Why Assad Must Go – Analysis

Assad was democratically elected

he is a secular man

He stays..

what is so hard to understand about that? :dunno:
 
Assad is bad, but the people who want to take over have the potential of being even worse . . . obviously. We should not be involved in any of these ME wars because we aren't familiar with the actors or their roles. It's a dangerous game.
The main reason for getting rid of Assad, is all attention can be directed at ISIS. There are dozens of rebel groups fighting the regime of President Assad, some of whom have also fought each other. ISIS is fighting all Rebel groups except for a few rebel group allies. With Assad out of the picture, most rebel groups will turn their full attention to ISIS. Turkey and Saudi Arabia will join in with Iraq forces and the Kurds. Iran would take their que from Russia.

How do you know what will happen? You mean that is what you think and hope would happen. OR ISIS and those afraid of them or aligned with them could take over like they have in Iraq. Once you don't have a functional government, who knows what can happen?
 
Assad was democratically elected

he is a secular man

He stays..

what is so hard to understand about that? :dunno:

Democratically elected? Er.... He took over from his father, the Assads have been in power for a long time.

Assad has had presidential elections. In 2014 he won 88.7% of the vote. The EU, USA and GCC dismissed it as illegitimate.

In 2007 there was another one, Assad being the only candidate, and he got 97% of the vote.

Seeing as in 2014 many refugees had left and fighting made it difficult to vote, the fact that about the same amount of people voted as in 2007, makes it seem like the whole thing is a scam. In 2007 that was with 95% turnout. 11.9 million people could vote. That from 18 million population.
 
Assad was democratically elected

he is a secular man

He stays..

what is so hard to understand about that? :dunno:

Can you tell us who was it that ran against him?

Hassan al-Nouri and Maher Hajjar


The first claimed a PhD from JFK University, turned out to be from Kennedy Western University which was closed down in 2009 for basically being a "come buy a degree from us" sort of place. Based in Wyoming.

The second was an MP for Aleppo.

To stand as candidate you need 35 MPs to support your candidacy.

Currently only 5 MPs are from an opposition party, there are 77 independents.

So, any candidate must get nominated from independents, which Hajjar stands as, or from the ruling party.
 
Assad is bad, but the people who want to take over have the potential of being even worse . . . obviously. We should not be involved in any of these ME wars because we aren't familiar with the actors or their roles. It's a dangerous game.
The main reason for getting rid of Assad, is all attention can be directed at ISIS. There are dozens of rebel groups fighting the regime of President Assad, some of whom have also fought each other. ISIS is fighting all Rebel groups except for a few rebel group allies. With Assad out of the picture, most rebel groups will turn their full attention to ISIS. Turkey and Saudi Arabia will join in with Iraq forces and the Kurds. Iran would take their que from Russia.

How do you know what will happen? You mean that is what you think and hope would happen. OR ISIS and those afraid of them or aligned with them could take over like they have in Iraq. Once you don't have a functional government, who knows what can happen?
Functioning government???
 
Assad is bad, but the people who want to take over have the potential of being even worse . . . obviously. We should not be involved in any of these ME wars because we aren't familiar with the actors or their roles. It's a dangerous game.
The main reason for getting rid of Assad, is all attention can be directed at ISIS. There are dozens of rebel groups fighting the regime of President Assad, some of whom have also fought each other. ISIS is fighting all Rebel groups except for a few rebel group allies. With Assad out of the picture, most rebel groups will turn their full attention to ISIS. Turkey and Saudi Arabia will join in with Iraq forces and the Kurds. Iran would take their que from Russia.

How do you know what will happen? You mean that is what you think and hope would happen. OR ISIS and those afraid of them or aligned with them could take over like they have in Iraq. Once you don't have a functional government, who knows what can happen?
Functioning government???

Functional government?
 
The election in Syria was much more fair than the elections in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Bahrain, or almost any other Arab country except for Lebanon and maybe Tunisia.
 
I don't agree with what the OP posted at all

nothing new there LOL

if not Assad who then????

who???

more Arab Spring garbage?????

no way



Assad stays.....We are with Putin in this... not ISIS ,,,like Silly Sally is.

Did you have your therapy session today? Meanwhile, in all of Syria, once ISIS has been gotten rid of, are you trying to tell us that there is not one person around who is capable of running a country. The Syrians are not stupid people, so there are probably several around who can do the job. However, I get you. You like to see brutal tyrants hanging around.
Some people need a boot on their neck for their own good. This region is full of Tyrants because they are the only ones capable of keeping a lid on the ones like ISIS. They don't do this by being nice.................

