Who's Afraid of Socialism?

[georgephillip]

Maybe the corporate media should cease promoting fake news that is agenda driven. Maybe the right wing cucks like bripat should recognize it for what it is. Maybe he would if he didn't have the same agenda. Maybe the Democrats would stand up to the administration if they didn't also have the same agenda. I could probably go on....

The corporate fake news media is completely on the side of the Maduro regime, dumbass. If it weren't, you would be seeing reports on Venezuela every day. Instead you almost never do.

The corporate fake news media is completely on the side of the Maduro regime, dumbass. If it weren't, you would be seeing reports on Venezuela every day. Instead you almost never do.

Link to any US corporate media supporting Maduro?
Why President Trump is jumping into the Venezuela crisis

They support him by not reporting all the mass suffering, atrocities, corruption, and lawlessness of the regime.

They support him by not reporting all the mass suffering, atrocities, corruption, and lawlessness of the regime.

The US corporate/capitalist press reports virtually nothing regarding the corruption and lawlessness of Venezuela's opposition, and they report exactly nothing about the war crimes of chicken-hawks like John Bolton and Elliot Abrams.

ProgressVideo.TV: Venezuela Coup 2019 – Elliott Abrams, the War Criminal in Charge via Thom Hartmann Program
" Elliott Abrams is a right-wing hawk who was convicted in 1991 for lying to Congress during the Iran-Contra scandal, but he was later pardoned by President George H.W. Bush.

"Abrams defended Guatemalan dictator General Efraín Ríos Montt as he oversaw a campaign of mass murder and torture of indigenous people in Guatemala in the 1980s. Ríos Montt was later convicted of genocide.

"Abrams was also linked to the 2002 coup in Venezuela that attempted to topple Hugo Chávez.

"We look at Abrams’s track record with prize-winning investigative journalist Allan Nairn, who has closely tracked Abrams for over three decades. Nairn is two-time winner of the George Polk Award and a recipient of the Robert F. Kennedy Memorial."

Allan Nairn: Trump’s Venezuela Envoy Elliott Abrams Is a War Criminal Who Has Abetted Genocide | Democracy Now!

What does that have to do with Venezuela in 2019?

What does that have to do with Venezuela in 2019?

Elliot Abrams is just as corrupt today as he was 38 years ago, and his attempt at overthrowing a duly elected president in Venezuela today should bother anyone as much as Abrams cover-up of the El Mozote massacre in 1982.

Trump Appoints Never Trumper Elliott Abrams Envoy to Venezuela

"Needless to say, there are major difference between these cases: Mossadegh, Allende, Chavez and Maduro all lived in radically different times and championed different policies, with varying degrees of liberalism and corruption.

"But the one thing they all had in common is that the U.S. government, and a compliant U.S. media, decided they 'needed to go' and did everything to achieve this end."

Your Complete Guide to the N.Y. Times’ Support of U.S.-Backed Coups in Latin America

"The fundamental arrogance of this assumption, one would think, is what ought to be discussed in the U.S. media—as typified by the Times’ editorial board—but time and again, this assumption is either taken for granted or hand-waved away, and we all move on to how and when we can best overthrow the Bad Regime."

 

[dblack]

Even more important, how do the pricing authorities even determine a price? What is the "value" of a ton of coal? How would they even guess without having market prices to look at?

Can you imagine a market that doesn't distribute goods and services on the basis of ability to pay?

I can imagine an institution that does that. But I'd be hard press to call it a "market".

I can imagine an institution that does that. I'd be hard press to call it a "market".

When the US economy functioned during WWII, need rather than profit drove most transactions; did that arrangement qualify as a "market"?

See, here's where you actually need some kind of citation, and you fail to provide one. While some transactions were taken "off market" and controlled by government, I think you're simply bullshitting when you say "most", or even a significant percentage.

FWIW, the transactions controlled by government would not constitute a market in my view. I have zero interest in fighting over word definitions, but all the equivocation is tiresome.

See, here's where you actually need some kind of citation, and you fail to provide one. While some transactions were taken "off market" and controlled by government, I think you're simply bullshitting when you say "most", or even a significant percentage.

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Both major capitalist wars in the 20th Century required the US to adopt a command economy in order to "win".

Only in very limited circumstances. Certainly not "most transactions". Your claim was false.

Why would you think our current malaise is any different?

We're not at war.

 

[francoHFW]

It

They've only had socialist leadership since Hugo Chavez in 2005 or something. Before that they were USA banana Republic with totally corrupt oligarchs and charge. Chavez cut poverty by 75% and a literacy by 90% and gave them Healthcare. You have no idea what you're talking about of course. Google US sanctions against Venezuela socialists. The GOP should get there corrupt covert garbage out of other countries. The GOP always screws up other countries and our own economy. Of course you know nothing about that, super dupe.

How did he cut poverty if everyone is starving? in 1960 they had the 4th highest GDP per capita in the entire world. So far, the only sanctions I'm aware of is the one Trump just imposed. Obama certainly didn't put any sanctions on them? He loves those fucking commies. You pathetic bleating about how Venezuela has been so abused just doesn't wash. I fail to see any basis for blaming the GOP. Name one thing the GOP has done to damage Venezuela. One thing.

