to go away.
4) Of course you were trying to make the Canadian health care system look bad by your snide comments. Your literalist fantasies - ie trying to devolve anything you say of any deeper meaning - may work on the simpletons that surround you in real life. Doesn't wash on a messageboard, especially in the wider meaning of the title of this thread...
5) So now quoting an Anderson Cooper blog passes for 'evidence' in Si Modo land? That explains a lot.....
 
]Oh? You fling poo when happy?

Most plagiarism is due to intellectual laziness, so you're not alone.

And, you really are clueless about what plagiarism is. Read.
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As I originally said, you need to brush up on the details. The Canadian government made the decision not to have air evac available in that area.

(I wish there was a way to just play a broken record for you, but facts elude you, whether on a broken record or not.)
It supports my original claim - not some shit you made up about what I said - that I bet her family doesn't think much of the Canadian system.

1) I'm not flinging poo. You saying so, doesn't make it so. You started out by calling me an idiot, which suggests you're the one who is angry
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Yup. I call all plagiarists idiots. And, there is no suggestion about my anger towards plagiarists and thieves. I explicitly stated that both piss me off.

.... 2) Yes, being a full time journalist and published author I do know what plagerism is.
And I know what it's not, too. I know it's not somebody who italicises a point they made, only for some DQ to take a cheap shot like it is anything meaningful....
Then you should know better than to present another's work as if it is your own. Typing words from another without citing them is what you did.

.... 3) 'So what' if the Canadians don't have a medivac and that particular junction.
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So what a head trauma patient didn't get to those who can treat it in time. :cuckoo:
.... Are you saying there are medivacs available everywhere in the US? That aside, she still told them to go away.
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Well, suspicions confirmed. You don't read the links others provide to you.

.... 4) Of course you were trying to make the Canadian health care system look bad by your snide comments. ....
You're a mind reader, now? Amazing.
.... Your literalist fantasies - ie trying to devolve anything you say of any deeper meaning - may work on the simpletons that surround you in real life. Doesn't wash on a messageboard, especially in the wider meaning of the title of this thread...

....
Typical leftist - can't take personal responsibility for his own error of inference.
.... 5) So now quoting an Anderson Cooper blog passes for 'evidence' in Si Modo land? That explains a lot.....
I would post other links, but you don't read them or even comprehend them, apparently. No sense in my wasting my time doing that, now. :eusa_wall:
 
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I have some experience with the Canadian healthcare system. I broke an ankle while hiking on Cape Breton Island.

The attention I received was every bit as good as ours and a whole lot cheaper.
 
Sounds like you have the best of both worlds.
After watching all those healthy, happy Canadian athletes all week, one is hard pressed to say they are deprived in any way.

and all the other athletes looked sick and miserable....do you ever read the fucking asinine shit you post?.....
 
Tell me if I have it right:
- It's single payer, paid out of general fund. Every citizen has the right to walk into any hospital and get treatment at no cost (Other than their tax dollars).
- The clinics and hospitals work like the ER in the States: The most severe cases jump to the front of the line.
- Paid clinics/specialists and private insurance are available if one can afford them. But that person is still entitled to the single-payer system, and still has to pay for it.

Do I have that right? I believe I do, and if I do,
That's exactly what the fuck we should have here.
i have heard many Canadians say you cant buy private Health Ins. in Canada....

In Canada, a move toward a private healthcare option - Los Angeles Times
 
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I'm both a health-care-card-carrying Canadian resident and an uninsured American citizen who regularly sees doctors on both sides of the border. As such, I'm in a unique position to address the pros and cons of both systems first-hand. If we're going to have this conversation, it would be great if we could start out (for once) with actual facts, instead of ideological posturing, wishful thinking, hearsay, and random guessing about how things get done up here.

To that end, here's the first of a two-part series aimed at busting the common myths Americans routinely tell each other about Canadian health care. When the right-wing hysterics drag out these hoary old bogeymen, this time, we need to be armed and ready to blast them into straw. Because, mostly, straw is all they're made of.

1. Canada's health care system is "socialized medicine."
False.

Mythbusting Canadian Health Care -- Part I | OurFuture.org

For all practical intents and purposes yes, Canada's system is socialized medicine. The article doesn't mention whether the premium is payed to the single payer or to the govenment, but that is largely irrelevant. Even if it is the single payer it is heavily regualted by the government. More so than any insurer in the U.S.
 
Sounds like you have the best of both worlds.
After watching all those healthy, happy Canadian athletes all week, one is hard pressed to say they are deprived in any way.

and all the other athletes looked sick and miserable....do you ever read the fucking asinine shit you post?.....
Your conclusion is off the wall. What in hell are you talking about?
 
Because when they get sick, they die.
They don't have to live to ripe old ages suffering in the indignity of wondering if they can make it to the toilet in time before soiling themselves.
Just sayin'.....

Nice try. My sister's mother in law who is Canadian is well into her 90's and has been well taken care of by the Canadian system.
 
I'm both a health-care-card-carrying Canadian resident and an uninsured American citizen who regularly sees doctors on both sides of the border. As such, I'm in a unique position to address the pros and cons of both systems first-hand. If we're going to have this conversation, it would be great if we could start out (for once) with actual facts, instead of ideological posturing, wishful thinking, hearsay, and random guessing about how things get done up here.

To that end, here's the first of a two-part series aimed at busting the common myths Americans routinely tell each other about Canadian health care. When the right-wing hysterics drag out these hoary old bogeymen, this time, we need to be armed and ready to blast them into straw. Because, mostly, straw is all they're made of.

1. Canada's health care system is "socialized medicine."
False.

Mythbusting Canadian Health Care -- Part I | OurFuture.org

For all practical intents and purposes yes, Canada's system is socialized medicine. The article doesn't mention whether the premium is payed to the single payer or to the govenment, but that is largely irrelevant. Even if it is the single payer it is heavily regualted by the government. More so than any insurer in the U.S.

Why do you lie?

A single payer system is not socialized medicine.
 
I'm both a health-care-card-carrying Canadian resident and an uninsured American citizen who regularly sees doctors on both sides of the border. As such, I'm in a unique position to address the pros and cons of both systems first-hand. If we're going to have this conversation, it would be great if we could start out (for once) with actual facts, instead of ideological posturing, wishful thinking, hearsay, and random guessing about how things get done up here.

To that end, here's the first of a two-part series aimed at busting the common myths Americans routinely tell each other about Canadian health care. When the right-wing hysterics drag out these hoary old bogeymen, this time, we need to be armed and ready to blast them into straw. Because, mostly, straw is all they're made of.

1. Canada's health care system is "socialized medicine."
False.

Mythbusting Canadian Health Care -- Part I | OurFuture.org

For all practical intents and purposes yes, Canada's system is socialized medicine. The article doesn't mention whether the premium is payed to the single payer or to the govenment, but that is largely irrelevant. Even if it is the single payer it is heavily regualted by the government. More so than any insurer in the U.S.

Why do you lie?

A single payer system is not socialized medicine.
When the organization providing the product or service is vested in the government, ummm, yeah...it is. A government monopoly is a socialized business.
 

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