Who's Philip Zelikow & what does he have to do with 911?

[Mr. Jones]

Phillip Zelekow who was the head of the 9-11 commission, is an interesting figure directly involved with what you may have come to believe about the 9-11 story. His thesis in college was in creating public myth. 9-11 was the ultimate public myth.

"Contemporary history is defined functionally by those critical people and events that go into forming the public's presumptions about it immediate past....akin to "public myth" without all the negative implication.
Such presumptions are beliefs thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and shared in common within the relevant political community".-------Phillip Zelekow

Prior to his appointment to head the 9-11 commission, Zelekow was the executive director of the Aspen strategy group (Markle Task Force on National Security) whose members include Cheney, Rice, and Wolfowitz.

The 9-11 attacks were put into place by members of this group, with the intention of provoking the decided response, to carry out the agenda currently in place.

Zelekow controlled what was in the commission report, and what could be investigated, and given his background, it was set up to cover up the truth, and deceive the American people and politicians that speak on behalf of the American people.

Norad officials committed perjury when they were asked to account for their account of the 9-11 attacks, and the time line. Kean and Hamilton were aware of this and there is public records indicating as such. The question then arose as to what to do, and had a closed door meeting, of the commission staff, and members and Zelekow was no doubt part of this meeting.
Kean and Hamilton have said they considered forwarding to the DOJ criminal charges based on the lies that have been told to them in the NORAD officials testimonies, and the decision that came out of that meeting was NO.

So Zelekow seems to have been a party to suborning perjury, in front of the commission as well.

Zelekow focuses on what he calls "searing" or "molding" events that take on "transcendent" importance, and therefore retain their power even as the experience generation passes from the scene.--Wikipedia

Zelekow's experience in creating public myth, and he ended up being the head of the 9-11 commission, is rather revealing.

Zelekow even covered up the information given to him about Able Danger, were he was told that the hijackers were in the US much earlier.

Zelekow is an example of the kind of invisible government operative, who is part of the cover up that will attempt to make sure that the truth about the 9-11 attacks is never known all the while, eagerly calling for military action against Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and other Arab, and Muslim countries.
This is exactly the kind of person that needs to be investigated, who did actions in suborning perjury, covering up evidence, and making certain vital questions simply disappeared from the report.

This SOB and the rest of the treasonous scum should be held accountable for their actions but never will unless the American people get their collective heads out of their asses, and demand accountability instead of fantasy, and settle on "public myth".

PART 1-
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkxVhZFbOPE&feature=related]Who's Philip Zelikow & what does he have to do with 911? pt1 - YouTube[/ame]

PART 2-
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQBAJ06OoLw&feature=player_embedded]Who's Philip Zelikow & what does he have to do with 911? pt2 - YouTube[/ame]

The above post is comprised of excerpts from the first video.

 

[Mr. Jones]

Quoting Phillip Zelekow-- excerpts from the 2nd video...

"There actually about 2 thousand allegations of this kind, of which we saw a lot and we did tried to knock down ..we took on a few of the most important ones..in the report, but there are so many incredible allegations, of this kind, that we did not..we.. it would have taken us hundreds of pages in the report, which was already a pretty long report, and we would have had to say "here's why that's bogus, here's why that's bogus, here's why that's bogus,
and we could have gone on like that for a long time, but we didn't do that because then um..what would have happened, is we couldn't have sustained the narrative and the kind of report we wanted to provide, so we covered a lot of those bases, and there's a vast body of information underneath our report, ..that's not in the report, we..umm, we interviewed thousands of people, and we looked at millions of pages of documents, and the report is just the tip of the iceberg of the work that we did, we responded to questions, that 9-11 families gave to us, about a lot of different conspiracy theories, stock market manipulation, and other allegations, and..but the theories regenerate and take new forms, ...depending on whatever, whatever you say, ..once you disprove one version, it just mutates into another version of it....

The older man posing the questions to Zelekow, then retorts, "But you didn't prove your own version of it"!

Zelekow did not respond amid laughter from the idiots surrounding him, and himself.

How true that statement was then, as well as today, 10 yrs later...

When asked about about building 7, specifically why it wasn't part of his report, 6.5 secs...apparent controlled demolition, why didn't the commission mention...even , and investigate especially, ugh..buildings' 7 6.5 sec...47 story building...

