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Why was Judge Roll and several others killed? Why is Congressman Giffords fighting for her life tonight?
We won't know until they interrogate the shooter and publicize the results. Mebbe it was mental illness and nothing could have prevented this.
But mebbe it was a sick interpretation of the vitriol most all of us have been guilty of at one time or another. Each of us at least has allowed a candidate we support to use such imagery and not spoken up against it.
I think we should all, myself included, guard our tongues a bit more. No more wishing anyone else dead....that's a goofy way of expressing outrage and frustration anyway. No more allowing our candidates to use a gun sight as part of their imagery.
I hope to God all who have survived the shooting in Arizona thus far make full recoveries....and I am saddened by the loss of those who died, especially the 9 year old. Let us all commit to trying harder to remain somewhat civil.
I would never want someone to murder anyone, not even cheney.
I will still celibrate the day he dies a natural death.
He is evil.
It is the fault of one person and only person - the man who pulled the trigger. We all have free will. He chose to exercise his by murdering and injuring others. There is no one else to blame, period.
What is a "drug head?" Is that anything like an alcoholic? I ask that because alcohol is responsible for the vast majority of violent behavior.Actually the shooter was a drug head, not a crazy so to speak.
Tell me, guys. Would any of you object if Palin and other public figures made a pledge to never again use violence in her speech or as an image?
a graphic she had on her facebook page targeting 20 congressional democrats for election defeat
Tell me, guys. Would any of you object if Palin and other public figures made a pledge to never again use violence in her speech or as an image?
What specifically are you referencing to with Palin?
how many more times are you gonna post that?
how many more times are you gonna post that?
and you should understand that doesnt support your meme
you lie by trying to make it useful for a political tool
a graphic she had on her facebook page targeting 20 congressional democrats for election defeat
Tell me, guys. Would any of you object if Palin and other public figures made a pledge to never again use violence in her speech or as an image?
What specifically are you referencing to with Palin?
this is the spin to make it Sarah Palin's fault
its sickening because the SHOOTER is the one at fault
I dun think any of us needs to surrender our civil rights. But before any action is a thought....when we use violence as a metaphor (and I accept my own guilt here) we create an atmosphere where saying such things seems acceptable and common.
To that extent, I think most all of us share some guilt for what happened today. Not legal liability, no....something more along the lines of helping to create wishes that should not see the light of day.
I imagine I'll slip up when anger and frustration overtake me, or I am tired, or lazy....I hope to be reminded of this thread then.
Tell me, guys. Would any of you object if Palin and other public figures made a pledge to never again use violence in her speech or as an image?
a graphic she had on her facebook page targeting 20 congressional democrats for election defeat
Tell me, guys. Would any of you object if Palin and other public figures made a pledge to never again use violence in her speech or as an image?
What specifically are you referencing to with Palin?
this is the spin to make it Sarah Palin's fault
its sickening because the SHOOTER is the one at fault
I dun think any of us needs to surrender our civil rights. But before any action is a thought....when we use violence as a metaphor (and I accept my own guilt here) we create an atmosphere where saying such things seems acceptable and common.
To that extent, I think most all of us share some guilt for what happened today. Not legal liability, no....something more along the lines of helping to create wishes that should not see the light of day.
I imagine I'll slip up when anger and frustration overtake me, or I am tired, or lazy....I hope to be reminded of this thread then.
Tell me, guys. Would any of you object if Palin and other public figures made a pledge to never again use violence in her speech or as an image?
a graphic she had on her facebook page targeting 20 congressional democrats for election defeatWhat specifically are you referencing to with Palin?
this is the spin to make it Sarah Palin's fault
its sickening because the SHOOTER is the one at fault
Dive, if Maddie seriously believes the ad is somehow the root of this, it only proves how desperate and despicable our media has become, and how easy it is to lead the foolish to the slaughter....
I found the Huff Post trying to make this connection mid afternoon yesterday and have since seen Olbermann try and make the same. They and anyone else trying to assimilate this is filled with pure evil and hate, they are just as bad as the shooter, if not worse. Hell he is truly ill, what excuse do they have?
Sad, truly sad.....
a graphic she had on her facebook page targeting 20 congressional democrats for election defeatWhat specifically are you referencing to with Palin?
this is the spin to make it Sarah Palin's fault
its sickening because the SHOOTER is the one at fault
Palin is a major offender, Divey, but not the only one. Does it help civilize the debate when Olbermann designates someone "The Worst Person In The World"?
There's enough blame to go around.
funny, how come you are blaming people that had NOTHING to do with it, just like TneverM is doing, and i'm placing the blame where it belongs, the actual perpetrator of the crime, the SHOOTERa graphic she had on her facebook page targeting 20 congressional democrats for election defeatWhat specifically are you referencing to with Palin?
this is the spin to make it Sarah Palin's fault
its sickening because the SHOOTER is the one at fault
Palin is a major offender, Divey, but not the only one. Does it help civilize the debate when Olbermann designates someone "The Worst Person In The World"?
There's enough blame to go around.
I dun think any of us needs to surrender our civil rights. But before any action is a thought....when we use violence as a metaphor (and I accept my own guilt here) we create an atmosphere where saying such things seems acceptable and common.
To that extent, I think most all of us share some guilt for what happened today. Not legal liability, no....something more along the lines of helping to create wishes that should not see the light of day.
I imagine I'll slip up when anger and frustration overtake me, or I am tired, or lazy....I hope to be reminded of this thread then.
Tell me, guys. Would any of you object if Palin and other public figures made a pledge to never again use violence in her speech or as an image?
a graphic she had on her facebook page targeting 20 congressional democrats for election defeat
this is the spin to make it Sarah Palin's fault
its sickening because the SHOOTER is the one at fault
Dive, if Maddie seriously believes the ad is somehow the root of this, it only proves how desperate and despicable our media has become, and how easy it is to lead the foolish to the slaughter....
I found the Huff Post trying to make this connection mid afternoon yesterday and have since seen Olbermann try and make the same. They and anyone else trying to assimilate this is filled with pure evil and hate, they are just as bad as the shooter, if not worse. Hell he is truly ill, what excuse do they have?
Sad, truly sad.....
Not a direct connection, GWV5903. And I dun think Palin is any more responsible than many others in public life, though her imagery is easier to spot. I think we have allowed our discourse to become riddled with violent references, to become extreme and uncivil. There's a violent subtext to Obama claiming we need to work against "our enemies" in the Republican Party, too. No matter who you feel best represents your POV, the fact is we've allowed an echo of violence in our political debate that should not be there.
In such an atmosphere, a disturbed person may find it easier to form thoughts of violence. As for blame, I think we all have a portion, or at least most of us.
This is how I see things: an argument has grown heated and many of us, including me, are guilty of raising the volume. Shouting, using bad language, attacking the motives of those who disagree, etc. We add to the panic and anxiety of our readers at times.
In THAT way, I think we all share some blame, and personally, I hope to do better.
Meanwhile, if the shooter really is mentally ill, I guess the law will cope. Insanity defenses are very rare, and even more rarely successful....and I would no more agree to spend time in a criminal forensic hospital than in Hell.
