Why are conservatives so convinced that liberals detest the wealthy?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Billy000, Dec 27, 2011.

  1. Billy000
    Offline

    Billy000 Democratic Socialist

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    11,203
    Thanks Received:
    1,251
    Trophy Points:
    275
    Location:
    Colorado
    Ratings:
    +4,334
    I certainly don't. I'd just like them to pay their fair share in taxes.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 2
  2. peach174
    Offline

    peach174 Gold Member Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2010
    Messages:
    20,527
    Thanks Received:
    4,049
    Trophy Points:
    290
    Location:
    S.E. AZ
    Ratings:
    +7,371
    What is their fair share?

    The top 1 percent of earners account for 20.3 percent of total personal income in the United States and pay 21.5 percent of all federal and state taxes. The middle 20 percent of households earn 11.6 percent of US income and pay 10.3 percent of taxes. The lowest 20 percent account for just 3.5 percent of income, and pay 2 percent of all taxes.

    On average, the wealthiest people in America pay a lot more taxes than the middle class or the poor, according to private and government data. They pay at a higher rate, and as a group, they contribute a much larger share of the overall taxes collected by the federal government.

    There may be individual millionaires who pay taxes at rates lower than middle-income workers. In 2009 1,470 households filed tax returns with incomes above $1 million yet paid no federal income tax, according to the Internal Revenue Service. That, however, was less than 1 percent of the nearly 237,000 returns with incomes above $1 million.

    This year, households making more than $1 million will pay an average of 29.1% of their income in federal taxes, including income taxes and payroll taxes, according to the Tax Policy Center, a Washington think tank.

    Households making between $50,000 and $75,000 will pay 15% of their income in federal taxes. Lower-income households will pay less. For example, households making between $40,000 and $50,000 will pay an average of 12.5% of their income in federal taxes. Households making between $20,000 and $30,000 will pay 5.7%.
     
  3. blastoff
    Online

    blastoff Undocumented Reg. User

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2009
    Messages:
    13,528
    Thanks Received:
    1,708
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Location:
    In a galaxy far far away...
    Ratings:
    +4,610
    Why are conservatives so convinced that liberals detest the wealthy?

    Gee, I dunno. Maybe because the fucking idiot in the White House and other pukes in the Dimocrat party harp about it constantly.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2011
  4. CrusaderFrank
    Offline

    CrusaderFrank Diamond Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Messages:
    81,236
    Thanks Received:
    14,914
    Trophy Points:
    2,210
    Ratings:
    +37,019
    Certain key phrases reveal the stupidity of people. Fossil fuels, manmade global warming, and fair share are three such phrases
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 2
  5. Mr. H.
    Offline

    Mr. H. Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2009
    Messages:
    44,117
    Thanks Received:
    9,265
    Trophy Points:
    2,030
    Location:
    A warm place with no memory.
    Ratings:
    +15,395
    Even wealthy liberals detest wealthy conservatives.
    I've been personally confronted many times, but have never broached the subject of my liberal friends' wealth.
    It's a sad and pathetic condition of the liberal mindset. No rhyme or reason, more like an inherent disease.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  6. NYcarbineer
    Online

    NYcarbineer Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2009
    Messages:
    96,056
    Thanks Received:
    11,266
    Trophy Points:
    2,060
    Location:
    Finger Lakes, NY
    Ratings:
    +30,243
    Did you mean 'class warfare'?
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  7. Billy000
    Offline

    Billy000 Democratic Socialist

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    11,203
    Thanks Received:
    1,251
    Trophy Points:
    275
    Location:
    Colorado
    Ratings:
    +4,334
    Of course the top 1% pay more in taxes, but given their income, they aren't paying enough. Their tax rates are at an all time low.

    Check out the graphs on pages 9-11 in my signature.
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2011
  8. NYcarbineer
    Online

    NYcarbineer Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2009
    Messages:
    96,056
    Thanks Received:
    11,266
    Trophy Points:
    2,060
    Location:
    Finger Lakes, NY
    Ratings:
    +30,243
    Maybe a society where the average working/middle class family didn't have to send both spouses (or the equivalent) out every day to work a full time job to make ends meet would be fairer.

    Forty or fifty years ago the 2 earner family was relatively rare. Now it's commonplace and most young people seem to take it for granted that if they get married and have a family, both spouses are going to have to work.

    That is as emblematic as anything of the fall of the middle class in this country, and to the extent that earnings lost by the middle class have moved to the wealthier class and made them even wealthier,

    that is the unfairness.
     
  9. WillowTree
    Offline

    WillowTree Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    68,148
    Thanks Received:
    10,166
    Trophy Points:
    2,030
    Ratings:
    +14,720
    they do asswipe. but, I could bring it to your attention that 50% of Americans pay ZERO,, that's the group that really doesn't pay a "fair share" or any share for that matter..
     
  10. Billy000
    Offline

    Billy000 Democratic Socialist

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2011
    Messages:
    11,203
    Thanks Received:
    1,251
    Trophy Points:
    275
    Location:
    Colorado
    Ratings:
    +4,334
    Um, no, 47% do not pay FEDERAL taxes. Get your facts straight or don't bother trying.
     

Share This Page