WHY 14TH Amendment MUST BE APPEALED.

[Nosmo King]

Anyone else ever notice how Conservatives want to erode freedom? Repeal the 14th amendment, repeal the 17th amendment, enforce DADT, champion racial profiling.

And on it goes. Seems that as far as the Right is concerned, we have too much freedom.

I don't wish to repeal the 14th Amendment.

It would be GREAT to repeal the fucking 17th Amendment, though.

It was Bubba who came up with DADT. Take it up with him.

Nobody is "championing" racial profiling. But it has been sagaciously noted that when 15 of 19 of the fucking 9/11/2001 hijackers are from one country and you happen to notice that, it’s not profiling, that’s being minimally observant. -- Dennis Miller

No. The desire to restrict liberty and freedom comes from the left, not the right.

right.

'cause the political right in this country has a long and storied reputation for pushing for more civil liberties. And the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

The Conservatives are ALWAYS the opposition whenever expanded personal and civil liberties are debated. ALWAYS.

 

[Liability]

Anyone else ever notice how Conservatives want to erode freedom? Repeal the 14th amendment, repeal the 17th amendment, enforce DADT, champion racial profiling.

And on it goes. Seems that as far as the Right is concerned, we have too much freedom.

I don't wish to repeal the 14th Amendment.

It would be GREAT to repeal the fucking 17th Amendment, though.

It was Bubba who came up with DADT. Take it up with him.

Nobody is "championing" racial profiling. But it has been sagaciously noted that when 15 of 19 of the fucking 9/11/2001 hijackers are from one country and you happen to notice that, it’s not profiling, that’s being minimally observant. -- Dennis Miller

No. The desire to restrict liberty and freedom comes from the left, not the right.

right.

'cause the political right in this country has a long and storied reputation for pushing for more civil liberties. And the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

The Conservatives are ALWAYS the opposition whenever expanded personal and civil liberties are debated. ALWAYS.

Yes. They do. You liberoidal Democratics have gotten a free ride from the gullible house organ known as the Lame Stream Media. You have taken credit where credit was due instead largely to the GOP. But when it comes to putting civil rights into practice, it takes guys like President George W. Bush -- someone you phonies can't even acknowledge along those lines.

The Democrap Party -- with heroes like Robert KKK Byrd -- really would have a bit more decency to just STFU.

 

[Nosmo King]

I don't wish to repeal the 14th Amendment.

It would be GREAT to repeal the fucking 17th Amendment, though.

It was Bubba who came up with DADT. Take it up with him.

Nobody is "championing" racial profiling. But it has been sagaciously noted that when 15 of 19 of the fucking 9/11/2001 hijackers are from one country and you happen to notice that, it’s not profiling, that’s being minimally observant. -- Dennis Miller

No. The desire to restrict liberty and freedom comes from the left, not the right.

right.

'cause the political right in this country has a long and storied reputation for pushing for more civil liberties. And the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

The Conservatives are ALWAYS the opposition whenever expanded personal and civil liberties are debated. ALWAYS.

Yes. They do. You liberoidal Democratics have gotten a free ride from the gullible house organ known as the Lame Stream Media. You have taken credit where credit was due instead largely to the GOP. But when it comes to putting civil rights into practice, it takes guys like President George W. Bush -- someone you phonies can't even acknowledge along those lines.

The Democrap Party -- with heroes like Robert KKK Byrd -- really would have a bit more decency to just STFU.

Equal Rights Amendment. Opposed? Phyllis Schafly, arch Conservative. Gay marriage. Opposed? The so-called "Christian" Right and Conservative candidates wanting to score points with the pointed headed Conservatives who hate and fear for fun. Civil Rights. Opposed? George Wallace, Strom Thurmond, Lester Maddox and the Ku Klux Klan: none of which can possibly be described as politically Liberal.

Nope! You fail! There has never been a Conservative who marched, legislated, championed or fought for expanded civil liberties. Ever.

