Why a profit first philosophy is bad for the world

[Truthmatters]

Bid to 'Protect Assets' Slowed Reactor Fight - WSJ.com



TOKYO—Crucial efforts to tame Japan's crippled nuclear plant were delayed by concerns over damaging valuable power assets and by initial passivity on the part of the government, people familiar with the situation said, offering new insight into the management of the crisis.

Meanwhile, a regulator who was inspecting the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear-power complex when the quake hit offered The Wall Street Journal one of the first eyewitness accounts of the havoc at the site, describing how the temblor took down all communications in the area, greatly complicating the response.

 

[dilloduck]

Bid to 'Protect Assets' Slowed Reactor Fight - WSJ.com



TOKYO—Crucial efforts to tame Japan's crippled nuclear plant were delayed by concerns over damaging valuable power assets and by initial passivity on the part of the government, people familiar with the situation said, offering new insight into the management of the crisis.

Meanwhile, a regulator who was inspecting the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear-power complex when the quake hit offered The Wall Street Journal one of the first eyewitness accounts of the havoc at the site, describing how the temblor took down all communications in the area, greatly complicating the response.

You would have preferred an expensive knee jerk reaction ?

 

[Truthmatters]

Why dont you understand that protecting lives first would have been the wiser move.

it would have even saved money in the end.

 

[martybegan]

Why dont you understand that protecting lives first would have been the wiser move.

it would have even saved money in the end.

How about the fact that this plant is a sizable portion of the availible generating capacity? if they went right to the final contigency plan of using seawater and destroying the reactor without it being nessasary, they would be destroying an asset for no reason, and subjecting Japan to a large power generating deficit for no reason.

The initial hope was a SCRAM followed by backup gen cooling would allow the units to shut down, and then, when needed be restarted to provide power back to the grid. The damage to the cooling backups ruined this plan, and when pushed they went with the reactor ruining response. They may have delayed too long, but using the final option right away would have been idiotic given the data they had at the time.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Why dont you understand that protecting lives first would have been the wiser move.

Who died yet, from the reactor situation?

 

[Truthmatters]

workers who were there when the disastors first took place.

If they were concerned first with lives instead of perserving the reactors they would have been shut down without as much mess as we are seeing.

 

[dilloduck]

Why dont you understand that protecting lives first would have been the wiser move.

it would have even saved money in the end.

The next time you have a little grease fire on the stove, flood your entire house with seawater to protect your neighborhood.
safer.

 

[Care4all]

Just out of curiosity, Do Nuclear Power Plants have insurance that covers situations like this....?

 

[Midnight Marauder]

workers who were there when the disastors first took place.

There are NO reports of fatalities from the Japanese nuclear disaster. Only injuries.

Did Chernobyl have a "profit first philosophy?" Of course, NO it did not. And this pales in comparison to that level of disaster.

Another dishonest and not at all thought out little talking point pablum from a hack, destroyed.

 

[martybegan]

workers who were there when the disastors first took place.

If they were concerned first with lives instead of perserving the reactors they would have been shut down without as much mess as we are seeing.

Do you even understand how a nuclear reactor works? You just dont shut one down instantly, its physically impossible. its not like there is an off switch for the thing.

 

[Truthmatters]

What part of the initial actions were designed to save the reators instead of securing the safety of the people do you not understand?

 

[Midnight Marauder]

workers who were there when the disastors first took place.

If they were concerned first with lives instead of perserving the reactors they would have been shut down without as much mess as we are seeing.

Do you even understand how a nuclear reactor works? You just dont shut one down instantly, its physically impossible. its not like there is an off switch for the thing.

You can turn it off, you can stop the reaction. But the radioactivity? No way.

 

[dilloduck]

What part of the initial actions were designed to save the reators instead of securing the safety of the people do you not understand?

saving the reactors saves people---quit being crazy.

 

[Truthmatters]

plant's operator—Tokyo Electric Power Co., or Tepco—considered using seawater from the nearby coast to cool one of its six reactors at least as early as last Saturday morning, the day after the quake struck. But it didn't do so until that evening, after the prime minister ordered it following an explosion at the facility. Tepco didn't begin using seawater at other reactors until Sunday.

Tepco was reluctant to use seawater because it worried about hurting its long-term investment in the complex, say people involved with the efforts. Seawater, which can render a nuclear reactor permanently inoperable, now is at the center of efforts to keep the plant under control.

Tepco "hesitated because it tried to protect its assets," said Akira Omoto, a former Tepco executive and a member of the Japan Atomic Energy Commission, an official advisory body involved in the effort to tame the plant. Both Tepco and government officials had good reason not to use saltwater, Mr. Omoto added. Early on, nuclear fuel rods were still under cooling water and undamaged, he said, adding, "it's understandable because injecting seawater into the fuel vessel renders it unusable."

 

[Truthmatters]

This is exactly what you will get with any privatization of the peoples needs.

 

[martybegan]

plant's operator—Tokyo Electric Power Co., or Tepco—considered using seawater from the nearby coast to cool one of its six reactors at least as early as last Saturday morning, the day after the quake struck. But it didn't do so until that evening, after the prime minister ordered it following an explosion at the facility. Tepco didn't begin using seawater at other reactors until Sunday.

Tepco was reluctant to use seawater because it worried about hurting its long-term investment in the complex, say people involved with the efforts. Seawater, which can render a nuclear reactor permanently inoperable, now is at the center of efforts to keep the plant under control.

Tepco "hesitated because it tried to protect its assets," said Akira Omoto, a former Tepco executive and a member of the Japan Atomic Energy Commission, an official advisory body involved in the effort to tame the plant. Both Tepco and government officials had good reason not to use saltwater, Mr. Omoto added. Early on, nuclear fuel rods were still under cooling water and undamaged, he said, adding, "it's understandable because injecting seawater into the fuel vessel renders it unusable."

Note the last statement, that at the time the rods were still being cooled. Why would you just switch to seawater when it wasnt needed? Only after FURTHER failures was seawater needed.

Why would you use something that destroys an asset when you didnt think it was nessasary? Isnt preserving your power generation ability helpful to people as well?

Where is the source of your information?

This is monday morning quarterbacking at its worst.

 

[Truthmatters]

plant's operator—Tokyo Electric Power Co., or Tepco—considered using seawater from the nearby coast to cool one of its six reactors at least as early as last Saturday morning, the day after the quake struck.

The people running the plant wanted to use the seawater and the higher ups nixed the idea at the time to try and save the assets instead of putting lives first.

 

[martybegan]

plant's operator—Tokyo Electric Power Co., or Tepco—considered using seawater from the nearby coast to cool one of its six reactors at least as early as last Saturday morning, the day after the quake struck.

The people running the plant wanted to use the seawater and the higher ups nixed the idea at the time to try and save the assets instead of putting lives first.

No references, no sources. Try to back up your statements.

 

[FuelRod]

Bullshit premise.
Someone/something always profits. Who's it gonna be?

 

[Care4all]

Personally, I think Suze Orman has it right:

People FIRST,

then MONEY,

then THINGS.