CDZ Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Spoken like one that doesn’t have a real clue. It isn’t the guns of those legally possessing guns, it’s those with illegal guns. It is a society not on gun violence, but on violence. It is the cheapening of life, when you can abort a kid because, when you raise a generation of entitlement, a generation where it is all about me, me, me. Where we don’t need a mom and a dad, where God and the family unit are looked down upon, this is what you get.

The two step is still a popular dance, and as a means of avoiding responsib. Social Secuirty checks aren't being used to kill dozens of people at once.

Precisely, and you blaming an inanimate object is foolish.

The gun as inanimate object is a popular fall back position. Automobiles are also inanimate objects, but their use and design are regulated for public safety.

But yet automobiles and the careless use still accounts for more deaths than guns....no?

38,000 gun deaths. Could that number be reduced? Only if gun advocates could imagine it could. But to rely on gun advocates for solutions to gun violence is a fool's game.

Yeah, if you libs stop committing suicide with them and if the druggies and gangbangers would stop shooting each other, that would be great!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Which of all these should be banned?

All of them should be effectively banned. Semis, ugh. Noisy to get into action, unreliable, only good for shooting people or jamming. Handguns, ugh. Only good for shooting people.

Spoken like a truly ignorant gun-grabber!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You'd that people would smell a rat with legislation forbidding funding of the study of gun violence, but it's just accepted as normal. Amazing.

Why do we need to study something? You libs provide us real-world examples daily!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Have more people carrying, then shooters will get stopped quicker.

Your easy access to firearms is more important than any school kids' lives, no argument.

Easy access? You are talking about banning. That means no access!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

"In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn." - From the article

Damn right! Bless America.

Why would you NOT give a damn about mass shootings?

I don't give a damn about anyone who uses a tragedy - be it terrorism or psychotic with a gun - to advance a political agenda.

As soon as the argument goes towards depriving anyone of their rights who wasn't involved in the shooting it's time to tune out.

It's almost as if the situations are contrived in order to try and strip Americans of rights.

Btw, I just learned the latest TX shooter was on psych meds.

Texas church shooter Devin Patrick Kelley served in Air Force, was court-martialed for assaulting wife, child

And he couldn't legally by a gun in Texas, so he went to another State. See a problem with that?

He bought his guns in Texas. There was nothing to stop him from legally purchasing the guns because the Air Force screwed up the paperwork!

 

[koshergrl]

Very interesting article Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings - CNN

One month ago, the worst mass shooting in US history took place at a country music concert in Las Vegas. Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 500 people injured. Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."
I hate to say it, but he is right. Sunday, just 34 days after Vegas, 26 people were gunned down and about 20 others were wounded during a church service in Texas. And here's what is really sick -- we won't be surprised when there's another mass shooting next month. Maybe it'll be your church, your mall, your concert or your movie theater. That's the price of freedom.
In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn.
Tweeting "prayers for the victims" does not equal giving a damn. Feeling bad for a day or two does not equal giving a damn. Changing your Facebook profile photo to support the victims does not equal giving a damn.

This hit home for me:

Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.

I was 800 yards +/- from the shooter at Mandalay Bay, well within range. I was armed with a Glock. Nothing I could have done with that, I was out armed and nowhere near effective range.

IMO: ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles should be banned.

One of my very close friends killed her abusive husband with a bullet between the eyes.

Violence has touched our lives directly.

I'm glad she had the rifle. He said he was going to kill her horses, then her. He was the only one to die.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Very interesting article Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings - CNN

One month ago, the worst mass shooting in US history took place at a country music concert in Las Vegas. Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 500 people injured. Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."
I hate to say it, but he is right. Sunday, just 34 days after Vegas, 26 people were gunned down and about 20 others were wounded during a church service in Texas. And here's what is really sick -- we won't be surprised when there's another mass shooting next month. Maybe it'll be your church, your mall, your concert or your movie theater. That's the price of freedom.
In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn.
Tweeting "prayers for the victims" does not equal giving a damn. Feeling bad for a day or two does not equal giving a damn. Changing your Facebook profile photo to support the victims does not equal giving a damn.

This hit home for me:

Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.

I was 800 yards +/- from the shooter at Mandalay Bay, well within range. I was armed with a Glock. Nothing I could have done with that, I was out armed and nowhere near effective range.

IMO: ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles should be banned.

yea, the left isn't coming for our guns..


you freedom hating filth won't be happy until we are down to plastic sporks

the idiotic idea that bans would make us safer is just ignorant on a level that can't be described.

It would make mass shootings harder to commit and less prevalent.

no it wouldn't, that's a dream with no reference in reality

Except for Canada, Australia, and the UK.

