Why businesses are leaving the country

[LilOlLady]

I am watching 60 Minutes now about a report on overseas tax havens for U.S. companies that Obama has nothing to do with and right wing bellies in congress will not let him fix. They have blackmailed Obama to either raise taxes on the middel class or none at all. Obama chose not to raise taxes on the middle class and caved.
Right Wing Soft Bellies lobbyist.

Well holly shit if its on 60 minutes it must be true......

DAN RATHER IS LAUGHING

Holy shit, You must know that tax breaks and offshore tax havens have absolutely nothing to do with 60 minutes reporting on it.

 

[Texanmike]

WHY BUSINESSES ARE LEAVING THE COUNTRY
Or states.

Not because of taxes because Dead Beat Bush gave them tax breaks. It’s because they want cheap unregulated labor. (less protections and benefits for workers) Cannot be because they are afraid of what Obama may do because Congress want let him do anything. Or they are moving to states that have less regulations, worker portection, no benefits and unlimited supple of cheap illegal labor like non-union Fort Worth, Texas. (Governed by Rick Perry)
Jobs lost and unemployment has nothing to do with Obama but every thing to do with right wing soft bellies and their tax cut, less regulation and cheap labor overseas. How do Obama fix this??


Companies with the fattest tax breaks
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/In ... reaks.aspx

10 Big Businesses That Have Moved Their Headquarters Abroad to Pay Less U.S. Taxes
http://www.focus.com/fyi/10-big-busines ... ed-abroad/

What does all these companies have in common? They all left during Dead Beat Bush’s reign.
Obama has nothing to do with job loss and unemployment, 17 million americans on Medicaid and food stamps but right wing soft bellies do and they want him to but not by taxing businesses that leave the country? So they will have nothing to gain by leaving.

Let me make it simple for you. FREE TRADE.

Simply put, the cost of living in under/developing countries is so low that unless you levy tariffs on products coming in from them it will always be advantageous to produce things in those countries.

I could give a damn about "living wages" or "working conditions", let the labor force work that out... the issue is we don't charge tariffs.

And before you give me the "but but but, the working conditions are terrible"... yes, that may be true... but they have jobs that provide them an income don't they? How's that double digit unemployment working? If you are going to maintain a higher standard of living then "free trade" agreements won't work.


Mike

 

[Londoner]

American transnationals fund elections and staff government.

Government creates the legal framework for these corporations to access sweatshop labor and resources in places where rivers can be polluted and human rights denied.

To protect its interest in labor and resources, the U.S. installs leaders who crush their own people (to create the political and social conditions of cheap labor. Remember: cheap labor and resources is the point of capitalism). Or did you think $3 dollar shirts from Walmart came from good places with free populations and safe drinking water? [It's funny that Americans never stop to think why certain goods are so cheap]

REGARDLESS: The GOP says that business left the country because of taxes and regulations. However, taxes and regulations have been crafted into one large subsidy driven loophole: most large corporations pay no taxes in the United States of America. The regulatory structure has been completely captured by the regulated. The reason business has the country is two fold. 1) Sweatshop labor, e.g., Nike would rather get their shoes made in a brutal society where workers live in hovels and make less than $1 a day. 2) The U.S. without easy money, lacks consumers. After 30 years of squeezing the middle class in favor of tax cuts for the wealthy we have finally gotten rid of the American consumer, who doesn't make enough in wages and benefits to sustain the American economy. Initially, we tried to fix this problem with credit and fancy debt schemes. We broke the bank.

(You want to know why businesses haven't left places like germany. Because they still have a social safety net which gives them consumers)

The Reagan dream of cheap labor in America had one unfortunate effect: we fired the American consumer, who depended on high wages, benefits, and the kind of government support that now goes to transnationals in the form of subsidies and tax breaks. The GOP doesn't get it. We built a consumption economy around particular set of postwar policies which increased the purchasing power of the middle class. Reagan convinced us to end those policies so we could give higher tax breaks to the richest Americans. He said the money and jobs would trickle down. This turned out to be false over the long haul. The jobs trickled overseas, and the money trickled into elections, think tanks, popular media, and dynastic inheritances. The real economy grew increasingly dependent on Master Cards, Visas and any number of debt gimmicks. Meanwhile, the wealthy had an unprecedented surplus of wealth that could not be effectively invested. So Wall Street created any number of toxic hedges and derivatives to maintain high returns. We broke the bank.

Reagan promised the money would trickle down to the middle class and real economy.

We believed him.

And the country died.

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

Bottom line only Pub marketing types, CEOs- they suq. And 60 Minutes are no fools, unlike you...

 

[Charles_Main]

WHY BUSINESSES ARE LEAVING THE COUNTRY
Or states.

