Whose Fault?: 66 foot Vessel Capsizes w/ about 700 On Board

[Meathead]

A 66-foot boat capsized off Malta with an estimated 700 immigrants on their way to Italy. A week earlier another 400 or so have said to have drowned.

Amnesty Int: "This is a Europe-wide crisis that needs a Europe-wide response. How many more will have to drown before EU governments, including the U.K., wake up to their responsibilities to save lives?"

Hundreds feared dead after migrant boat capsizes MSNBC

What, exactly, is Europe supposed to do?

 

[Mr Natural]

That's a lot of people for a boat that size.

 

[Katzndogz]

It's not to empty out Africa.

The mistake was in letting any immigrants in. If the first boats had been sunk or turned away these thousands wouldn't be leaving now.

 

[dannyboys]

It's not to empty out Africa.

The mistake was in letting any immigrants in. If the first boats had been sunk or turned away these thousands wouldn't be leaving now.

Typical LIB reaction: "It's Europes responsibility". Fucking bullshit.
It's ultimately the responsibility of anyone who get's on the overloaded boat.
I bet the Captain and crew survived.

 

[Meathead]

They didn't even have the chance to throw the Christians overboard.

Muslim migrants threw Christians overboard police say - CNN.com

 

[Delta4Embassy]

A 66-foot boat capsized off Malta with an estimated 700 immigrants on their way to Italy. A week earlier another 400 or so have said to have drowned.

Amnesty Int: "This is a Europe-wide crisis that needs a Europe-wide response. How many more will have to drown before EU governments, including the U.K., wake up to their responsibilities to save lives?"

Hundreds feared dead after migrant boat capsizes MSNBC

What, exactly, is Europe supposed to do?

Anything and everything that happens on board a vessel is the ultimate responsibility of the Captain.

 

[eagle1462010]

Overloaded boat.............the captain of the boat is ultimately responsible................

Who allowed the overloading..........the company...........or whoever allows the overloading is also responsible as they may be telling the Captain to LOAD HER DOWN or Lose your job as well.

Don't see that part in the story...............but the Captain should have stopped the loading, knowing he had too many people.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[Meathead]

Overloaded boat.............the captain of the boat is ultimately responsible................

Who allowed the overloading..........the company...........or whoever allows the overloading is also responsible as they may be telling the Captain to LOAD HER DOWN or Lose your job as well.

Don't see that part in the story...............but the Captain should have stopped the loading, knowing he had too many people.

Yes, because that was a legitimate shipping company involved in the legal international transport of people.

Seriously?! Is that the solution? You do realize we're dealing with practically lawless countries where corruption is rampart, right?

 

[eagle1462010]

Overloaded boat.............the captain of the boat is ultimately responsible................

Who allowed the overloading..........the company...........or whoever allows the overloading is also responsible as they may be telling the Captain to LOAD HER DOWN or Lose your job as well.

Don't see that part in the story...............but the Captain should have stopped the loading, knowing he had too many people.

Yes, because that was a legitimate shipping company involved in the legal international transport of people.

Seriously?! Is that the solution? You do realize we're dealing with practically lawless countries where corruption is rampart, right?

I understand what you are saying..........but I'm quoting Maritime Law here................and ultimately the Captain is the MASTER OF THE SHIP.............at sea he is the law................

I understand that thousands are fleeing the violence in Africa............which is the underlying reason for these incidents..............primarily escaping the violence in Libya now...........as are people fleeing Sudan, etc..........from the killing going on there...............my Islamic radicals...........

They'd rather take their chances on a overcrowded boat and die at sea than remain in their host countries..........Die at sea or die at home..............seems to be their choices.

 

[Preacher]

Good. 700 less invaders. Italy should have a shoot first policy sink every fucking boat,raft,ship trying to bring more trash to their shores.

 

[eagle1462010]

Amid flood of refugees to Europe Italy opens a back door - The Washington Post

It is called Mare Nostrum.

Our Sea.

It started last year after a series of shipwrecks off Sicily’s coast killed more than 500 migrants. In what Italian authorities call a key turning point,Pope Francis flew to the site of one tragedy, providing Italians with what some here describe as a new moral compass.