Here's one of your links:

DSA Calls for Ending Sanctions Against Venezuela - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

In 2014, the U.S. Congress, led by Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), passed a sanctions bill that targeted Venezuelan officials by threatening to deny them visas and to seize their assets.
​

That doesn't seem like much a threat to the Venezuelan economy. It might prevent the scumbag bureaucrats from traveling to the US, but that's about it. If they have significant assets in the US, that would indicate to me that they are corrupt. Keep in mind that it only "threatened" to seize their assets. As far as I know, no assets have been seized.

No they had the 4th economy in 1950, what most countries were in ruins.

They've only had socialist leadership since Hugo Chavez in 2005 or something. Before that they were USA banana Republic with totally corrupt oligarchs and charge. Chavez cut poverty by 75% and a literacy by 90% and gave them Healthcare. You have no idea what you're talking about of course. Google US sanctions against Venezuela socialists. The GOP should get there corrupt covert garbage out of other countries. The GOP always screws up other countries and our own economy. Of course you know nothing about that, super dupe.

How did he cut poverty if everyone is starving? in 1960 they had the 4th highest GDP per capita in the entire world. So far, the only sanctions I'm aware of is the one Trump just imposed. Obama certainly didn't put any sanctions on them? He loves those fucking commies. You pathetic bleating about how Venezuela has been so abused just doesn't wash. I fail to see any basis for blaming the GOP. Name one thing the GOP has done to damage Venezuela. One thing.

Here's one of your links:

DSA Calls for Ending Sanctions Against Venezuela - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

In 2014, the U.S. Congress, led by Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), passed a sanctions bill that targeted Venezuelan officials by threatening to deny them visas and to seize their assets.
​

That doesn't seem like much a threat to the Venezuelan economy. It might prevent the scumbag bureaucrats from traveling to the US, but that's about it. If they have significant assets in the US, that would indicate to me that they are corrupt. Keep in mind that it only "threatened" to seize their assets. As far as I know, no assets have been seized.

www.crs.gov | 7-5700
Updated November 21, 2018
Venezuela: Overview of U.S. Sanctions
For more than a decade, the United States has employed
sanctions as a policy tool in response to activities of the
Venezuelan government or Venezuelan individuals. These
have included sanctions, including targeted sanctions
against almost 90 individuals, related to terrorism, drug
trafficking, trafficking in persons, antidemocratic actions,
human rights violations, and corruption.
Terrorism-Related Sanctions
Since 2006, U.S. officials have expressed concerns about
Venezuela’s lack of cooperation on anti-terrorism efforts.
Since then, the Secretary of State has made an annual
determination that Venezuela is not “cooperating fully with
United States anti-terrorism efforts” pursuant to Section
40A of the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2781). The
most recent determination was made in May 2018. As a
result, the United States has prohibited all U.S. commercial
arms sales and retransfers to Venezuela since 2006.
In 2008, the Treasury Department imposed sanctions (asset
freezing and prohibitions on transactions) on two
individuals and two travel agencies in Venezuela for
providing financial support to the radical Lebanon-based
Islamic Shiite group Hezbollah. The action was taken
pursuant to Executive Order (E.O.) 13224, aimed at
impeding terrorist funding.
Drug Trafficking-Related Sanctions
U.S. concerns about the lack of Venezuelan cooperation on
counternarcotics efforts date back to 2005, when Venezuela
suspended cooperation with the U.S. Drug Enforcement
Administration. Since 2005, the President has made an
annual determination, pursuant to procedures set forth in
the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, FY2003 (P.L.
107-228, §706; 22 U.S.C. 2291j), that Venezuela has failed
demonstrably to adhere to its obligations under
international narcotics agreements. President Trump made
the most recent determination for FY2019 in September
2018, when he also waived foreign assistance restrictions
for programs to support the promotion of democracy in
Venezuela.
The Treasury Department has imposed economic sanctions
on at least 22 individuals with connections to Venezuela
and 27 companies by designating them as Specially
Designated Narcotics Traffickers pursuant to the Foreign
Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act (Kingpin Act; P.L. 106-
120, Title VIII; 21 U.S.C. 1901 et seq.).
Designated individuals include several current or former
Venezuelan officials: in 2008, General Hugo Carvajal
(former military intelligence head), General Henry Rangel
Silva (former defense minister and governor of Trujillo
State), and Ramón Rodríguez Chacín (former interior
minister and former governor of Guárico); in 2011, Freddy
Alirio Bernal Rosales and Amilicar Jesus Figueroa Salazar
(United Socialist Party of Venezuela, or PSUV, politicians),
Major General Cliver Antonio Alcalá Cordones, and
Ramon Isidro Madriz Moreno (a Venezuelan intelligence
officer); in 2017, then-Vice President Tareck el Aissami;
and in May 2018, Pedro Luis Martin (a former senior
intelligence official) and two of his associates. Others
designated include drug trafficker Walid Makled, three dual
Lebanese-Venezuelan citizens allegedly involved in a drug
money-laundering network, and several Colombian drug
traffickers with activity in Venezuela.
Trafficking in Persons Sanctions
Since 2014, Venezuela has been on the State Department’s
Tier 3 list in its annual Trafficking in Persons Report. Tier 3
countries are those whose governments do not fully comply
with the minimum standards of the Trafficking Victims
Protection Act (P.L. 106-386, Division A, 22 U.S.C. 7101
et seq.) and are not making significant efforts to do so. Tier
3 countries are subject to a variety of U.S. aid restrictions,
although the President may waive prohibitions for national
interest reasons. In September 2017, President Trump
waived sanctions for health and democracy-related
assistance to Venezuela.
Targeted Sanctions Related to Antidemocratic
Actions, Human Rights Violations, and Corruption
In response to increasing repression in Venezuela, Congress
enacted the Venezuela Defense of Human Rights and Civil
Society Act of 2014 (P.L. 113-278; 50 U.S.C. 1701 note) in
December 2014. Among its provisions, the law requires the
President to impose sanctions (asset blocking and visa
restrictions) against those whom the President determines
are responsible for significant acts of violence or serious
human rights abuses associated with February 2014 protests
or, more broadly, against anyone who has directed or
ordered the arrest or prosecution of a person primarily
because of the person’s legitimate exercise of freedom of
expression or assembly. In July 2016, Congress extended
the 2014 act through 2019 in P.L. 114-194.
In March 2015, President Obama issued E.O. 13692 to
implement P.L. 113-278, and Treasury Department
regulations were issued in July 2015 (31 C.F.R. Part 591).
The E.O. targets (for asset blocking and visa restrictions)
those involved in actions or policies undermining
democratic processes or institutions; those involved in acts
of violence or conduct constituting a serious human rights
abuse; those taking actions that prohibit, limit, or penalize
the exercise of freedom of expression or peaceful assembly;
public corruption by senior Venezuelan officials; and any
person determined to be a current or former leader of any
entity engaged in any activity described above or a current
or former official of the government of Venezuela.