Not because of taxes because Dead Beat Bush gave them tax breaks. It’s because they want cheap unregulated labor. (less protections and benefits for workers) Cannot be because they are afraid of what Obama may do because Congress want let him do anything. Or they are moving to states that have less regulations, worker portection, no benefits and unlimited supple of cheap illegal labor like non-union Fort Worth, Texas. (Governed by Rick Perry)
Jobs lost and unemployment has nothing to do with Obama but every thing to do with right wing soft bellies and their tax cut, less regulation and cheap labor overseas. How do Obama fix this??


Companies with the fattest tax breaks
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/In ... reaks.aspx

10 Big Businesses That Have Moved Their Headquarters Abroad to Pay Less U.S. Taxes
http://www.focus.com/fyi/10-big-busines ... ed-abroad/

What does all these companies have in common? They all left during Dead Beat Bush’s reign.
Obama has nothing to do with job loss and unemployment, 17 million americans on Medicaid and food stamps but right wing soft bellies do and they want him to but not by taxing businesses that leave the country? So they will have nothing to gain by leaving.

Thanks for agreeing with what I have said for years.

Business is leaving America to find a more Favorable business environment. Our Labor Costs to much, Our Regulations are to burdening, and yes our taxes are to high.

Why would any Company pay 5 times as much to locate here, when they can pay so much less somewhere else.

And don't give me that "they should be patriotic BS". Their Job is to do what is best for their Company to keep it competitive and Profitable.

If we want them to stay, We have to take steps to be more Attractive to Business, Not heap on more Regulations and Raise Cooperate Taxes even Higher, while allowing Unions to drive the Cost of Employing Americans so high nobody can Locate here and hope to Compete.

A happy middle must be found, You can not have it both ways. Either we Have Super high wages, and Benefits, Burdening Regulations and High Business taxes, and therefore nobody wants to do Business here. Or we find ways to make them want to do Business here. Period.

 

[Oldstyle]

WHY BUSINESSES ARE LEAVING THE COUNTRY
Or states.

Not because of taxes because Dead Beat Bush gave them tax breaks. It’s because they want cheap unregulated labor. (less protections and benefits for workers) Cannot be because they are afraid of what Obama may do because Congress want let him do anything. Or they are moving to states that have less regulations, worker portection, no benefits and unlimited supple of cheap illegal labor like non-union Fort Worth, Texas. (Governed by Rick Perry)
Jobs lost and unemployment has nothing to do with Obama but every thing to do with right wing soft bellies and their tax cut, less regulation and cheap labor overseas. How do Obama fix this??

Companies with the fattest tax breaks
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/In ... reaks.aspx

10 Big Businesses That Have Moved Their Headquarters Abroad to Pay Less U.S. Taxes
http://www.focus.com/fyi/10-big-busines ... ed-abroad/

What does all these companies have in common? They all left during Dead Beat Bush’s reign.
Obama has nothing to do with job loss and unemployment, 17 million americans on Medicaid and food stamps but right wing soft bellies do and they want him to but not by taxing businesses that leave the country? So they will have nothing to gain by leaving.

Gee, think you could work anymore far left talking points into one post?

Businesses are leaving States that are controlled by unions who care more about their own pensions and benefit packages than they do about whether or not the businesses that employ them can be viable under the labor deals that are forced upon them. Case in point? GM taking a loss on every car coming off their Detroit assembly line because the cost of labor was so out of control.

Multinational corporations are choosing to build factories over seas because they don't know what effect the costs of Obama Care and EPA regulations are going to have on their bottom line and they fear that Obama and his little progressive friends see any profits that they DO make as something to be confiscated. Now why would any CEO choose to build here with an Administration in power who hates the Private Sector? You'd have to either be a complete idiot...or you'd have to have worked out a deal with the progressives like GE did.

As for illegals? Heck they're leaving the country as well because our economy is in worse shape than even Mexico's despite their being in the middle of a raging drug war. THAT'S how bad it is in the US right now!

 

[kiwiman127]

WHY BUSINESSES ARE LEAVING THE COUNTRY
Or states.

Not because of taxes because Dead Beat Bush gave them tax breaks. It’s because they want cheap unregulated labor. (less protections and benefits for workers) Cannot be because they are afraid of what Obama may do because Congress want let him do anything. Or they are moving to states that have less regulations, worker portection, no benefits and unlimited supple of cheap illegal labor like non-union Fort Worth, Texas. (Governed by Rick Perry)
Jobs lost and unemployment has nothing to do with Obama but every thing to do with right wing soft bellies and their tax cut, less regulation and cheap labor overseas. How do Obama fix this??

Companies with the fattest tax breaks
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/In ... reaks.aspx

10 Big Businesses That Have Moved Their Headquarters Abroad to Pay Less U.S. Taxes
http://www.focus.com/fyi/10-big-busines ... ed-abroad/

What does all these companies have in common? They all left during Dead Beat Bush’s reign.
Obama has nothing to do with job loss and unemployment, 17 million americans on Medicaid and food stamps but right wing soft bellies do and they want him to but not by taxing businesses that leave the country? So they will have nothing to gain by leaving.

Gee, think you could work anymore far left talking points into one post?

