Why Americans Hate Democrats- A Dialogue- Let's Talk About Faith

Bonnie said:
It's very nice to bandy about terms like open minded, non judgemental, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, blah, blah. The problem is no one lives in a vacuum, a lot of our actions whether we care to acknowledge it or not affects others. At some point in a civilized society must put the brakes to stop and see exactly how laws are corrupting what is good for the whole. We cannot have an anything goes society without there being consequences. It has nothing to do with moral judgements. If the courts were to grant same sex marriage but not adoption, there would be much legal wrangling as this would be seen as discrimination. Once you open that door you need to be prepared for the flood. The reason I think the moral majority in this country has been so villafied as being too judgemental is they are the only ones willing to stand up and say hold it one second, just what are we doing here? But if you look at their arguments much of what they say is just common sense.


That is a good point, you give em' a inch they'll take a foot.
 
freeandfun1 said:
it might suck, but that is how our system was intended - to let the STATES decide. I think most Americans have forgotten that as the federal government has slowly been creeping into our lives and laws over the last 50 years. if a state decides to ban civil unions, then so be it. if a person doesn't like it, they can move to a state that will.



Yes, yes, YES! That is precisely the point that so many people are missing! The entire intent of our founding fathers was the decentralization of government as a safeguard against tyranny. The Federal Government has gotten into the habit of intruding in matters that are, frankly and by constitutional law, none of it's business.
 
musicman said:
Yes, yes, YES! That is precisely the point that so many people are missing! The entire intent of our founding fathers was the decentralization of government as a safeguard against tyranny. The Federal Government has gotten into the habit of intruding in matters that are, frankly and by constitutional law, none of it's business.

Absolutely. If the people of Massachusetts want to have gay marriages/civil unions, then they need to vote for gay marriage/civil unions on the ballot in Massachusetts, NOT impose it via judicial fiat.

The problem the liberals have with our Constitutional method is that their ideas are not very popular and would not likely get voted in, even in Massachusetts. So, of course, they want to circumvent the will of the people by using a few activist judges.

Since most of America is on to their sneaky methods, 11 anti-gay marriage state amendments were passed in 11 states. Now, the liberals are having a BIG hissy fit and blaming it on those nasty Christians. They won't admit that they were beat fair and square per our Constitutional process.
 
ScreamingEagle said:
Absolutely. If the people of Massachusetts want to have gay marriages/civil unions, then they need to vote for gay marriage/civil unions on the ballot in Massachusetts, NOT impose it via judicial fiat.

The problem the liberals have with our Constitutional method is that their ideas are not very popular and would not likely get voted in, even in Massachusetts. So, of course, they want to circumvent the will of the people by using a few activist judges.

Since most of America is on to their sneaky methods, 11 anti-gay marriage state amendments were passed in 11 states. Now, the liberals are having a BIG hissy fit and blaming it on those nasty Christians. They won't admit that they were beat fair and square per our Constitutional process.

This is great, the more angry and shrill liberals become the more hypocritical they show themselves to be :blah2:
 

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