and they just made it impossible for Venezuela to sell oil to the United States, 40% of their market, and with many other countries... Screw Venezuelan oligarchs and American oligarchs... All scumbags.

Blocking visas for selected scumbag bureaucrats, restricting arms sales and "blocking" the assets of selected officials.

<YAWN!>

And today banning there oil in the United States and using American banking systems... We've absolutely screwed them, dumbass.

Their oil isn't banned in the US, dumbass, and only selected individuals in the government are banned from borrowing money.

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

 

[francoHFW]

Maybe the corporate media should cease promoting fake news that is agenda driven. Maybe the right wing cucks like bripat should recognize it for what it is. Maybe he would if he didn't have the same agenda. Maybe the Democrats would stand up to the administration if they didn't also have the same agenda. I could probably go on....

The corporate fake news media is completely on the side of the Maduro regime, dumbass. If it weren't, you would be seeing reports on Venezuela every day. Instead you almost never do.

The corporate fake news media is completely on the side of the Maduro regime, dumbass. If it weren't, you would be seeing reports on Venezuela every day. Instead you almost never do.

Link to any US corporate media supporting Maduro?
Why President Trump is jumping into the Venezuela crisis

They support him by not reporting all the mass suffering, atrocities, corruption, and lawlessness of the regime.

They support him by not reporting all the mass suffering, atrocities, corruption, and lawlessness of the regime.

The US corporate/capitalist press reports virtually nothing regarding the corruption and lawlessness of Venezuela's opposition, and they report exactly nothing about the war crimes of chicken-hawks like John Bolton and Elliot Abrams.

ProgressVideo.TV: Venezuela Coup 2019 – Elliott Abrams, the War Criminal in Charge via Thom Hartmann Program
" Elliott Abrams is a right-wing hawk who was convicted in 1991 for lying to Congress during the Iran-Contra scandal, but he was later pardoned by President George H.W. Bush.

"Abrams defended Guatemalan dictator General Efraín Ríos Montt as he oversaw a campaign of mass murder and torture of indigenous people in Guatemala in the 1980s. Ríos Montt was later convicted of genocide.

"Abrams was also linked to the 2002 coup in Venezuela that attempted to topple Hugo Chávez.

"We look at Abrams’s track record with prize-winning investigative journalist Allan Nairn, who has closely tracked Abrams for over three decades. Nairn is two-time winner of the George Polk Award and a recipient of the Robert F. Kennedy Memorial."

Allan Nairn: Trump’s Venezuela Envoy Elliott Abrams Is a War Criminal Who Has Abetted Genocide | Democracy Now!

What does that have to do with Venezuela in 2019?

Is Trump special envoy to Venezuela, you incredible dumbass... Idiots dupes of the scumbag GOP are not going to get a warm welcome in the afterlife...

 

[georgephillip]

It

How did he cut poverty if everyone is starving? in 1960 they had the 4th highest GDP per capita in the entire world. So far, the only sanctions I'm aware of is the one Trump just imposed. Obama certainly didn't put any sanctions on them? He loves those fucking commies. You pathetic bleating about how Venezuela has been so abused just doesn't wash. I fail to see any basis for blaming the GOP. Name one thing the GOP has done to damage Venezuela. One thing.

Here's one of your links:

DSA Calls for Ending Sanctions Against Venezuela - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

In 2014, the U.S. Congress, led by Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), passed a sanctions bill that targeted Venezuelan officials by threatening to deny them visas and to seize their assets.
​

That doesn't seem like much a threat to the Venezuelan economy. It might prevent the scumbag bureaucrats from traveling to the US, but that's about it. If they have significant assets in the US, that would indicate to me that they are corrupt. Keep in mind that it only "threatened" to seize their assets. As far as I know, no assets have been seized.

No they had the 4th economy in 1950, what most countries were in ruins.