He responds while sipping his drink, that there is an enormous engineering study that's...by the NIST, that was actually done on the collapse of the WTC, and the engineering aspect of the attack, but we don't actually believe that there is a kind of controlled demolition scenario that you hypothesis,...

Anyone who denies that the WTC7 building did not look like a CD, is fooling themselves, because the implications are too horrible for the average American who, all their lives has trusted their "Uncle Sam" to take care of them and tell them what to think or do, and tell them the truth, would be destroyed and fall into a reality that would be unbearable to even fathom.

Zelekow---
"We don't find any persuasive, affirmative evidence that that scenario is actually is true"

"I remember getting a call from the fire dept. commander,
telling me that they were not sure that they would be able to contain the fire.. I said , you know we 've had such terrible loss of life, so the smartest thing to do is "PULL IT"...uh, they made that decision to "pull" and then we watched the building collapse".--Larry Silverstein

Zelekow is asked again..."but 6.5 secs, how do you account for that when it wasn't even hit by a plane'?

Zelekow answers by finishing his drink, grabbing his bag, and walking away ending the question answer exchange...

This is essentially what many people are doing when faced with the hard scientific questions, walking away from reality... especially when it comes to WTC7..

Ignoring these and other questions by replying with far fetched strawman theories is NOT a "thorough debunking" as many on here like to pretend.
Continuing to ask about, and explore the "public myth" that has become the 9-11 attacks, in no way demeans the value of the lives lost that day, and the others who continue to perish from the lies of the US government and the insidious evil people that have been allowed to infiltrate our nations government and highest places of authority, and our way of life.

Zelekow and his ilk, are the greatest threat to America, and the world. I find it pathetic that many people have gone out to say that the so called "9-11 conspiracy people" have made a living on our beliefs and doubts by writing books about it, when this scumbag, Rice and others have written books about their version of 9-11.

The government has provided no redress for the 9-11 truth movements' grievances, as it seems the entire apparatus of government has been infiltrated by these kinds of people. Even the 9-11 commission members have stated in public they were set up to fail the American people.
Ask yourself...with the kind of power these people have been given, the power to manipulate and create "public myth".. the power to silence, and ridicule, the power to send off our young people to die, by creating the perceptions of reality that they have.... is it any wonder that it has been extremely difficult to keep many true aspects about the 9-11 attacks from being known?

 

[jillian]

your first misstatement was that he was the head of the 9.11 commission. he was the executive director. the chairs of the 9.11 commission were thomas keane and lee hamilton. zelikow was considered staff.

as for the rest... you troofer nutters all come out of the woodwork before 9.11.

 

[Jos]

How boldly the Jews try to keep alive the theory that no jews were involved

 

[Mr. Jones]

your first misstatement was that he was the head of the 9.11 commission. he was the executive director. the chairs of the 9.11 commission were thomas keane and lee hamilton. zelikow was considered staff.

as for the rest... you troofer nutters all come out of the woodwork before 9.11.

Trying to nitpic and avoiding the real true facts of the topic I see...You didn't address any of the facts presented to readers . FWIW-

Philip D. Zelikow, Executive Director/Chair
9/11 Commission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
The OCTA nutters are the ones bombarding us and trying to solidify the BS of the fairy tale narrative all over the TV and the news stations.

Fact remains that the 9-11 commission was set up to deceive the American people by creating a "public myth", and in charge was Philip D. Zelikow, Executive Director/Chair.

 

[percysunshine]

your first misstatement was that he was the head of the 9.11 commission. he was the executive director. the chairs of the 9.11 commission were thomas keane and lee hamilton. zelikow was considered staff.

as for the rest... you troofer nutters all come out of the woodwork before 9.11.

Shhh...this should be a good one.

 

[Mr. Jones]

How boldly the Jews try to keep alive the theory that no jews were involved

And look and see how many of them were charged with positions of power and authority in that administration. Look at how many were involved with PNAC.

Catastrophic Terrorism

Welcome to the Project for the New American Century

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[Mr. Jones]

How boldly the Jews try to keep alive the theory that no jews were involved

Muslims Suspend Laws of Physics

 

[yidnar]

Phillip Zelekow who was the head of the 9-11 commission, is an interesting figure directly involved with what you may have come to believe about the 9-11 story. His thesis in college was in creating public myth. 9-11 was the ultimate public myth.