There are a lot of Brutal Dictators over there......now and in the past..........For the same reason. The Ottoman Empire held the region...........They were not nice people.

The Shah of Iran was considered a Brutal Dictator..........Who suppressed his people.....yet under his rule they lived more like a Western Society..........They could go to the BEACH..............OMFG................and women could show their faces in public.....................OMFG.........................The people he was Brutal to were the ones who eventually took the place.....................Who installed RELIGIOUS RULE................and now the place sucks...........The Brutal Man kept the lid on the place.

Assad Brutal.
Saddam Brutal
and so on..............
 
I don't agree with what the OP posted at all

nothing new there LOL

if not Assad who then????

who???

more Arab Spring garbage?????

no way



Assad stays.....We are with Putin in this... not ISIS ,,,like Silly Sally is.

Did you have your therapy session today? Meanwhile, in all of Syria, once ISIS has been gotten rid of, are you trying to tell us that there is not one person around who is capable of running a country. The Syrians are not stupid people, so there are probably several around who can do the job. However, I get you. You like to see brutal tyrants hanging around.
Some people need a boot on their neck for their own good. This region is full of Tyrants because they are the only ones capable of keeping a lid on the ones like ISIS. They don't do this by being nice.................

There are a lot of Brutal Dictators over there......now and in the past..........For the same reason. The Ottoman Empire held the region...........They were not nice people.

The Shah of Iran was considered a Brutal Dictator..........Who suppressed his people.....yet under his rule they lived more like a Western Society..........They could go to the BEACH..............OMFG................and women could show their faces in public.....................OMFG.........................The people he was Brutal to were the ones who eventually took the place.....................Who installed RELIGIOUS RULE................and now the place sucks...........The Brutal Man kept the lid on the place.

Assad Brutal.
Saddam Brutal
and so on..............

Ghedaffi, King of Saudi Arabia, Emirs of the Gulf States, etc., etc.
 
I don't agree with what the OP posted at all

nothing new there LOL

if not Assad who then????

who???

more Arab Spring garbage?????

no way



Assad stays.....We are with Putin in this... not ISIS ,,,like Silly Sally is.

Did you have your therapy session today? Meanwhile, in all of Syria, once ISIS has been gotten rid of, are you trying to tell us that there is not one person around who is capable of running a country. The Syrians are not stupid people, so there are probably several around who can do the job. However, I get you. You like to see brutal tyrants hanging around.
Some people need a boot on their neck for their own good. This region is full of Tyrants because they are the only ones capable of keeping a lid on the ones like ISIS. They don't do this by being nice.................

There are a lot of Brutal Dictators over there......now and in the past..........For the same reason. The Ottoman Empire held the region...........They were not nice people.

The Shah of Iran was considered a Brutal Dictator..........Who suppressed his people.....yet under his rule they lived more like a Western Society..........They could go to the BEACH..............OMFG................and women could show their faces in public.....................OMFG.........................The people he was Brutal to were the ones who eventually took the place.....................Who installed RELIGIOUS RULE................and now the place sucks...........The Brutal Man kept the lid on the place.

Assad Brutal.
Saddam Brutal
and so on..............


Isn't it pathetic that people in that part of the world even in these modern days need a tyrant to rule them? What is wrong with them? Anyhow, many Iranians living here would tell you that they miss the Shah and would go back if the crazies weren't in power. I guess if you kept your nose clean, you had no worries about the Shah. Whatever anyone thinks about the Shah, he did bring his people into the twentieth century.

By the way, all those people fleeing the Middle East and running to Europe and perhaps eventually to the U.S. and Canada, how are they gong to adapt not have a tyrant ruling them?
 
I don't agree with what the OP posted at all

nothing new there LOL

if not Assad who then????

who???

more Arab Spring garbage?????

no way



Assad stays.....We are with Putin in this... not ISIS ,,,like Silly Sally is.

Did you have your therapy session today? Meanwhile, in all of Syria, once ISIS has been gotten rid of, are you trying to tell us that there is not one person around who is capable of running a country. The Syrians are not stupid people, so there are probably several around who can do the job. However, I get you. You like to see brutal tyrants hanging around.
Some people need a boot on their neck for their own good. This region is full of Tyrants because they are the only ones capable of keeping a lid on the ones like ISIS. They don't do this by being nice.................

