Why are Republicans allergic to Conservatism

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    Ron Paul is the most Conservative candidate running since Goldwater, yet Republicans are allergic to him and rather support RINO's. In fact, Republicans were allergic to Goldwater too.

    For all the talk about Republicans who claim that they are Conservative, they certainly don't show it when election time comes. In fact, their statist colors shine through. No wonder Republicans increase the government and debt every time they are in power, yet hypocritically bitch about government and spending when they are out of power.

    Republicans are allergic to conservatism.
     
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    Rick Santorum
    Mitt Romney
    Are Rino's when it comes to spending. Good on social, but bad on spending. Fact.

    Most of these people aren't serious.
     
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    Republicans bitch about big government, yet nominate big government candidates, then preach to the American people about the values of conservatism.

    It is dizzying. Republicans don't know Conservatism if it bit them on the ass.
     
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    Right,

    Watching Santorum in the debates say that he is for the federal government and dissing Paul shows what kind of a conservative he is. He voted 5 times for debt ceiling raises and won't cut a ding thing.

    The republicans in general are better then the rats on energy, social issues and a few other issues, but are big spenders. Look at the Bush's.
     
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    I'm sorry, but while some of Pauls ideas are good, I cannot trust him with the security of the United States.
     
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    And Republicans love these big government assholes. Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, etc.

    It is like they are addicted to them.
     
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    I know, you believe in neocon FP.

    We already had this discussion.
     
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    1) Ron Paul is not conservative. He's libertarian. Nothing wrong with that but there is a difference. Equating the two does a disservice for political discourse.
    2) Ron Paul's foreign policy is not conservative at all. Which is probably why he gets along with Soros policy pushers on foreign policy. As much as it might be nice to get out of the middle east, that will be completely impossibly without preparing the American economy to do so by getting us the hell off middle eastern oil.
    3) Ron Paul attracts some of the most arrogant, irrational people around. And while some of them are decent people, the nutjobs turn normal people off to him.
    4) Ron Paul doesn't recognize that it's taken 100 years of the progressive cancer to get to this point and we can't roll it back overnight. He provides no stepping stones for how to rolls us back.

    There are countless others. The lie that Ron Paul is the most conservative/only conservative being pushed by the Paulites reinforces point 3. And quite frankly this cult of personality surounding him is downright dangerous.
     
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    I could respect Goldwater, his beliefs at least had a logical consistency, not this crazy quilt mixture of libertarianism, police state fascism, bad religion and free market dogma they have pulled together to get people to vote for good old fashioned crooks.
     
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    1. According to the Conservative icon, Reagan, "I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism". However, Republicans hate this fact.

    2. I know, Republicans love nation building and big government. It carries on in the spirit of big government loving Republicans.

    3. yawn.....I do believe it was you that made the last supercilious statement combined with passive aggressive behavior, but we are uncivil and can't hold a conversation....ok.

    4. Ron Paul is very moderate and never called for a rollback overnight. Plus, you need to learn how the government operates. Even if Paul called for radicalism, he needs approval from Congress and certainly big government Conservatives will not give him approval.

    Plus, in all your bitching, you never accepted the fact that you love big government Republicans. At least be honest.
     
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