"Contemporary history is defined functionally by those critical people and events that go into forming the public's presumptions about it immediate past....akin to "public myth" without all the negative implication.
Such presumptions are beliefs thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and shared in common within the relevant political community".-------Phillip Zelekow

Prior to his appointment to head the 9-11 commission, Zelekow was the executive director of the Aspen strategy group (Markle Task Force on National Security) whose members include Cheney, Rice, and Wolfowitz.

The 9-11 attacks were put into place by members of this group, with the intention of provoking the decided response, to carry out the agenda currently in place.

Zelekow controlled what was in the commission report, and what could be investigated, and given his background, it was set up to cover up the truth, and deceive the American people and politicians that speak on behalf of the American people.

Norad officials committed perjury when they were asked to account for their account of the 9-11 attacks, and the time line. Kean and Hamilton were aware of this and there is public records indicating as such. The question then arose as to what to do, and had a closed door meeting, of the commission staff, and members and Zelekow was no doubt part of this meeting.
Kean and Hamilton have said they considered forwarding to the DOJ criminal charges based on the lies that have been told to them in the NORAD officials testimonies, and the decision that came out of that meeting was NO.

So Zelekow seems to have been a party to suborning perjury, in front of the commission as well.

Zelekow focuses on what he calls "searing" or "molding" events that take on "transcendent" importance, and therefore retain their power even as the experience generation passes from the scene.--Wikipedia

Zelekow's experience in creating public myth, and he ended up being the head of the 9-11 commission, is rather revealing.

Zelekow even covered up the information given to him about Able Danger, were he was told that the hijackers were in the US much earlier.

Zelekow is an example of the kind of invisible government operative, who is part of the cover up that will attempt to make sure that the truth about the 9-11 attacks is never known all the while, eagerly calling for military action against Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and other Arab, and Muslim countries.
This is exactly the kind of person that needs to be investigated, who did actions in suborning perjury, covering up evidence, and making certain vital questions simply disappeared from the report.

This SOB and the rest of the treasonous scum should be held accountable for their actions but never will unless the American people get their collective heads out of their asses, and demand accountability instead of fantasy, and settle on "public myth".

PART 1-
Who's Philip Zelikow & what does he have to do with 911? pt1 - YouTube

PART 2-
Who's Philip Zelikow & what does he have to do with 911? pt2 - YouTube

The above post is comprised of excerpts from the first video.

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[TakeAStepBack]

Real intelligence around here. Nice post, Jones....

 

[SFC Ollie]

I see more opinions, and more accusations. Did I miss the proof again?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Yes. Yes you did gomer pile.

 

[SFC Ollie]

I said proof, not poof.....

 

[Mr. Jones]

Yes. Yes you did gomer pile.

He always "misses" the proof despite it being right in the story, and the facts concerning whatever is written that buts serious doubt on the lack of honesty on the 9-11 commission, even if the doubts come from the 9-11 members themselves.
Ollie is a poster child of the level of ignorance and denial that is rampant in America. The picture of someone putting their fingers in their ears, and closing their eyes when it comes to him, comes to mind.

I'll bet he still doesn't believe remote controlled planes are possible, or the 9-11 connection to this technology.
But he sure as hell will believe in internal silent collapses, despite the highly improbable odds of that, and that 3 massive buildings all globally collapsed at near free fall speeds due to jet fuel, and dislodged fire proofing, even though NIST offers NO PROOF, of this being possible.

The 9-11 commission was a farce, and the staff members have said as much. Norad officials lied 3 times, and Zelekow let it slip by to create the public myth, but gomer pays no attention to that.

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

Oh my GAWD. Another 9/11 truther story. I think I'm going to read something more interesting... like Obama's jobs bill. Both fantasies...

 

[SFC Ollie]

Yes. Yes you did gomer pile.

He always "misses" the proof despite it being right in the story, and the facts concerning whatever is written that buts serious doubt on the lack of honesty on the 9-11 commission, even if the doubts come from the 9-11 members themselves.
Ollie is a poster child of the level of ignorance and denial that is rampant in America. The picture of someone putting their fingers in their ears, and closing their eyes when it comes to him, comes to mind.