There are a lot of Brutal Dictators over there......now and in the past..........For the same reason. The Ottoman Empire held the region...........They were not nice people.

The Shah of Iran was considered a Brutal Dictator..........Who suppressed his people.....yet under his rule they lived more like a Western Society..........They could go to the BEACH..............OMFG................and women could show their faces in public.....................OMFG.........................The people he was Brutal to were the ones who eventually took the place.....................Who installed RELIGIOUS RULE................and now the place sucks...........The Brutal Man kept the lid on the place.

Assad Brutal.
Saddam Brutal
and so on..............


Isn't it pathetic that people in that part of the world even in these modern days need a tyrant to rule them? What is wrong with them? Anyhow, many Iranians living here would tell you that they miss the Shah and would go back if the crazies weren't in power. I guess if you kept your nose clean, you had no worries about the Shah. Whatever anyone thinks about the Shah, he did bring his people into the twentieth century.

By the way, all those people fleeing the Middle East and running to Europe and perhaps eventually to the U.S. and Canada, how are they gong to adapt not have a tyrant ruling them?

Friend of Assad, Frangieh, is now being considered for president in Lebanon, in hopes of breaking the stalemate. Assad is digging in his nails to make it more difficult to move him.
 
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I don't agree with what the OP posted at all

nothing new there LOL

if not Assad who then????

who???

more Arab Spring garbage?????

no way



Assad stays.....We are with Putin in this... not ISIS ,,,like Silly Sally is.

Did you have your therapy session today? Meanwhile, in all of Syria, once ISIS has been gotten rid of, are you trying to tell us that there is not one person around who is capable of running a country. The Syrians are not stupid people, so there are probably several around who can do the job. However, I get you. You like to see brutal tyrants hanging around.
Some people need a boot on their neck for their own good. This region is full of Tyrants because they are the only ones capable of keeping a lid on the ones like ISIS. They don't do this by being nice.................

There are a lot of Brutal Dictators over there......now and in the past..........For the same reason. The Ottoman Empire held the region...........They were not nice people.

The Shah of Iran was considered a Brutal Dictator..........Who suppressed his people.....yet under his rule they lived more like a Western Society..........They could go to the BEACH..............OMFG................and women could show their faces in public.....................OMFG.........................The people he was Brutal to were the ones who eventually took the place.....................Who installed RELIGIOUS RULE................and now the place sucks...........The Brutal Man kept the lid on the place.

Assad Brutal.
Saddam Brutal
and so on..............


Isn't it pathetic that people in that part of the world even in these modern days need a tyrant to rule them? What is wrong with them? Anyhow, many Iranians living here would tell you that they miss the Shah and would go back if the crazies weren't in power. I guess if you kept your nose clean, you had no worries about the Shah. Whatever anyone thinks about the Shah, he did bring his people into the twentieth century.

By the way, all those people fleeing the Middle East and running to Europe and perhaps eventually to the U.S. and Canada, how are they gong to adapt not have a tyrant ruling them?
Of course, ISIS-Sally is a big fan of the Tyrant Shah, because he was a US-puppet.
 
I don't agree with what the OP posted at all

nothing new there LOL

if not Assad who then????

who???

more Arab Spring garbage?????

no way



Assad stays.....We are with Putin in this... not ISIS ,,,like Silly Sally is.

Did you have your therapy session today? Meanwhile, in all of Syria, once ISIS has been gotten rid of, are you trying to tell us that there is not one person around who is capable of running a country. The Syrians are not stupid people, so there are probably several around who can do the job. However, I get you. You like to see brutal tyrants hanging around.
Some people need a boot on their neck for their own good. This region is full of Tyrants because they are the only ones capable of keeping a lid on the ones like ISIS. They don't do this by being nice.................

There are a lot of Brutal Dictators over there......now and in the past..........For the same reason. The Ottoman Empire held the region...........They were not nice people.

The Shah of Iran was considered a Brutal Dictator..........Who suppressed his people.....yet under his rule they lived more like a Western Society..........They could go to the BEACH..............OMFG................and women could show their faces in public.....................OMFG.........................The people he was Brutal to were the ones who eventually took the place.....................Who installed RELIGIOUS RULE................and now the place sucks...........The Brutal Man kept the lid on the place.

Assad Brutal.
Saddam Brutal
and so on..............