Could Paddock have amassed his weaponry? NO.

Could the Texas shooter who was denied a gun sale in Texas drive to a different State and buy? NO.

Where are you digging up this bullshit?

He was denied a concealed carry permit by Texas. He bought three weapons legally.

 

[koshergrl]

A good man with a gun did what he had to do in Texas

 

[Esmeralda]

The two step is still a popular dance, and as a means of avoiding responsib. Social Secuirty checks aren't being used to kill dozens of people at once.

Precisely, and you blaming an inanimate object is foolish.

The gun as inanimate object is a popular fall back position. Automobiles are also inanimate objects, but their use and design are regulated for public safety.

As guns should be.

It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...

Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?

It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you have, that you could defend yourselves during some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world.

As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.

 

[Esmeralda]

The two step is still a popular dance, and as a means of avoiding responsib. Social Secuirty checks aren't being used to kill dozens of people at once.

Precisely, and you blaming an inanimate object is foolish.

The gun as inanimate object is a popular fall back position. Automobiles are also inanimate objects, but their use and design are regulated for public safety.

As guns should be.

It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...

Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?

You people make so many false analogies in your foolish arguments. There is no logical correlation between falling down and owning guns.

 

[Dale Smith]

Precisely, and you blaming an inanimate object is foolish.

The gun as inanimate object is a popular fall back position. Automobiles are also inanimate objects, but their use and design are regulated for public safety.

As guns should be.

It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...

Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?

It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you idiots have that you could defend yourselves with some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world. As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.

Your understanding of how things really are is simply pathetic. Your statement is that people should just acquiesce to the whims of "gubemint" because resistance is futile....what a chickenshit you are. Allow me to remind you that over 200,000,000 people (mostly unarmed) have been murdered by their "gubermint" and mostly that of commies and socialists such as yourself. Fuck you.....you want to disarm the public? Please put your ass on the front line for the "door to door" confiscation.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Precisely, and you blaming an inanimate object is foolish.

The gun as inanimate object is a popular fall back position. Automobiles are also inanimate objects, but their use and design are regulated for public safety.

As guns should be.

It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...

Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?

It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you have, that you could defend yourselves during some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world.

As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.

Well get cracking and get it done cause that is the ONLY way you ban semiautomatic weapons.

 

[Nosmo King]

The gun as inanimate object is a popular fall back position. Automobiles are also inanimate objects, but their use and design are regulated for public safety.

As guns should be.

It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...

Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?

It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you idiots have that you could defend yourselves with some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world. As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.

Your understanding of how things really are is simply pathetic. Your statement is that people should just acquiesce to the whims of "gubemint" because resistance is futile....what a chickenshit you are. Allow me to remind you that over 200,000,000 people (mostly unarmed) have been murdered by their "gubermint" and mostly that of commies and socialists such as yourself. Fuck you.....you want to disarm the public? Please put your ass on the front line for the "door to door" confiscation.

My take on this armed opposition to the government is...

You rely on the second amendment as assurance you can bear arms, including arms designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible. Essentially you're relying on the government to protect that right. And yet it is this same government that you are arraying an arsenal to fight.

Simultaneously you support local police, even when their tactics are brutal and repressive, but chide the police as ineffective thus rationalizing your stockpile of arms absolutely necessary to ward off the hordes of criminals haunting your thoughts. That's why you need semi-automatic firing systems and high capacity magazines.

Meanwhile the public safety suffers because our society is awash in these powerful battlefield weapons. So you cannot have it your way all the time. Either the government is serving you as the defender of your rights or the government is intrusive and wants to subjugate you to its will. Either the police are infallible in their treatment of suspects regardless of the suspect's complexion or economic background, or the police are a bunch of Narney Fire layabouts too incompetent to answer your call.

Either powerful assault weapons,are too cool to lose, or the public safety he damned.

Having your cake and killing dozens of innocents in the bargain.

 

[Dale Smith]

As guns should be.

It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...

Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?

It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you idiots have that you could defend yourselves with some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world. As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.

Your understanding of how things really are is simply pathetic. Your statement is that people should just acquiesce to the whims of "gubemint" because resistance is futile....what a chickenshit you are. Allow me to remind you that over 200,000,000 people (mostly unarmed) have been murdered by their "gubermint" and mostly that of commies and socialists such as yourself. Fuck you.....you want to disarm the public? Please put your ass on the front line for the "door to door" confiscation.

My take on this armed opposition to the government is...

You rely on the second amendment as assurance you can bear arms, including arms designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible. Essentially you're relying on the government to protect that right. And yet it is this same government that you are arraying an arsenal to fight.