 

[uscitizen]

Anyone else ever notice how Conservatives want to erode freedom? Repeal the 14th amendment, repeal the 17th amendment, enforce DADT, champion racial profiling.

And on it goes. Seems that as far as the Right is concerned, we have too much freedom.

I don't wish to repeal the 14th Amendment.

It would be GREAT to repeal the fucking 17th Amendment, though.

It was Bubba who came up with DADT. Take it up with him.

Nobody is "championing" racial profiling. But it has been sagaciously noted that when 15 of 19 of the fucking 9/11/2001 hijackers are from one country and you happen to notice that, it’s not profiling, that’s being minimally observant. -- Dennis Miller

No. The desire to restrict liberty and freedom comes from the left, not the right.

The left makes laws about revealing clothing, public nudity, etc?
Those darned bible thumping libtards.

 

[manifold]

Re-read that section. It makes NO SUCH DISTINCTION.

nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws

You bolded the wrong part. Perhaps that's where your confusion lies.

'Any person' is qualified by the phrase 'within it's jurisdiction', which an illegal alien doesn't fall under. Believing otherwise would render citizenship status irrelevent.

Fail.

Anyone born in the US is within it's jurisdiction.

 

[Liability]

Anyone else ever notice how Conservatives want to erode freedom? Repeal the 14th amendment, repeal the 17th amendment, enforce DADT, champion racial profiling.

And on it goes. Seems that as far as the Right is concerned, we have too much freedom.

I don't wish to repeal the 14th Amendment.

It would be GREAT to repeal the fucking 17th Amendment, though.

It was Bubba who came up with DADT. Take it up with him.

Nobody is "championing" racial profiling. But it has been sagaciously noted that when 15 of 19 of the fucking 9/11/2001 hijackers are from one country and you happen to notice that, it’s not profiling, that’s being minimally observant. -- Dennis Miller

No. The desire to restrict liberty and freedom comes from the left, not the right.

The left makes laws about revealing clothing, public nudity, etc?
Those darned bible thumping libtards.

No, Mr. Over-generalization instead of arguing coherently.

But a law as to publicly indecent exposure is hardly a restriction on FREEDOM, except in the twisted mind of a liberoidal schmuck.

The State's highest Court, in NY, ruled several years back that women could be topless in public places. So what happens? I get treated to the revolting sight of some ancient old bag sharing her saggy old boobs at the beach. Great.

We have managed for quite some time to consider ourselves free even where we have not been granted the right to walk around nude on main street. I don't believe we were mistaken.

 

[Liability]

Re-read that section. It makes NO SUCH DISTINCTION.

nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws

You bolded the wrong part. Perhaps that's where your confusion lies.

'Any person' is qualified by the phrase 'within it's jurisdiction', which an illegal alien doesn't fall under. Believing otherwise would render citizenship status irrelevent.

Fail.

Anyone born in the US is within it's jurisdiction.

You fail.

The phrase is not "within" its jurisidiction.

The phrase is SUBJECT TO its jurisdiction. Here. Free education just for you: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

If Mama and Papa sneak over the border while Mama is heavy with child, are Mama and Papa subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? In some ways, sure. But in other ways, clearly not. But now Mama drops her load. Little baby Booboo is born -- here. Why should HE get to be a citizen when mama and papa aren't citizens merely because of the happenstance of being born on our soil? Upon a rational reading of the 14th Amendment, that's NOT what it says.

 

[Liability]

Re-read that section. It makes NO SUCH DISTINCTION.

nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws

You bolded the wrong part. Perhaps that's where your confusion lies.

'Any person' is qualified by the phrase 'within it's jurisdiction', which an illegal alien doesn't fall under. Believing otherwise would render citizenship status irrelevent.

Fail.

Anyone born in the US is within it's jurisdiction.

You fail.

The phrase is not "within" its jurisidiction.

