Why a U.N. Resolution on Israel Leaves Obama Facing a Dilemma

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    It was always going to be a struggle for the U.S. to dissuade its Arab allies from going ahead with a U.N. Security Council resolution condemning Israeli settlements. But last week's people-power rebellion in Tunisia has only made Washington's effort to lobby against the plan more difficult. Tunisia will have given the autocratic leaders of countries such as Egypt and Jordan more reason to fear their own people. For those regimes, symbolically challenging unconditional U.S. support for Israel is a low-cost gesture that will play well on the restive street.

    Going ahead with the resolution, discussed Wednesday at the Security Council, demanding an immediate halt to all Israeli settlement construction in the West Bank and East Jerusalem is, of course, a vote of no-confidence in U.S. peacemaking efforts. And it creates an immediate headache for the Obama Administration, over whether to invoke the U.S. veto - as Washington has traditionally done on Council resolutions critical of Israel. The twist this time: the substance of the current resolution largely echoes the Administration's own stated positions.

    "If the proposed resolution is consistent with existing and established U.S. policies," the former officials write, "then deploying a veto would severely undermine U.S. credibility and interests, placing us firmly outside of the international consensus, and further diminishing our ability to mediate this conflict."

    Why a U.N. Resolution on Israel Leaves Obama Facing a Dilemma - Yahoo! News
     
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    Obama will make his decision based on whether he thinks he needs the Jewish vote or not. If he thinks he needs it he will veto it if he thinks he doesn't he will let it pass. Not really sure why the US Jews like Obama, he does NOT like Israel.
     
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    "The concept of 'transferring' European Jews to Palestine and 'transferring' the Palestinian people out is central to Zionism.

    "Ben-Gurion, the 1st Israeli Prime Minister, eloquently articulated this essential Zionist pillar, he stated in 1944:

    "'Zionism is a TRANSFER of the Jews. Regarding the TRANSFER of the [Palestinian] Arabs this is much easier than any other TRANSFER.

    "'There are Arab states in the vicinity . . . . and it is clear that if the [Palestinian] Arabs are removed [to these states] this will improve their condition and not the contrary." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 159)

    "Note the usage of the word 'transfer' to signify the uprooting of the indigenous population to make room for Jewish refugees.

    "Now a days this is a war crime called Ethnic Cleansing."

    Quiz Yourself
     
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    RAMALLAH, West Bank – The Palestinian request to have the U.N. Security Council condemn Israeli settlements looks at first like another declarative gambit that changes little on the ground.

    But much more is at stake.

    Palestinians hope their Security Council initiative will give them an idea of how much support they have for future moves. These include seeking international recognition of a Palestinian state as early as this fall.

    The Palestinian assumption is that talks with Israel will not produce a peace accord. The talks stalled just weeks after restarting last September, in a dispute over Israeli construction in West Bank settlements and east Jerusalem.

    On Wednesday, Lebanon submitted a proposed anti-settlement resolution to the 15-member Security Council on behalf of the Palestinians, with another 122 countries as co-sponsors. The United States, one of five permanent members of the council with veto powers, has not said how it would vote, but signaled its displeasure with the move.

    Palestinian officials said Thursday they did not see how the U.S. could possibly block the resolution, arguing that it largely reflects U.S. positions. The draft resolution says that Israeli settlements on war-won land are illegal and pose a major obstacle to peace. It demands that Israel halt construction immediately and urged Israelis and Palestinians to continue negotiations on a final peace deal.

    "It would look ridiculous to veto a resolution worded in American diction," said Hanan Ashrawi, a senior member of the Palestinian leadership.

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    Looking ridiculous has never been a problem for the US and Israel before.

    The only thing that matters to US and Israeli elites is maintaining the current level of arms sales to the Middle East.

    Anything else "lacks balance" and "destabilizes" the situation.

    The US solution to Israel/Palestine is exactly the same as the answer to our current economic malaise:

    FLUSH as many elected Republicans AND Democrats from DC as possible in November of 2012.

    Including the Executive.
     
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    Sounds good to me.

    Vote for the third party of your choice.
     
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    I can answer why 90% will still vote for him. Because US Jews mostly vote for who proposes the most liberal social plans for America. They are not concerned as much as people think about who supports Israel the most.
     
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    Jews spending the day in Gaza.

     
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