Businesses are leaving States that are controlled by unions who care more about their own pensions and benefit packages than they do about whether or not the businesses that employ them can be viable under the labor deals that are forced upon them. Case in point? GM taking a loss on every car coming off their Detroit assembly line because the cost of labor was so out of control.

Multinational corporations are choosing to build factories over seas because they don't know what effect the costs of Obama Care and EPA regulations are going to have on their bottom line and they fear that Obama and his little progressive friends see any profits that they DO make as something to be confiscated. Now why would any CEO choose to build here with an Administration in power who hates the Private Sector? You'd have to either be a complete idiot...or you'd have to have worked out a deal with the progressives like GE did.

As for illegals? Heck they're leaving the country as well because our economy is in worse shape than even Mexico's despite their being in the middle of a raging drug war. THAT'S how bad it is in the US right now!

Actually, unions make up less than 12% of the national workforce, so blaming the unions is a mute point.

As far as Obamacare ,,,mandates are out the window and with mandates out the window, Obamacare is basically out the window (Yaaaa!). Regarding the EPA,,,what new laws are they going to install with a GOP controlled House? The EPA will only be able to enforce current laws,,so where's the mystery?

Finally, the CEO's are seeing record profits and that's the result of an administration that hates the Private Sector?

 

[kiwiman127]

The current policies of the liberal is to make things easier for the less well off like taking down tax rates and making them higher for the better off. Probably for millions like you. I bet you enjoy at at least two entitlement. LMOFAO

Making things easier for certain people is not the job of government. You want to help the poor?..Join a church or something, get involved, taking more money from families making $250,000 per year is not going to do anything but kill our economy.

The wealthy have never had it so good regarding their tax rates and the Capital Gains tax levels. As a matter of fact, last year their percentage of the economy grew to a record level.
So, taking all of that into context, where are the jobs being created by the job creation class? Try offshore.

 

[Oldstyle]

WHY BUSINESSES ARE LEAVING THE COUNTRY
Or states.

Not because of taxes because Dead Beat Bush gave them tax breaks. It’s because they want cheap unregulated labor. (less protections and benefits for workers) Cannot be because they are afraid of what Obama may do because Congress want let him do anything. Or they are moving to states that have less regulations, worker portection, no benefits and unlimited supple of cheap illegal labor like non-union Fort Worth, Texas. (Governed by Rick Perry)
Jobs lost and unemployment has nothing to do with Obama but every thing to do with right wing soft bellies and their tax cut, less regulation and cheap labor overseas. How do Obama fix this??

Companies with the fattest tax breaks
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/In ... reaks.aspx

10 Big Businesses That Have Moved Their Headquarters Abroad to Pay Less U.S. Taxes
http://www.focus.com/fyi/10-big-busines ... ed-abroad/

What does all these companies have in common? They all left during Dead Beat Bush’s reign.
Obama has nothing to do with job loss and unemployment, 17 million americans on Medicaid and food stamps but right wing soft bellies do and they want him to but not by taxing businesses that leave the country? So they will have nothing to gain by leaving.

Gee, think you could work anymore far left talking points into one post?

Businesses are leaving States that are controlled by unions who care more about their own pensions and benefit packages than they do about whether or not the businesses that employ them can be viable under the labor deals that are forced upon them. Case in point? GM taking a loss on every car coming off their Detroit assembly line because the cost of labor was so out of control.

Multinational corporations are choosing to build factories over seas because they don't know what effect the costs of Obama Care and EPA regulations are going to have on their bottom line and they fear that Obama and his little progressive friends see any profits that they DO make as something to be confiscated. Now why would any CEO choose to build here with an Administration in power who hates the Private Sector? You'd have to either be a complete idiot...or you'd have to have worked out a deal with the progressives like GE did.

As for illegals? Heck they're leaving the country as well because our economy is in worse shape than even Mexico's despite their being in the middle of a raging drug war. THAT'S how bad it is in the US right now!

Actually, unions make up less than 12% of the national workforce, so blaming the unions is a mute point.

As far as Obamacare ,,,mandates are out the window and with mandates out the window, Obamacare is basically out the window (Yaaaa!). Regarding the EPA,,,what new laws are they going to install with a GOP controlled House? The EPA will only be able to enforce current laws,,so where's the mystery?

Finally, the CEO's are seeing record profits and that's the result of an administration that hates the Private Sector?

Unions are making up less and less of the national workforce because they haven't done what unions were invented to do...protect workers. Unions protect themselves and could care less about the workers they portend to represent.

The progressives have bypassed the Congress completely when it comes to EPA regulations. The EPA doesn't have to wait for Congress to pass laws regarding standards...they've been given the power to call the shot on standards THEMSELVES. That power was given to them by the Obama Administration.

Corporations are seeing record profits BECAUSE they have cut the size of their workforces in response to legislation either passed or proposed by the Obama Administration. And if you look at the body of legislation that HAS been passed or proposed by this Administration, it's hard to come away with any other view but that they DO hate the Private Sector.