CDZ Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings

Billy_Kinetta · Nov 9, 2017

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I don't give a damn about anyone who uses a tragedy - be it terrorism or psychotic with a gun - to advance a political agenda.

As soon as the argument goes towards depriving anyone of their rights who wasn't involved in the shooting it's time to tune out.
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You don't give a damn. When you or your family are involved in a mass shooting, are you going to give a damn?

Nobody is depriving anyone of their rights.
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Nor will anyone. That ship has sunk.
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You can't show that anyone is depriving you of your rights.
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Of course not. We've won the war. Merely a few details remain to be swept away.
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Won what war?
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See what I mean?

Billy_Kinetta · Nov 9, 2017

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Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?
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It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you have, that you could defend yourselves during some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world.

As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.
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The second amendment doesn't cause mass shootings.

The fact that leftists insist on normalizing crazing, violent predators to the point where they won't let us lock them up....does.

As does the fact that leftists insist on importing crazy, violent predators from countries known for sending us bombs and murderers.
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A redefined second amendment allows people to become mass shooters.
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There has been no redefinition. The original meaning has been reinforced, and has nothing to do with criminal behavior.
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The orginal meaning with the information that was available at the time the second amendment was ratified was reinforced?
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The original intent and meaning, yes.

Damaged Eagle · Nov 9, 2017

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The fact of the matter is that the box has already been opened and no matter how much you try to put a lid back on it the plague on humanity will spread as it does with all technology.

In other words if someone wants it they'll find a way to obtain one.

*****SMILE*****

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Australia did it, why can't we?
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There's been shootings in Australia since Port Arthur...

List of massacres in Australia - Wikipedia

...So your premise of Australia being a golden haven of tranquility is bull crap. Just as there are attacks against the Australian population in other ways. Are you going to ban vehicles and other items that are utilized for such purposes too?

The progressives in Chicago blame the rest of the country for guns being brought into Chicago. What's to keep the those who want guns from bringing them into the United States from other nations? Nothing! I'll keep my firearms for if and when I may need them to protect my family from such threats both foreign and domestic.

*****SMILE*****

Leo123 · Nov 10, 2017

I own guns, I know how to use them. I will protect anyone being threatened by a gun with my gun. Do you want me on your side when a gunman is threatening you? OR do you prefer an unarmed negotiator? Try to be honest now......I will try to negotiate but, I have the same power as the gunman.....Because I am ARMED!!!!

Skull Pilot · Nov 10, 2017

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"In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn." - From the article

Damn right! Bless America.
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Why would you NOT give a damn about mass shootings?
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I don't give a damn about anyone who uses a tragedy - be it terrorism or psychotic with a gun - to advance a political agenda.

As soon as the argument goes towards depriving anyone of their rights who wasn't involved in the shooting it's time to tune out.
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You don't give a damn. When you or your family are involved in a mass shooting, are you going to give a damn?

Nobody is depriving anyone of their rights.
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The fact is that I have a much greater chance of being the victim of a violent crime than getting killed in a mass shooting.

1% of all murders take place in mass shooting events.

So I would rather be dispassionate and logical regarding mass shootings than an emotional knee jerk reactionary
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Here is some "dispassionate and logical" information for you.

Mass shootings in America are a serious problem -- and these charts show just why - CNN
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Mass shooting account for 1% of all murders.

No charts will change that fact

Papageorgio · Nov 10, 2017

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Very interesting article Why Americans don't give a damn about mass shootings - CNN

One month ago, the worst mass shooting in US history took place at a country music concert in Las Vegas. Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 500 people injured. Bill O'Reilly boiled the massacre down to six words: "This is the price of freedom."
I hate to say it, but he is right. Sunday, just 34 days after Vegas, 26 people were gunned down and about 20 others were wounded during a church service in Texas. And here's what is really sick -- we won't be surprised when there's another mass shooting next month. Maybe it'll be your church, your mall, your concert or your movie theater. That's the price of freedom.
In America, we are free to stockpile weapons. We are free to order ammo online. We are free to outfit our guns with bump stocks, like the Vegas shooter did. This is the price we pay for freedom, alright. The freedom to not give a damn.
Tweeting "prayers for the victims" does not equal giving a damn. Feeling bad for a day or two does not equal giving a damn. Changing your Facebook profile photo to support the victims does not equal giving a damn.
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This hit home for me:

Why the apathy?
Until gun violence impacts your family directly, you won't care enough to do something about it. There's a ton of research to explain this apathy.
After World War II, the famous Cambridge psychologist J.T. MacCurdy studied an interesting phenomenon about the bombings in London in 1940 and 1941.
He found that people affected by the bombings fell into three categories: those who died, those who were a "near miss" (who closely witnessed the horror of the bombings but lived), and those who had a "remote miss" (people who may have heard the sirens, but were removed from the direct scene of the bombing).
Here's what's interesting. MacCurdy found the people who witnessed a "near miss" were deeply affected by the bombing -- while the "remote miss" group felt invincible and even excited.
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I was 800 yards +/- from the shooter at Mandalay Bay, well within range. I was armed with a Glock. Nothing I could have done with that, I was out armed and nowhere near effective range.

IMO: ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles should be banned.
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Can not outlaw semi automatic weapons the Courts already ruled that in order to be protected by the 2nd Amendment a weapon must be of use to the military.
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There is no apathy....this guy wasn't stopped, not because of the NRA or the AR-15 rifle.....he wasn't stopped because a clerk in the Air Force didn't press "send."
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He did his deed to such an extent because semi-automatic rifles are available to the public.
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He did his deed because the system failed. He should never been allowed to own any weapons. He was a mental case and the Air Force failed to report it.

Stay on topic.

oldsoul · Nov 10, 2017

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As guns should be.
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It's funny but gun lovers often point to the hazards of the automobile. But to operate one, you must be licensed, pay an annual fee for plates, be insured and be at least sixteen years old.

If we could treat guns as carefully as we treat that damn hazardous car...
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Small problem with your "correlation" driving a car is not a constitutionally protected right. But, how about we use the falls statistic instead? 27,000 (approximately) every year. Gun murders? about 8,500. So, maybe we should spend more time teaching people how to not fall?
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It's really disgusting the way you people hide behind the 2nd Amendment. The founding fathers never imagined mass shooting, never imagined the fire power private citizens are allowed to have nowadays.

As well, it is completely ridiculous to think, no matter what firepower you idiots have that you could defend yourselves with some kind of insurection against the US government. Ridiculous. We have the biggest, most powerful military in the world. As well, there is no way our government in modern times is a threat to you or your security. It isn't like the English king is going to try to control you. You people are just holding the people of this country hostage with your 2nd Amendment BS. The constitution is meant to be amended, and this particular amendment will be amended.
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Your understanding of how things really are is simply pathetic. Your statement is that people should just acquiesce to the whims of "gubemint" because resistance is futile....what a chickenshit you are. Allow me to remind you that over 200,000,000 people (mostly unarmed) have been murdered by their "gubermint" and mostly that of commies and socialists such as yourself. Fuck you.....you want to disarm the public? Please put your ass on the front line for the "door to door" confiscation.
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More ignorance, stupidity, and lies from the right.

No one wants to ‘disarm’ anyone, no one seeks to ‘take’ anyone’s guns.

And the Second Amendment doesn’t ‘trump’ the First – citizens have the right to possess firearms pursuant to lawful self-defense, not to ‘take up arms’ against a government some subjectively and incorrectly perceive to be ‘tyrannical,’ a government lawfully elected and put into place through the political process, that can only be removed by the political process.
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Said the Torreys of Colonial America...

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