Why a Conservative America is a Myth

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    "....Democrats may win an election here or there, but at its most fundamental level, conventional political wisdom assumes America is a conservative country: hostile to government, in favor of unregulated markets, at peace with inequality, desirous of a foreign policy based on the projection of military power, and traditional in its social values.

    This report demonstrates the inaccuracy of that picture of America. Media perceptions and past Republican electoral successes notwithstanding, Americans are progressive across a wide range of controversial issues, and they're growing more progressive all the time."

    Media Matters - The Progressive Majority: Why a Conservative America is a Myth


    "Everything Americans think they know, they learned from a televised morality play. It's all theater. You root for some good guy and boo some bad guy. You pick your own, but you dance to the tune of the men running the show. It's mind control, pure and simple, and if there is an American immune to it, then he is probably living in a snow cave somewhere in Alaska." Gypsy Joe Hess (1919-1988), prospector, self-educated philosopher and horse trader
     
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    No, most people agree with liberals, for the most part. It's the Conservative's spin on what we say and do that confuses people. People think we love to give crack mothers welfare and we want to take guns away.

    And the social conservatives are a minority too. The people calling the FCC to ban Howard Stearn are really a minority.

    Bush didn't actually win 2000 or 2004. They stole it.

    And the metropolis' are liberal. The bible belt may be conservative but they don't produce squat, except cotton and tobacco.

    Every great thing that happened to this country was due to progressive movements.

    Washington was a Progressive. The conservatives wanted to stay with England.
     
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    Push comes to shove I think you'll find most Americans want the same OUTCOMES for themselves, their children, and their nation.

    Their differences are really how to arrive at that state.
     
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    True. I don't want the GOP's "survival of the fittest" plan. Even if I succeed, which I would, I don't want to see 90% of America struggle like that and see people die without dignity because the GOP wants to do away with Social Security, and things like that.

    Ed Schultz was talking about that last night on Air America Radio AM station. He said, "social security isn't the problem, it's what the politicians are doing to social security that is the problem." Social Security is a great plan.

    PS. McCain was against the lock box for social security. In other words, he approved of spending the funds on other things. Probably because he wants to do away with it.
     
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    Yup, the Bush guys were smart enough to steal 3 elections and then suddenly forgot how in 2006. You keep claiming that, you dumb shit.
     
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    Bush clearly doesn't care about the GOP party. He's done. He got his. He did things the GOP begged him not to do. And now the Republicans in office are trying to distance themselves from the president. They occasionally vote against him now to show they are not Bush lap dogs. Too late!!!

    And we are watching carefully now. It'll be hard to steal another one, dumb ass.
     
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    LOL, if there were any proof he stole any election we would have seen it by now you fucking moron. What are you? 12? Yup we can not make a secret plan to spy on Iran BUT Bush can steal elections and no one is the wiser.

    Same machines in 2006 as in 2004. But hey you keep making that claim that you were to stupid to catch them cheating you out of Nation wide elections. Sounds so much better then you retards couldn't find someone a Majority of the population would vote for.

    By the way dumb shit, are you aware Clinton never won with even 49 percent of the vote?
     
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    Well, it's an interesting attempt by the far-left "Media Matters" folks to say they've got the majority, but I don't know how well it holds up. First, it's true that Americans love government. They want more and bigger bureaucracy, not less. But when you consider that big government has been with us since FDR, it might not be wild-eyed liberalism driving that attitude, but good ol' preference for the way things are. Next, Americans not caring about taxes is, to me, a sign that they're RESIGNED to them, not that they love them.

    And so on.

    Curious they don't mention race.
     
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    We finally agree on something. So if this is the case, why do you guys keep blaming Bushes BS on the GOP and Conservatives again?

    I am a Conservative who thinks Bush is a Moron, and Anything but a Conservative.
     
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    Midcan is a brilliant mind, I gain more respect for him :eusa_whistle:by each post.
     

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