Isn't it pathetic that people in that part of the world even in these modern days need a tyrant to rule them? What is wrong with them? Anyhow, many Iranians living here would tell you that they miss the Shah and would go back if the crazies weren't in power. I guess if you kept your nose clean, you had no worries about the Shah. Whatever anyone thinks about the Shah, he did bring his people into the twentieth century.

By the way, all those people fleeing the Middle East and running to Europe and perhaps eventually to the U.S. and Canada, how are they gong to adapt not have a tyrant ruling them?

Friend of Assad, Frangieh, is now being considered for president in Lebanon, in hopes of breaking the stalemate. Assad is digging in his nails to make it more difficult to move him.
Hard times for your terrorists in Syria. Hard times for the terrorist cheerleaders. Good times for all the others.
 
I don't agree with what the OP posted at all

nothing new there LOL

if not Assad who then????

who???

more Arab Spring garbage?????

no way



Assad stays.....We are with Putin in this... not ISIS ,,,like Silly Sally is.

Did you have your therapy session today? Meanwhile, in all of Syria, once ISIS has been gotten rid of, are you trying to tell us that there is not one person around who is capable of running a country. The Syrians are not stupid people, so there are probably several around who can do the job. However, I get you. You like to see brutal tyrants hanging around.
Some people need a boot on their neck for their own good. This region is full of Tyrants because they are the only ones capable of keeping a lid on the ones like ISIS. They don't do this by being nice.................

There are a lot of Brutal Dictators over there......now and in the past..........For the same reason. The Ottoman Empire held the region...........They were not nice people.

The Shah of Iran was considered a Brutal Dictator..........Who suppressed his people.....yet under his rule they lived more like a Western Society..........They could go to the BEACH..............OMFG................and women could show their faces in public.....................OMFG.........................The people he was Brutal to were the ones who eventually took the place.....................Who installed RELIGIOUS RULE................and now the place sucks...........The Brutal Man kept the lid on the place.

Assad Brutal.
Saddam Brutal
and so on..............


Isn't it pathetic that people in that part of the world even in these modern days need a tyrant to rule them? What is wrong with them? Anyhow, many Iranians living here would tell you that they miss the Shah and would go back if the crazies weren't in power. I guess if you kept your nose clean, you had no worries about the Shah. Whatever anyone thinks about the Shah, he did bring his people into the twentieth century.

By the way, all those people fleeing the Middle East and running to Europe and perhaps eventually to the U.S. and Canada, how are they gong to adapt not have a tyrant ruling them?

The Iranians that left with the fall of the Shah were people that were part of the elite, supporters of the Shah, government functionaries and yes, members of the SAVAK. The leaders of the secular democrats that had elected Mossadeq, the first democratically elected leader of Iran, were imprisoned, tortured and/or imprisoned. Anyone that criticized the government was tortured, killed or imprisoned. The SAVAK was far more brutal than anything there is today in Iran. It was a police state under the Shah and of course the elites lived a good life. The rest of the population was far worse off than they are today.

"MY MEMORIES OF SAVAK INTERROGATIONS"

When I see supporters of former monarchy speaking of the past, I wonder why they do not remember those days and how they kept silent about the actions of Savak.Today they try to speak in the soft tone but who would dare to challenge them those days."

My Memories of Savak Interrogations
 
I don't agree with what the OP posted at all

nothing new there LOL

if not Assad who then????

who???

more Arab Spring garbage?????

no way



Assad stays.....We are with Putin in this... not ISIS ,,,like Silly Sally is.

Did you have your therapy session today? Meanwhile, in all of Syria, once ISIS has been gotten rid of, are you trying to tell us that there is not one person around who is capable of running a country. The Syrians are not stupid people, so there are probably several around who can do the job. However, I get you. You like to see brutal tyrants hanging around.
Some people need a boot on their neck for their own good. This region is full of Tyrants because they are the only ones capable of keeping a lid on the ones like ISIS. They don't do this by being nice.................

There are a lot of Brutal Dictators over there......now and in the past..........For the same reason. The Ottoman Empire held the region...........They were not nice people.

The Shah of Iran was considered a Brutal Dictator..........Who suppressed his people.....yet under his rule they lived more like a Western Society..........They could go to the BEACH..............OMFG................and women could show their faces in public.....................OMFG.........................The people he was Brutal to were the ones who eventually took the place.....................Who installed RELIGIOUS RULE................and now the place sucks...........The Brutal Man kept the lid on the place.