How did he cut poverty if everyone is starving? in 1960 they had the 4th highest GDP per capita in the entire world. So far, the only sanctions I'm aware of is the one Trump just imposed. Obama certainly didn't put any sanctions on them? He loves those fucking commies. You pathetic bleating about how Venezuela has been so abused just doesn't wash. I fail to see any basis for blaming the GOP. Name one thing the GOP has done to damage Venezuela. One thing.

Here's one of your links:

DSA Calls for Ending Sanctions Against Venezuela - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

In 2014, the U.S. Congress, led by Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), passed a sanctions bill that targeted Venezuelan officials by threatening to deny them visas and to seize their assets.
​

That doesn't seem like much a threat to the Venezuelan economy. It might prevent the scumbag bureaucrats from traveling to the US, but that's about it. If they have significant assets in the US, that would indicate to me that they are corrupt. Keep in mind that it only "threatened" to seize their assets. As far as I know, no assets have been seized.

www.crs.gov | 7-5700
Updated November 21, 2018
Venezuela: Overview of U.S. Sanctions
For more than a decade, the United States has employed
sanctions as a policy tool in response to activities of the
Venezuelan government or Venezuelan individuals. These
have included sanctions, including targeted sanctions
against almost 90 individuals, related to terrorism, drug
trafficking, trafficking in persons, antidemocratic actions,
human rights violations, and corruption.
Terrorism-Related Sanctions
Since 2006, U.S. officials have expressed concerns about
Venezuela’s lack of cooperation on anti-terrorism efforts.
Since then, the Secretary of State has made an annual
determination that Venezuela is not “cooperating fully with
United States anti-terrorism efforts” pursuant to Section
40A of the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2781). The
most recent determination was made in May 2018. As a
result, the United States has prohibited all U.S. commercial
arms sales and retransfers to Venezuela since 2006.
In 2008, the Treasury Department imposed sanctions (asset
freezing and prohibitions on transactions) on two
individuals and two travel agencies in Venezuela for
providing financial support to the radical Lebanon-based
Islamic Shiite group Hezbollah. The action was taken
pursuant to Executive Order (E.O.) 13224, aimed at
impeding terrorist funding.
Drug Trafficking-Related Sanctions
U.S. concerns about the lack of Venezuelan cooperation on
counternarcotics efforts date back to 2005, when Venezuela
suspended cooperation with the U.S. Drug Enforcement
Administration. Since 2005, the President has made an
annual determination, pursuant to procedures set forth in
the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, FY2003 (P.L.
107-228, §706; 22 U.S.C. 2291j), that Venezuela has failed
demonstrably to adhere to its obligations under
international narcotics agreements. President Trump made
the most recent determination for FY2019 in September
2018, when he also waived foreign assistance restrictions
for programs to support the promotion of democracy in
Venezuela.
The Treasury Department has imposed economic sanctions
on at least 22 individuals with connections to Venezuela
and 27 companies by designating them as Specially
Designated Narcotics Traffickers pursuant to the Foreign
Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act (Kingpin Act; P.L. 106-
120, Title VIII; 21 U.S.C. 1901 et seq.).
Designated individuals include several current or former
Venezuelan officials: in 2008, General Hugo Carvajal
(former military intelligence head), General Henry Rangel
Silva (former defense minister and governor of Trujillo
State), and Ramón Rodríguez Chacín (former interior
minister and former governor of Guárico); in 2011, Freddy
Alirio Bernal Rosales and Amilicar Jesus Figueroa Salazar
(United Socialist Party of Venezuela, or PSUV, politicians),
Major General Cliver Antonio Alcalá Cordones, and
Ramon Isidro Madriz Moreno (a Venezuelan intelligence
officer); in 2017, then-Vice President Tareck el Aissami;
and in May 2018, Pedro Luis Martin (a former senior
intelligence official) and two of his associates. Others
designated include drug trafficker Walid Makled, three dual
Lebanese-Venezuelan citizens allegedly involved in a drug
money-laundering network, and several Colombian drug
traffickers with activity in Venezuela.
Trafficking in Persons Sanctions
Since 2014, Venezuela has been on the State Department’s
Tier 3 list in its annual Trafficking in Persons Report. Tier 3
countries are those whose governments do not fully comply
with the minimum standards of the Trafficking Victims
Protection Act (P.L. 106-386, Division A, 22 U.S.C. 7101
et seq.) and are not making significant efforts to do so. Tier
3 countries are subject to a variety of U.S. aid restrictions,
although the President may waive prohibitions for national
interest reasons. In September 2017, President Trump
waived sanctions for health and democracy-related
assistance to Venezuela.
Targeted Sanctions Related to Antidemocratic
Actions, Human Rights Violations, and Corruption
In response to increasing repression in Venezuela, Congress
enacted the Venezuela Defense of Human Rights and Civil
Society Act of 2014 (P.L. 113-278; 50 U.S.C. 1701 note) in
December 2014. Among its provisions, the law requires the
President to impose sanctions (asset blocking and visa
restrictions) against those whom the President determines
are responsible for significant acts of violence or serious
human rights abuses associated with February 2014 protests
or, more broadly, against anyone who has directed or
ordered the arrest or prosecution of a person primarily
because of the person’s legitimate exercise of freedom of
expression or assembly. In July 2016, Congress extended
the 2014 act through 2019 in P.L. 114-194.
In March 2015, President Obama issued E.O. 13692 to
implement P.L. 113-278, and Treasury Department
regulations were issued in July 2015 (31 C.F.R. Part 591).
The E.O. targets (for asset blocking and visa restrictions)
those involved in actions or policies undermining
democratic processes or institutions; those involved in acts
of violence or conduct constituting a serious human rights
abuse; those taking actions that prohibit, limit, or penalize
the exercise of freedom of expression or peaceful assembly;
public corruption by senior Venezuelan officials; and any
person determined to be a current or former leader of any
entity engaged in any activity described above or a current
or former official of the government of Venezuela.


and they just made it impossible for Venezuela to sell oil to the United States, 40% of their market, and with many other countries... Screw Venezuelan oligarchs and American oligarchs... All scumbags.