The phrase is SUBJECT TO its jurisdiction. Here. Free education just for you: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

If Mama and Papa sneak over the border while Mama is heavy with child, are Mama and Papa subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? In some ways, sure. But in other ways, clearly not. But now Mama drops her load. Little baby Booboo is born -- here. Why should HE get to be a citizen (when Mama and Papa aren't citizens) merely because of the happenstance of being born on our soil? Upon a rational reading of the 14th Amendment, that's NOT what it says.

 

[Liability]

In a Rep message the retarded manifold wrote:

Hi, you have received -13 reputation points from manifold.
Reputation was given for this post.

Comment:
If that comment made any sense at all I might consider rebutting.

Regards,
manifold

Since like the pussy he is, manifold insulates himself from replies, I can only respond out in the open forum:

My post, of course, did make perfectly good sense (which explains your inability to grasp it, unmanlyfold) and you can't rebut anything -- you pussy loser.

 

[Bern80]

Re-read that section. It makes NO SUCH DISTINCTION.

nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws

You bolded the wrong part. Perhaps that's where your confusion lies.

'Any person' is qualified by the phrase 'within it's jurisdiction', which an illegal alien doesn't fall under. Believing otherwise would render citizenship status irrelevent.

Fail.

Anyone born in the US is within it's jurisdiction.

Only if their parents also fall within it's jurisdiction. Jurisdiction is not someone who falls within a geographic location, it is a person subject to the laws of that location.

 

[theHawk]

Anyone else ever notice how Conservatives want to erode freedom? Repeal the 14th amendment, repeal the 17th amendment, enforce DADT, champion racial profiling.

And on it goes. Seems that as far as the Right is concerned, we have too much freedom.

I don't wish to repeal the 14th Amendment.

It would be GREAT to repeal the fucking 17th Amendment, though.

It was Bubba who came up with DADT. Take it up with him.

Nobody is "championing" racial profiling. But it has been sagaciously noted that when 15 of 19 of the fucking 9/11/2001 hijackers are from one country and you happen to notice that, it’s not profiling, that’s being minimally observant. -- Dennis Miller

No. The desire to restrict liberty and freedom comes from the left, not the right.

right.

'cause the political right in this country has a long and storied reputation for pushing for more civil liberties. And the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

The Conservatives are ALWAYS the opposition whenever expanded personal and civil liberties are debated. ALWAYS.

You mean like when the GOP freed the slaves and passed the Civil Rights Act?

 

[Nosmo King]

I don't wish to repeal the 14th Amendment.

It would be GREAT to repeal the fucking 17th Amendment, though.

It was Bubba who came up with DADT. Take it up with him.

Nobody is "championing" racial profiling. But it has been sagaciously noted that when 15 of 19 of the fucking 9/11/2001 hijackers are from one country and you happen to notice that, it’s not profiling, that’s being minimally observant. -- Dennis Miller

No. The desire to restrict liberty and freedom comes from the left, not the right.

right.

'cause the political right in this country has a long and storied reputation for pushing for more civil liberties. And the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

The Conservatives are ALWAYS the opposition whenever expanded personal and civil liberties are debated. ALWAYS.

You mean like when the GOP freed the slaves and passed the Civil Rights Act?

Conservatives are the topic, not politcal parties. There is a difference.

 

[theHawk]

All we have to do is build a wall, actually patrol it and the border, fine businesses that hire illegals, and cut all welfare programs that illegals take advantage of. Also throw in a national law similar to Arizona's, and we'll see a mass exodus.

So reality hasn't hit you yet?

The numbers of illegal aliens in this country have gone DOWN.

Why?

The Obama administration sent troops to the borders to patrol them, is fining businesses for hiring illegals, and is sending many illegal back to their countries in record numbers.

As for all the other stuff..welfare programs? Come on..you need identification.. Please, continue the myths.

Right, everything is A-OK now because Obama is furiously enforcing immigration laws now. The only reason the number has gone down, slightly I might add, is because our economy is so fucking bad that even illegals can't find jobs here.

Carry on, dipshit.

 

[theHawk]

right.