I'll bet he still doesn't believe remote controlled planes are possible, or the 9-11 connection to this technology.
But he sure as hell will believe in internal silent collapses, despite the highly improbable odds of that, and that 3 massive buildings all globally collapsed at near free fall speeds due to jet fuel, and dislodged fire proofing, even though NIST offers NO PROOF, of this being possible.

The 9-11 commission was a farce, and the staff members have said as much. Norad officials lied 3 times, and Zelekow let it slip by to create the public myth, but gomer pays no attention to that.

3 buildings collapsed at near freefall speeds? Really? You still want to go with that even though it's been proven time and time again that you are wrong?

And yes it has been said that certain offices lied to the 911 Commission. And I have no doubt that they did. But what did they lie about? I can promise you that their lies does nothing to prove or even promote in the vaguest way your controlled demo theories.

 

[daws101]

Yes. Yes you did gomer pile.

He always "misses" the proof despite it being right in the story, and the facts concerning whatever is written that buts serious doubt on the lack of honesty on the 9-11 commission, even if the doubts come from the 9-11 members themselves.
Ollie is a poster child of the level of ignorance and denial that is rampant in America. The picture of someone putting their fingers in their ears, and closing their eyes when it comes to him, comes to mind.

I'll bet he still doesn't believe remote controlled planes are possible, or the 9-11 connection to this technology.
But he sure as hell will believe in internal silent collapses, despite the highly improbable odds of that, and that 3 massive buildings all globally collapsed at near free fall speeds due to jet fuel, and dislodged fire proofing, even though NIST offers NO PROOF, of this being possible.

The 9-11 commission was a farce, and the staff members have said as much. Norad officials lied 3 times, and Zelekow let it slip by to create the public myth, but gomer pays no attention to that.

3 buildings collapsed at near freefall speeds? Really? You still want to go with that even though it's been proven time and time again that you are wrong?

And yes it has been said that certain offices lied to the 911 Commission. And I have no doubt that they did. But what did they lie about? I can promise you that their lies does nothing to prove or even promote in the vaguest way your controlled demo theories.

the truth is no they can't ...their wish is, you're a shill!

 

[Mr. Jones]

Yes. Yes you did gomer pile.

He always "misses" the proof despite it being right in the story, and the facts concerning whatever is written that buts serious doubt on the lack of honesty on the 9-11 commission, even if the doubts come from the 9-11 members themselves.
Ollie is a poster child of the level of ignorance and denial that is rampant in America. The picture of someone putting their fingers in their ears, and closing their eyes when it comes to him, comes to mind.

I'll bet he still doesn't believe remote controlled planes are possible, or the 9-11 connection to this technology.
But he sure as hell will believe in internal silent collapses, despite the highly improbable odds of that, and that 3 massive buildings all globally collapsed at near free fall speeds due to jet fuel, and dislodged fire proofing, even though NIST offers NO PROOF, of this being possible.

The 9-11 commission was a farce, and the staff members have said as much. Norad officials lied 3 times, and Zelekow let it slip by to create the public myth, but gomer pays no attention to that.

3 buildings collapsed at near freefall speeds? Really? You still want to go with that even though it's been proven time and time again that you are wrong?

And yes it has been said that certain offices lied to the 911 Commission. And I have no doubt that they did. But what did they lie about? I can promise you that their lies does nothing to prove or even promote in the vaguest way your controlled demo theories.

It proves THEY LIED you nitwit! That the 9-11 report is NOT entirely accurate, that there is a STRONG POSSIBILITY OF A COVER UP!
How you can view this revelation as being inconsequential is beyond words.

And WTC 7 achieved free fall acceleration, so sue me, the fact remains the buildings came down at speeds faster then the damage and temps indicated.
It has not ever been proven that the descent speeds were consistent with the damage, nor the mass of the buildings. You want to go around this again, despite it being shown that they collapsed through the path of MOST RESISTANCE?

The report was compromised because the NORAD officials did not tell the truth, and changed their version 3 times. How can you insist on having faith in it, or for that matter, anything that was said given these facts? You asked what did they lie about?
You admit to not knowing this, yet ridicule people who point to the fact that they DID lie?
Good grief, Ollie....