Assad Brutal.
Saddam Brutal
and so on..............


Isn't it pathetic that people in that part of the world even in these modern days need a tyrant to rule them? What is wrong with them? Anyhow, many Iranians living here would tell you that they miss the Shah and would go back if the crazies weren't in power. I guess if you kept your nose clean, you had no worries about the Shah. Whatever anyone thinks about the Shah, he did bring his people into the twentieth century.

By the way, all those people fleeing the Middle East and running to Europe and perhaps eventually to the U.S. and Canada, how are they gong to adapt not have a tyrant ruling them?

The Iranians that left with the fall of the Shah were people that were part of the elite, supporters of the Shah, government functionaries and yes, members of the SAVAK. The leaders of the secular democrats that had elected Mossadeq, the first democratically elected leader of Iran, were imprisoned, tortured and/or imprisoned. Anyone that criticized the government was tortured, killed or imprisoned. The SAVAK was far more brutal than anything there is today in Iran. It was a police state under the Shah and of course the elites lived a good life. The rest of the population was far worse off than they are today.

"MY MEMORIES OF SAVAK INTERROGATIONS"

When I see supporters of former monarchy speaking of the past, I wonder why they do not remember those days and how they kept silent about the actions of Savak.Today they try to speak in the soft tone but who would dare to challenge them those days."

My Memories of Savak Interrogations


Are you really trying to tell us, Mr. Saleem, that all those who liked the Shah were members of the elite. I have to differ with you since many who came out were not the elite but just regular citizens, many of whom were not what you would call well off. Meanwhile, it looks like you champion the crazies who are ruling in Iran now. If life in Iran is so wonderful under these crazies, could you tell us why Iranians are still skipping town and landing in the U.S.?

By the way, you and your musical chair partner Haniyah have been mighty busy, so it looks like you two are not even given coffee breaks. What a way to spend a life!!!
 
I don't agree with what the OP posted at all

nothing new there LOL

if not Assad who then????

who???

more Arab Spring garbage?????

no way



Assad stays.....We are with Putin in this... not ISIS ,,,like Silly Sally is.

Did you have your therapy session today? Meanwhile, in all of Syria, once ISIS has been gotten rid of, are you trying to tell us that there is not one person around who is capable of running a country. The Syrians are not stupid people, so there are probably several around who can do the job. However, I get you. You like to see brutal tyrants hanging around.
Some people need a boot on their neck for their own good. This region is full of Tyrants because they are the only ones capable of keeping a lid on the ones like ISIS. They don't do this by being nice.................

There are a lot of Brutal Dictators over there......now and in the past..........For the same reason. The Ottoman Empire held the region...........They were not nice people.

The Shah of Iran was considered a Brutal Dictator..........Who suppressed his people.....yet under his rule they lived more like a Western Society..........They could go to the BEACH..............OMFG................and women could show their faces in public.....................OMFG.........................The people he was Brutal to were the ones who eventually took the place.....................Who installed RELIGIOUS RULE................and now the place sucks...........The Brutal Man kept the lid on the place.

Assad Brutal.
Saddam Brutal
and so on..............


Isn't it pathetic that people in that part of the world even in these modern days need a tyrant to rule them? What is wrong with them? Anyhow, many Iranians living here would tell you that they miss the Shah and would go back if the crazies weren't in power. I guess if you kept your nose clean, you had no worries about the Shah. Whatever anyone thinks about the Shah, he did bring his people into the twentieth century.

By the way, all those people fleeing the Middle East and running to Europe and perhaps eventually to the U.S. and Canada, how are they gong to adapt not have a tyrant ruling them?
Of course, ISIS-Sally is a big fan of the Tyrant Shah, because he was a US-puppet.


Listen, Little Shit, you sitting in your little room all day long collecting benefits from your country and afraid to go out because you think the police will harass you have probably never spoke to an Iranian. If you actually had, they would tell you that they miss the Shah. Can you tell us if your boyfriend or his father brought Syria into the 20th century the way that the Shah did?.

By the way, Aris, I know you have the Little Shit on Ignore, but it appears that he didn't like it that you have knowledge about this man Frangieh in Lebanon. So what does the Little Shit do because he can't restrain himself??? He posts more of his nonsense. However, I am sure that most here appreciate all the knowledge you have about the area and all the news updates you get from your friends over there. Meanwhile, the Little Shit can continue playing with his Assad blow-up doll.
 

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