Why a Santorum VP pick is BAD for Santorum

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Santorum wont be the choice. But Romney isnt going down in November. In fact, Obama is doing everything he possibly can to ensure that Romney is President come January.

 

[auditor0007]

Romney is going to go down to defeat this fall and I doubt that Santorum can do any more good for the GOP ticket than Palin did for McCain.

Santorum needs to realize that he needs to spend the next four years building a grass roots network of social conservatives and not going for higher office for now.

Once this network is set up and growing, he can start to make a move for the GOP nomination in 2016 by setting up a GOP Conservative caucus that will act as a Super PAC to pick the best conservative running early (after S Carolina) and throw all their support to them like the GOP neocons do every election since 88.

Santorum needs to study Ron Pauls network for an excellent example of how party machinery is put together and mimic it and improve on it with a leader who is actually a valid choice to more than hard core libertarians.

Conservatives keep losing because the neocons chat up so many of them to run and split the conservative base. A Conservative caucus that pick a leading conservative could neutralize the neocon lock on the party.

If the GOP neocons prevent such a caucus from forming within the party, then Santorum should organize an exodus fromt he GOP and the forming of a new social conservative friendly party that will in effect throw elections to the Dems until they can displace the GOP, much like the Whigs did and the Reform Party of Canada who came back and took over the old Cosnrvative Party which had not been actually conservative for generations.
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SANTORUM DONT TIE YOURSELF TO A LOSER LIKE ROMNEY!

Santorum will never be the GOP nominee, in any year. The same as Huckabee will never be. Social conservatives can direct and influence the conversation, because they are a big enough block that they cannot be ignored. The problem is they will never be a big enough block to actually get one of theirs nominated. They just happen to be a bit too nutty for most reasonable people.

 

[JimBowie1958]

McCain would have lost with or without Sara Palin. JFK would have won the south with or without Johnson being they had been voting solid Democratic for 100 years.

No.

A yankee Catholic had little chance of taking the South back in 1960 without a trusted Southerner also on the ticket.

Since we don't have a window into an alternate universe it's all just speculation.

No, it is no speculation. Kennedy despised Johnson as an old hick from Texas, and Johnson despised Kennedy in return.

The one and ONLY reason that those two were on the same ticket was that their internal polling showed it was the only way they could win.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Santorum will never be the GOP nominee, in any year. The same as Huckabee will never be. Social conservatives can direct and influence the conversation, because they are a big enough block that they cannot be ignored. The problem is they will never be a big enough block to actually get one of theirs nominated. They just happen to be a bit too nutty for most reasonable people.

Yeah, well you should get a better crystal ball, Nancy.

The social conservatives are on the rebound and within twnety years will dominate US politics.

Why?

Demographics.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Santorum wont be the choice. But Romney isnt going down in November. In fact, Obama is doing everything he possibly can to ensure that Romney is President come January.

Romney is going to lose.

There arent enough gullible knaves in this country to believe his lies and vote for him so he can win.

 

[Avatar4321]

Santorum wont be the choice. But Romney isnt going down in November. In fact, Obama is doing everything he possibly can to ensure that Romney is President come January.

Romney is going to lose.

There arent enough gullible knaves in this country to believe his lies and vote for him so he can win.

Funny, there were enough to vote for Obama when he promised them hope and change and screwed tons of people over with his administration. If you think he is going to win reelection with the horrible job he's done, you're dreaming.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Santorum wont be the choice. But Romney isnt going down in November. In fact, Obama is doing everything he possibly can to ensure that Romney is President come January.

Romney is going to lose.

There arent enough gullible knaves in this country to believe his lies and vote for him so he can win.

Funny, there were enough to vote for Obama when he promised them hope and change and screwed tons of people over with his administration. If you think he is going to win reelection with the horrible job he's done, you're dreaming.

Obama is not going to win because of what he has done; he is going to win because of what Romney has done.

Serious social conservatives see little difference between Obama and Romney and both would hand out more TARP.

The delta between them is negligable and so Romney loses because he is not the incumbent.