Blocking visas for selected scumbag bureaucrats, restricting arms sales and "blocking" the assets of selected officials.

<YAWN!>

And today banning there oil in the United States and using American banking systems... We've absolutely screwed them, dumbass.

Their oil isn't banned in the US, dumbass, and only selected individuals in the government are banned from borrowing money.

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

Your link:

"National Security Adviser John Bolton told reporters at the White House that Trump’s action would block $7 billion in Venezuelan assets and reduce the country’s exports by $11 billion over the next year, though Maduro is sure to attempt to sell PDVSA’s crude elsewhere. Bolton urged Venezuela’s military to accept a peaceful transfer of power to Guaido."

General shreds Trump's Iraqi oil plan: 'Not American way' to steal the land and 'rape its women'

I guess we should have seen this coming?

How long before US gas prices rise as a result of this bit of blatant thievery?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

ItNo they had the 4th economy in 1950, what most countries were in ruins.
www.crs.gov | 7-5700
Updated November 21, 2018
Venezuela: Overview of U.S. Sanctions
For more than a decade, the United States has employed
sanctions as a policy tool in response to activities of the
Venezuelan government or Venezuelan individuals. These
have included sanctions, including targeted sanctions
against almost 90 individuals, related to terrorism, drug
trafficking, trafficking in persons, antidemocratic actions,
human rights violations, and corruption.
Terrorism-Related Sanctions
Since 2006, U.S. officials have expressed concerns about
Venezuela’s lack of cooperation on anti-terrorism efforts.
Since then, the Secretary of State has made an annual
determination that Venezuela is not “cooperating fully with
United States anti-terrorism efforts” pursuant to Section
40A of the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2781). The
most recent determination was made in May 2018. As a
result, the United States has prohibited all U.S. commercial
arms sales and retransfers to Venezuela since 2006.
In 2008, the Treasury Department imposed sanctions (asset
freezing and prohibitions on transactions) on two
individuals and two travel agencies in Venezuela for
providing financial support to the radical Lebanon-based
Islamic Shiite group Hezbollah. The action was taken
pursuant to Executive Order (E.O.) 13224, aimed at
impeding terrorist funding.
Drug Trafficking-Related Sanctions
U.S. concerns about the lack of Venezuelan cooperation on
counternarcotics efforts date back to 2005, when Venezuela
suspended cooperation with the U.S. Drug Enforcement
Administration. Since 2005, the President has made an
annual determination, pursuant to procedures set forth in
the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, FY2003 (P.L.
107-228, §706; 22 U.S.C. 2291j), that Venezuela has failed
demonstrably to adhere to its obligations under
international narcotics agreements. President Trump made
the most recent determination for FY2019 in September
2018, when he also waived foreign assistance restrictions
for programs to support the promotion of democracy in
Venezuela.
The Treasury Department has imposed economic sanctions
on at least 22 individuals with connections to Venezuela
and 27 companies by designating them as Specially
Designated Narcotics Traffickers pursuant to the Foreign
Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act (Kingpin Act; P.L. 106-
120, Title VIII; 21 U.S.C. 1901 et seq.).
Designated individuals include several current or former
Venezuelan officials: in 2008, General Hugo Carvajal
(former military intelligence head), General Henry Rangel
Silva (former defense minister and governor of Trujillo
State), and Ramón Rodríguez Chacín (former interior
minister and former governor of Guárico); in 2011, Freddy
Alirio Bernal Rosales and Amilicar Jesus Figueroa Salazar
(United Socialist Party of Venezuela, or PSUV, politicians),
Major General Cliver Antonio Alcalá Cordones, and
Ramon Isidro Madriz Moreno (a Venezuelan intelligence
officer); in 2017, then-Vice President Tareck el Aissami;
and in May 2018, Pedro Luis Martin (a former senior
intelligence official) and two of his associates. Others
designated include drug trafficker Walid Makled, three dual
Lebanese-Venezuelan citizens allegedly involved in a drug
money-laundering network, and several Colombian drug
traffickers with activity in Venezuela.
Trafficking in Persons Sanctions
Since 2014, Venezuela has been on the State Department’s
Tier 3 list in its annual Trafficking in Persons Report. Tier 3
countries are those whose governments do not fully comply
with the minimum standards of the Trafficking Victims
Protection Act (P.L. 106-386, Division A, 22 U.S.C. 7101
et seq.) and are not making significant efforts to do so. Tier
3 countries are subject to a variety of U.S. aid restrictions,
although the President may waive prohibitions for national
interest reasons. In September 2017, President Trump
waived sanctions for health and democracy-related
assistance to Venezuela.
Targeted Sanctions Related to Antidemocratic
Actions, Human Rights Violations, and Corruption
In response to increasing repression in Venezuela, Congress
enacted the Venezuela Defense of Human Rights and Civil
Society Act of 2014 (P.L. 113-278; 50 U.S.C. 1701 note) in
December 2014. Among its provisions, the law requires the
President to impose sanctions (asset blocking and visa
restrictions) against those whom the President determines
are responsible for significant acts of violence or serious
human rights abuses associated with February 2014 protests
or, more broadly, against anyone who has directed or
ordered the arrest or prosecution of a person primarily
because of the person’s legitimate exercise of freedom of
expression or assembly. In July 2016, Congress extended
the 2014 act through 2019 in P.L. 114-194.
In March 2015, President Obama issued E.O. 13692 to
implement P.L. 113-278, and Treasury Department
regulations were issued in July 2015 (31 C.F.R. Part 591).
The E.O. targets (for asset blocking and visa restrictions)
those involved in actions or policies undermining
democratic processes or institutions; those involved in acts
of violence or conduct constituting a serious human rights
abuse; those taking actions that prohibit, limit, or penalize
the exercise of freedom of expression or peaceful assembly;
public corruption by senior Venezuelan officials; and any
person determined to be a current or former leader of any
entity engaged in any activity described above or a current
or former official of the government of Venezuela.