 

[daws101]

he always "misses" the proof despite it being right in the story, and the facts concerning whatever is written that buts serious doubt on the lack of honesty on the 9-11 commission, even if the doubts come from the 9-11 members themselves.
Ollie is a poster child of the level of ignorance and denial that is rampant in america. The picture of someone putting their fingers in their ears, and closing their eyes when it comes to him, comes to mind.

I'll bet he still doesn't believe remote controlled planes are possible, or the 9-11 connection to this technology.
But he sure as hell will believe in internal silent collapses, despite the highly improbable odds of that, and that 3 massive buildings all globally collapsed at near free fall speeds due to jet fuel, and dislodged fire proofing, even though nist offers no proof, of this being possible.

The 9-11 commission was a farce, and the staff members have said as much. Norad officials lied 3 times, and zelekow let it slip by to create the public myth, but gomer pays no attention to that.

3 buildings collapsed at near freefall speeds? Really? You still want to go with that even though it's been proven time and time again that you are wrong?

And yes it has been said that certain offices lied to the 911 commission. And i have no doubt that they did. But what did they lie about? I can promise you that their lies does nothing to prove or even promote in the vaguest way your controlled demo theories.

it proves they lied you nitwit! That the 9-11 report is not entirely accurate, that there is a strong possibility of a cover up!
How you can view this revelation as being inconsequential is beyond words.

And wtc 7 achieved free fall acceleration, so sue me, the fact remains the buildings came down at speeds faster then the damage and temps indicated.
It has not ever been proven that the descent speeds were consistent with the damage, nor the mass of the buildings. You want to go around this again, despite it being shown that they collapsed through the path of most resistance?

The report was compromised because the norad officials did not tell the truth, and changed their version 3 times. How can you insist on having faith in it, or for that matter, anything that was said given these facts? You asked what did they lie about?
You admit to not knowing this, yet ridicule people who point to the fact that they did lie?
Good grief, ollie....

prove it!

 

[SFC Ollie]

He always "misses" the proof despite it being right in the story, and the facts concerning whatever is written that buts serious doubt on the lack of honesty on the 9-11 commission, even if the doubts come from the 9-11 members themselves.
Ollie is a poster child of the level of ignorance and denial that is rampant in America. The picture of someone putting their fingers in their ears, and closing their eyes when it comes to him, comes to mind.

I'll bet he still doesn't believe remote controlled planes are possible, or the 9-11 connection to this technology.
But he sure as hell will believe in internal silent collapses, despite the highly improbable odds of that, and that 3 massive buildings all globally collapsed at near free fall speeds due to jet fuel, and dislodged fire proofing, even though NIST offers NO PROOF, of this being possible.

The 9-11 commission was a farce, and the staff members have said as much. Norad officials lied 3 times, and Zelekow let it slip by to create the public myth, but gomer pays no attention to that.

3 buildings collapsed at near freefall speeds? Really? You still want to go with that even though it's been proven time and time again that you are wrong?

And yes it has been said that certain offices lied to the 911 Commission. And I have no doubt that they did. But what did they lie about? I can promise you that their lies does nothing to prove or even promote in the vaguest way your controlled demo theories.

It proves THEY LIED you nitwit! That the 9-11 report is NOT entirely accurate, that there is a STRONG POSSIBILITY OF A COVER UP!
How you can view this revelation as being inconsequential is beyond words.

And WTC 7 achieved free fall acceleration, so sue me, the fact remains the buildings came down at speeds faster then the damage and temps indicated.
It has not ever been proven that the descent speeds were consistent with the damage, nor the mass of the buildings. You want to go around this again, despite it being shown that they collapsed through the path of MOST RESISTANCE?

The report was compromised because the NORAD officials did not tell the truth, and changed their version 3 times. How can you insist on having faith in it, or for that matter, anything that was said given these facts? You asked what did they lie about?
You admit to not knowing this, yet ridicule people who point to the fact that they DID lie?
Good grief, Ollie....

What did they lie about? What did Norad say that could even remotely back up your version of the attacks?

And it has been proven that both towers fell at speeds way slower than freefall, you can even see this in the films.

And we all know that truthers want us to forget about the collapse of the east penthouse something like 7 seconds before the west penthouse and that was just before the roofline of the north facade. It was the north facade which reached freefall speed for a whole 2 seconds, not the building, just the facade. Maybe you guys don't know what a facade is?