'cause the political right in this country has a long and storied reputation for pushing for more civil liberties. And the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

The Conservatives are ALWAYS the opposition whenever expanded personal and civil liberties are debated. ALWAYS.

You mean like when the GOP freed the slaves and passed the Civil Rights Act?

Conservatives are the topic, not politcal parties. There is a difference.

So I guess in those days the Democrats had a whole lot of conservatives on their side.

 

[Nosmo King]

You mean like when the GOP freed the slaves and passed the Civil Rights Act?

Conservatives are the topic, not politcal parties. There is a difference.

So I guess in those days the Democrats had a whole lot of conservatives on their side.

Yes, they did. A lot of the south was Democrat and Conservative.

Lincoln was a Republican, but not a Conservative. He waged a war against states rights and for a stronger federal union.

Theodore Roosevelt was a Republican but not a Conservative. He was known as the "Trust Buster" as he used federal power to break up and regulate monopolies in the private sector.

George Wallace was a Democrat, but not a Liberal. He fought against integration and against the federal power to force states to treat Black Americans as equal citizens.

So, add lol smilies all damn day long. But the facts are as plain as the nose on your face. Conservatives never EVER advocate for freedoms. They want to erode it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It doesn't need to be repealed, just followed. The 14th ammedment; Section 1 says:

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Since illegal aliens are not under the jurisdiction of the United States (because they aren't citizens) then nor are their babies, even if born on U.S. soil.

The kook approach from Bern80. Sorry, kiddo, that is not true. All people are subject to due process and equal protection who live in the U.S. that's the way it, and it will never change.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I don't wish to repeal the 14th Amendment.

It would be GREAT to repeal the fucking 17th Amendment, though.

It was Bubba who came up with DADT. Take it up with him.

Nobody is "championing" racial profiling. But it has been sagaciously noted that when 15 of 19 of the fucking 9/11/2001 hijackers are from one country and you happen to notice that, it’s not profiling, that’s being minimally observant. -- Dennis Miller

No. The desire to restrict liberty and freedom comes from the left, not the right.

right.

'cause the political right in this country has a long and storied reputation for pushing for more civil liberties. And the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

The Conservatives are ALWAYS the opposition whenever expanded personal and civil liberties are debated. ALWAYS.

You mean like when the GOP freed the slaves and passed the Civil Rights Act?

The Radical Republicans were liberals and you better believe Lincoln was for big government. Yeah, those liberal Republicans.

Nice try, hawk.

 

[Bern80]

It doesn't need to be repealed, just followed. The 14th ammedment; Section 1 says:

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Since illegal aliens are not under the jurisdiction of the United States (because they aren't citizens) then nor are their babies, even if born on U.S. soil.

The kook approach from Bern80. Sorry, kiddo, that is not true. All people are subject to due process and equal protection who live in the U.S. that's the way it, and it will never change.

Really? Kinda makes ya wonder why we make people jump through a bunch of hoops to become citizens if they're already entitled to all of those privelidges anyway by the mere act of being within our borders doesn't it?

 

[midcan5]

How is it that immigrants legal or not are the cause of all things bad and awful? In the current economic situation no one mentions corporate outsourcing or manufacturing in third world nations, no one mentions the incredible war bill. It is always some people who are the reason.


"Hell is other people." Jean-Paul Sartre

 

[Nosmo King]

How is it that immigrants legal or not are the cause of all things bad and awful? In the current economic situation no one mentions corporate outsourcing or manufacturing in third world nations, no one mentions the incredible war bill. It is always some people who are the reason.


"Hell is other people." Jean-Paul Sartre

When in doubt, sell the fear of 'the other'. Some Conservatives believe that they too can be rich if given the unfettered marketplace. What they fail to account for is the ante. Without the up front money, everyone is doomed to be in the ever eroding middle class. Those who aspire to great wealth, Madoff wealth, Trump wealth, yet fail find it easy to blame some outside force or what they see as a "privileged" minority and not the rigged game they did not know they were playing.