Simultaneously you support local police, even when their tactics are brutal and repressive, but chide the police as ineffective thus rationalizing your stockpile of arms absolutely necessary to ward off the hordes of criminals haunting your thoughts. That's why you need semi-automatic firing systems and high capacity magazines.

Meanwhile the public safety suffers because our society is awash in these powerful battlefield weapons. So you cannot have it your way all the time. Either the government is serving you as the defender of your rights or the government is intrusive and wants to subjugate you to its will. Either the police are infallible in their treatment of suspects regardless of the suspect's complexion or economic background, or the police are a bunch of Narney Fire layabouts too incompetent to answer your call.

Either powerful assault weapons,are too cool to lose, or the public safety he damned.

Having your cake and killing dozens of innocents in the bargain.

Nope, I don't need the corporate entity that you lovingly refer to as "gubermint" to protect my right to protect my loved ones. They do not have the power to disarm us unless they are willing to put themselves in harms way themselves.....capiche'??

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

‘Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."’

Further proof of the fact that Bill O'Reilly is an idiot, along with anyone who agrees with him.

 

[Dale Smith]

‘Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."’

Further proof of the fact that Bill O'Reilly is an idiot, along with anyone who agrees with him.

Ask the victims of communism if they wish they could have had a way to defends themselves........go fuck yourself, you commie pile of utter shit. You don't give one iota about human life....you just don't want any type of armed resistance to the commie agenda. You are totally transparent.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The gun as inanimate object is a popular fall back position. Automobiles are also inanimate objects, but their use and design are regulated for public safety.

As guns should be.

It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...

Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?

It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you idiots have that you could defend yourselves with some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world. As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.

Your understanding of how things really are is simply pathetic. Your statement is that people should just acquiesce to the whims of "gubemint" because resistance is futile....what a chickenshit you are. Allow me to remind you that over 200,000,000 people (mostly unarmed) have been murdered by their "gubermint" and mostly that of commies and socialists such as yourself. Fuck you.....you want to disarm the public? Please put your ass on the front line for the "door to door" confiscation.

More ignorance, stupidity, and lies from the right.

No one wants to ‘disarm’ anyone, no one seeks to ‘take’ anyone’s guns.

And the Second Amendment doesn’t ‘trump’ the First – citizens have the right to possess firearms pursuant to lawful self-defense, not to ‘take up arms’ against a government some subjectively and incorrectly perceive to be ‘tyrannical,’ a government lawfully elected and put into place through the political process, that can only be removed by the political process.

 

[Esmeralda]

The gun as inanimate object is a popular fall back position. Automobiles are also inanimate objects, but their use and design are regulated for public safety.

As guns should be.

It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...

Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?

It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you idiots have that you could defend yourselves with some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world. As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.

Your understanding of how things really are is simply pathetic. Your statement is that people should just acquiesce to the whims of "gubemint" because resistance is futile....what a chickenshit you are. Allow me to remind you that over 200,000,000 people (mostly unarmed) have been murdered by their "gubermint" and mostly that of commies and socialists such as yourself. Fuck you.....you want to disarm the public? Please put your ass on the front line for the "door to door" confiscation.

What 200 million people have been killed by the government? By our government or by a communist dictatorship? It is ludicrous and lacking all logic and reasoning to suggest that our government has any similarities to a dictatorship. Again, you lack reasoning: on the one hand you believe so strongly in the constitution and the 2nd Amendment, and yet on the other hand you suggest the government is a threat to you. All self serving nonsense.

 

[Skull Pilot]

"In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn." - From the article

Damn right! Bless America.

Why would you NOT give a damn about mass shootings?

I don't give a damn about anyone who uses a tragedy - be it terrorism or psychotic with a gun - to advance a political agenda.

As soon as the argument goes towards depriving anyone of their rights who wasn't involved in the shooting it's time to tune out.

You don't give a damn. When you or your family are involved in a mass shooting, are you going to give a damn?

Nobody is depriving anyone of their rights.

The fact is that I have a much greater chance of being the victim of a violent crime than getting killed in a mass shooting.

1% of all murders take place in mass shooting events.

So I would rather be dispassionate and logical regarding mass shootings than an emotional knee jerk reactionary

 

[koshergrl]

Precisely, and you blaming an inanimate object is foolish.

The gun as inanimate object is a popular fall back position. Automobiles are also inanimate objects, but their use and design are regulated for public safety.

As guns should be.

It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...

Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?

It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you have, that you could defend yourselves during some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world.

As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.

The second amendment doesn't cause mass shootings.

The fact that leftists insist on normalizing crazing, violent predators to the point where they won't let us lock them up....does.

As does the fact that leftists insist on importing crazy, violent predators from countries known for sending us bombs and murderers.