“Who has wept for the deaths of these brothers and sisters?” Frances said last year on the Italian island of Lampedusa, after a sinking migrant vessel off the coast had gone unaided. “Who has wept for the people who were on the boat? For the young mothers carrying their babies? For these men who wanted something to support their families with?”

Now, at a cost of more than $12 million a month, the Italian navy is conducting massive interdiction and rescue operations in Europe’s single-busiest corridor for migrant traffic — the central Mediterranean. Rescued migrants are brought to port in Italy, offered medical treatment, food, water and temporary shelter. Instead of immediate deportation, the vast majority are granted legal aid to make formal requests for asylum and other forms of humanitarian protection. This year, Italian laws were changed to decriminalize migrants, who once faced the prospect of jail time and fines before deportation.

Once in Italy, however, most do not stay here. Rather, the Italians have adopted a don’t-ask, don’t-tell policy on their plans once they arrive. From shelters, where migrants enjoy relative freedom of movement, most leave within the first few nights, continuing their journeys north to countries such as Germany and Sweden that offer lucrative aid to asylum-seekers lucky enough to make it that far.

The program has its detractors, with other European nations and domestic critics saying that Italy, by aiding migrants at sea, is partly to blame for encouraging more and more dangerous crossings. So lax is the Italian entry procedure, critics contend, that criminals, even terrorists, could be slipping through Italian nets.

As arrivals approach 1,000 migrants per day, Italy is now overwhelmed, and Mare Nostrum faces an uncertain future. The island of Sicily — the first port of call for the majority of migrants — has declared a state of emergency. Cash-strapped Italian authorities have suggested that they may end the program by autumn. Last month, the European Union’s border agency, Frontex, pledged to ramp up regional support for the Italian effort. But the scope of their aid remains in doubt.

 

[pismoe]

thanks Eagle , been going on for a while , western Europe , maybe the western world is doomed !!

 

[Preacher]

2 Italian states have already refused to accept any more invaders...Lombardi and I can't remember the 2nd one..The PEOPLE of Europe are getting sick of this shit.

 

[Meathead]

Maybe Europe should arrange (and of course pay) for first-class airfare to their destination of choice within the EU and limousine service to their selected accommodation. This would serve to save them from the smugglers' overcrowded boats and eliminating the chance of drowning.

 

[pismoe]

Italy's 2 states or 10 or whatever it is doesn't really matter , they'll just head for Europe Odium !!

 

[rhodescholar]

A 66-foot boat capsized off Malta with an estimated 700 immigrants on their way to Italy. A week earlier another 400 or so have said to have drowned.

Amnesty Int: "This is a Europe-wide crisis that needs a Europe-wide response. How many more will have to drown before EU governments, including the U.K., wake up to their responsibilities to save lives?"

Hundreds feared dead after migrant boat capsizes MSNBC

What, exactly, is Europe supposed to do?

This is absolutely fantastic news, made my morning breakfast and coffee taste so much better. I am so sick and fed up with southern hemisphere poor, especially muslims and central/south americans, bypassing a hundred of their own countries to come to the stable West - what they railed against for years chanting "death to america" - and arriving to expect lots of welfare and handouts. Time to start patrolling the mediterranean and sinking these ships of muslim filth on sight.

 

[Pogo]

Clearly it's the fault of Democrats who run Detroit.

 

[Pogo]

A 66-foot boat capsized off Malta with an estimated 700 immigrants on their way to Italy. A week earlier another 400 or so have said to have drowned.

Amnesty Int: "This is a Europe-wide crisis that needs a Europe-wide response. How many more will have to drown before EU governments, including the U.K., wake up to their responsibilities to save lives?"

Hundreds feared dead after migrant boat capsizes MSNBC

What, exactly, is Europe supposed to do?

This is absolutely fantastic news, made my morning breakfast and coffee taste so much better. I am so sick and fed up with southern hemisphere poor, especially muslims and central/south americans, bypassing a hundred of their own countries to come to the stable West - what they railed against for years chanting "death to america" - and arriving to expect lots of welfare and handouts. Time to start patrolling the mediterranean and sinking these ships of muslim filth on sight.

You should see a psychiatrist. Yesterday.

 

[pismoe]

footloose and fancy free , benefits are probably better in Germany , France , England and those countries are just a hop , skip and a jump away from Italy !!