and they just made it impossible for Venezuela to sell oil to the United States, 40% of their market, and with many other countries... Screw Venezuelan oligarchs and American oligarchs... All scumbags.

Blocking visas for selected scumbag bureaucrats, restricting arms sales and "blocking" the assets of selected officials.

<YAWN!>

And today banning there oil in the United States and using American banking systems... We've absolutely screwed them, dumbass.

Their oil isn't banned in the US, dumbass, and only selected individuals in the government are banned from borrowing money.

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

Your link:

"National Security Adviser John Bolton told reporters at the White House that Trump’s action would block $7 billion in Venezuelan assets and reduce the country’s exports by $11 billion over the next year, though Maduro is sure to attempt to sell PDVSA’s crude elsewhere. Bolton urged Venezuela’s military to accept a peaceful transfer of power to Guaido."

General shreds Trump's Iraqi oil plan: 'Not American way' to steal the land and 'rape its women'

I guess we should have seen this coming?

How long before US gas prices rise as a result of this bit of blatant thievery?

No one is going to miss the million barrels a day of low quality oil they're barely able to export recently.

 

[georgephillip]

Blocking visas for selected scumbag bureaucrats, restricting arms sales and "blocking" the assets of selected officials.

<YAWN!>

And today banning there oil in the United States and using American banking systems... We've absolutely screwed them, dumbass.

Their oil isn't banned in the US, dumbass, and only selected individuals in the government are banned from borrowing money.

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

Your link:

"National Security Adviser John Bolton told reporters at the White House that Trump’s action would block $7 billion in Venezuelan assets and reduce the country’s exports by $11 billion over the next year, though Maduro is sure to attempt to sell PDVSA’s crude elsewhere. Bolton urged Venezuela’s military to accept a peaceful transfer of power to Guaido."

General shreds Trump's Iraqi oil plan: 'Not American way' to steal the land and 'rape its women'

I guess we should have seen this coming?

How long before US gas prices rise as a result of this bit of blatant thievery?

No one is going to miss the million barrels a day of low quality oil they're barely able to export recently.

Why don't you mention that to your hero?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And today banning there oil in the United States and using American banking systems... We've absolutely screwed them, dumbass.

Their oil isn't banned in the US, dumbass, and only selected individuals in the government are banned from borrowing money.

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

Your link:

"National Security Adviser John Bolton told reporters at the White House that Trump’s action would block $7 billion in Venezuelan assets and reduce the country’s exports by $11 billion over the next year, though Maduro is sure to attempt to sell PDVSA’s crude elsewhere. Bolton urged Venezuela’s military to accept a peaceful transfer of power to Guaido."

General shreds Trump's Iraqi oil plan: 'Not American way' to steal the land and 'rape its women'

I guess we should have seen this coming?

How long before US gas prices rise as a result of this bit of blatant thievery?

No one is going to miss the million barrels a day of low quality oil they're barely able to export recently.

Why don't you mention that to your hero?

Did Maduro eat a bullet yet?

 

[georgephillip]

Their oil isn't banned in the US, dumbass, and only selected individuals in the government are banned from borrowing money.

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

Your link:

"National Security Adviser John Bolton told reporters at the White House that Trump’s action would block $7 billion in Venezuelan assets and reduce the country’s exports by $11 billion over the next year, though Maduro is sure to attempt to sell PDVSA’s crude elsewhere. Bolton urged Venezuela’s military to accept a peaceful transfer of power to Guaido."

General shreds Trump's Iraqi oil plan: 'Not American way' to steal the land and 'rape its women'

I guess we should have seen this coming?

How long before US gas prices rise as a result of this bit of blatant thievery?

No one is going to miss the million barrels a day of low quality oil they're barely able to export recently.

Why don't you mention that to your hero?

Did Maduro eat a bullet yet?

Long before Bolton does.

MAGA, yet?

 

[Rustic]

 

[Rustic]

It

How did he cut poverty if everyone is starving? in 1960 they had the 4th highest GDP per capita in the entire world. So far, the only sanctions I'm aware of is the one Trump just imposed. Obama certainly didn't put any sanctions on them? He loves those fucking commies. You pathetic bleating about how Venezuela has been so abused just doesn't wash. I fail to see any basis for blaming the GOP. Name one thing the GOP has done to damage Venezuela. One thing.

Here's one of your links:

DSA Calls for Ending Sanctions Against Venezuela - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

In 2014, the U.S. Congress, led by Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), passed a sanctions bill that targeted Venezuelan officials by threatening to deny them visas and to seize their assets.
​

That doesn't seem like much a threat to the Venezuelan economy. It might prevent the scumbag bureaucrats from traveling to the US, but that's about it. If they have significant assets in the US, that would indicate to me that they are corrupt. Keep in mind that it only "threatened" to seize their assets. As far as I know, no assets have been seized.

No they had the 4th economy in 1950, what most countries were in ruins.

How did he cut poverty if everyone is starving? in 1960 they had the 4th highest GDP per capita in the entire world. So far, the only sanctions I'm aware of is the one Trump just imposed. Obama certainly didn't put any sanctions on them? He loves those fucking commies. You pathetic bleating about how Venezuela has been so abused just doesn't wash. I fail to see any basis for blaming the GOP. Name one thing the GOP has done to damage Venezuela. One thing.

Here's one of your links:

DSA Calls for Ending Sanctions Against Venezuela - Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

In 2014, the U.S. Congress, led by Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), passed a sanctions bill that targeted Venezuelan officials by threatening to deny them visas and to seize their assets.
​

That doesn't seem like much a threat to the Venezuelan economy. It might prevent the scumbag bureaucrats from traveling to the US, but that's about it. If they have significant assets in the US, that would indicate to me that they are corrupt. Keep in mind that it only "threatened" to seize their assets. As far as I know, no assets have been seized.

www.crs.gov | 7-5700
Updated November 21, 2018
Venezuela: Overview of U.S. Sanctions
For more than a decade, the United States has employed
sanctions as a policy tool in response to activities of the
Venezuelan government or Venezuelan individuals. These
have included sanctions, including targeted sanctions
against almost 90 individuals, related to terrorism, drug
trafficking, trafficking in persons, antidemocratic actions,
human rights violations, and corruption.
Terrorism-Related Sanctions
Since 2006, U.S. officials have expressed concerns about
Venezuela’s lack of cooperation on anti-terrorism efforts.
Since then, the Secretary of State has made an annual
determination that Venezuela is not “cooperating fully with
United States anti-terrorism efforts” pursuant to Section
40A of the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2781). The
most recent determination was made in May 2018. As a
result, the United States has prohibited all U.S. commercial
arms sales and retransfers to Venezuela since 2006.
In 2008, the Treasury Department imposed sanctions (asset
freezing and prohibitions on transactions) on two
individuals and two travel agencies in Venezuela for
providing financial support to the radical Lebanon-based
Islamic Shiite group Hezbollah. The action was taken
pursuant to Executive Order (E.O.) 13224, aimed at
impeding terrorist funding.
Drug Trafficking-Related Sanctions
U.S. concerns about the lack of Venezuelan cooperation on
counternarcotics efforts date back to 2005, when Venezuela
suspended cooperation with the U.S. Drug Enforcement
Administration. Since 2005, the President has made an
annual determination, pursuant to procedures set forth in
the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, FY2003 (P.L.
107-228, §706; 22 U.S.C. 2291j), that Venezuela has failed
demonstrably to adhere to its obligations under
international narcotics agreements. President Trump made
the most recent determination for FY2019 in September
2018, when he also waived foreign assistance restrictions
for programs to support the promotion of democracy in
Venezuela.
The Treasury Department has imposed economic sanctions
on at least 22 individuals with connections to Venezuela
and 27 companies by designating them as Specially
Designated Narcotics Traffickers pursuant to the Foreign
Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act (Kingpin Act; P.L. 106-
120, Title VIII; 21 U.S.C. 1901 et seq.).
Designated individuals include several current or former
Venezuelan officials: in 2008, General Hugo Carvajal
(former military intelligence head), General Henry Rangel
Silva (former defense minister and governor of Trujillo
State), and Ramón Rodríguez Chacín (former interior
minister and former governor of Guárico); in 2011, Freddy
Alirio Bernal Rosales and Amilicar Jesus Figueroa Salazar
(United Socialist Party of Venezuela, or PSUV, politicians),
Major General Cliver Antonio Alcalá Cordones, and
Ramon Isidro Madriz Moreno (a Venezuelan intelligence
officer); in 2017, then-Vice President Tareck el Aissami;
and in May 2018, Pedro Luis Martin (a former senior
intelligence official) and two of his associates. Others
designated include drug trafficker Walid Makled, three dual
Lebanese-Venezuelan citizens allegedly involved in a drug
money-laundering network, and several Colombian drug
traffickers with activity in Venezuela.
Trafficking in Persons Sanctions
Since 2014, Venezuela has been on the State Department’s
Tier 3 list in its annual Trafficking in Persons Report. Tier 3
countries are those whose governments do not fully comply
with the minimum standards of the Trafficking Victims
Protection Act (P.L. 106-386, Division A, 22 U.S.C. 7101
et seq.) and are not making significant efforts to do so. Tier
3 countries are subject to a variety of U.S. aid restrictions,
although the President may waive prohibitions for national
interest reasons. In September 2017, President Trump
waived sanctions for health and democracy-related
assistance to Venezuela.
Targeted Sanctions Related to Antidemocratic
Actions, Human Rights Violations, and Corruption
In response to increasing repression in Venezuela, Congress
enacted the Venezuela Defense of Human Rights and Civil
Society Act of 2014 (P.L. 113-278; 50 U.S.C. 1701 note) in
December 2014. Among its provisions, the law requires the
President to impose sanctions (asset blocking and visa
restrictions) against those whom the President determines
are responsible for significant acts of violence or serious
human rights abuses associated with February 2014 protests
or, more broadly, against anyone who has directed or
ordered the arrest or prosecution of a person primarily
because of the person’s legitimate exercise of freedom of
expression or assembly. In July 2016, Congress extended
the 2014 act through 2019 in P.L. 114-194.
In March 2015, President Obama issued E.O. 13692 to
implement P.L. 113-278, and Treasury Department
regulations were issued in July 2015 (31 C.F.R. Part 591).
The E.O. targets (for asset blocking and visa restrictions)
those involved in actions or policies undermining
democratic processes or institutions; those involved in acts
of violence or conduct constituting a serious human rights
abuse; those taking actions that prohibit, limit, or penalize
the exercise of freedom of expression or peaceful assembly;
public corruption by senior Venezuelan officials; and any
person determined to be a current or former leader of any
entity engaged in any activity described above or a current
or former official of the government of Venezuela.


and they just made it impossible for Venezuela to sell oil to the United States, 40% of their market, and with many other countries... Screw Venezuelan oligarchs and American oligarchs... All scumbags.

Blocking visas for selected scumbag bureaucrats, restricting arms sales and "blocking" the assets of selected officials.

<YAWN!>

And today banning there oil in the United States and using American banking systems... We've absolutely screwed them, dumbass.

Their oil isn't banned in the US, dumbass, and only selected individuals in the government are banned from borrowing money.

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

You are a brainwashed functional ignoramus moron, know nothing about what is going on, and a Dupe of the scumbag GOP.change the channel sometime and find out what is going on please. Idiot.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw0RdDHIb85lNZ8Hcg6kZoGI&ampcf=1

Your link:

"National Security Adviser John Bolton told reporters at the White House that Trump’s action would block $7 billion in Venezuelan assets and reduce the country’s exports by $11 billion over the next year, though Maduro is sure to attempt to sell PDVSA’s crude elsewhere. Bolton urged Venezuela’s military to accept a peaceful transfer of power to Guaido."

General shreds Trump's Iraqi oil plan: 'Not American way' to steal the land and 'rape its women'

I guess we should have seen this coming?

How long before US gas prices rise as a result of this bit of blatant thievery?

No one is going to miss the million barrels a day of low quality oil they're barely able to export recently.

Why don't you mention that to your hero?

Did Maduro eat a bullet yet?

Long before Bolton does.

MAGA, yet?

I agree, Maduro will eat a bullet long before Bolton does.
Perhaps in the next few days...….

 

[georgephillip]

Your link:

"National Security Adviser John Bolton told reporters at the White House that Trump’s action would block $7 billion in Venezuelan assets and reduce the country’s exports by $11 billion over the next year, though Maduro is sure to attempt to sell PDVSA’s crude elsewhere. Bolton urged Venezuela’s military to accept a peaceful transfer of power to Guaido."

General shreds Trump's Iraqi oil plan: 'Not American way' to steal the land and 'rape its women'

I guess we should have seen this coming?

How long before US gas prices rise as a result of this bit of blatant thievery?

No one is going to miss the million barrels a day of low quality oil they're barely able to export recently.

Why don't you mention that to your hero?

Did Maduro eat a bullet yet?

Long before Bolton does.

MAGA, yet?

I agree, Maduro will eat a bullet long before Bolton does.
Perhaps in the next few days...….

I agree, Maduro will eat a bullet long before Bolton does.
Perhaps in the next few days...….

A golden bullet?

Juan Guaido Archives - Guido Fawkes

Is there anything capitalists won't kill for?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No one is going to miss the million barrels a day of low quality oil they're barely able to export recently.

Why don't you mention that to your hero?

Did Maduro eat a bullet yet?

Long before Bolton does.

MAGA, yet?

I agree, Maduro will eat a bullet long before Bolton does.
Perhaps in the next few days...….

I agree, Maduro will eat a bullet long before Bolton does.
Perhaps in the next few days...….

A golden bullet?

Juan Guaido Archives - Guido Fawkes

Is there anything capitalists won't kill for?

Nah, Maduro's will be a plain-vanilla, lead flavored bullet.

 

[georgephillip]

"Who Needs Elections? Ask the US About the Government Your Country Should Have..."

Who Needs Elections? Ask the US About the Government Your Country Should Have

"An unknown Juan Guaidó of the Venezuelan opposition party Voluntad Popular appointed himself interim president of Venezuela in front of a multitude without fulfilling a single requirement of the democratic process.

"Process that may involve registered political parties and a political campaign; and it should definitely have a free and secret ballot with all constitutional guarantees approved by a duly established national electoral institution, leading to an election and the public inauguration of the winning candidate..."

"Nancy Pelosi is second in line to the US presidential line of succession, after Vice President Mike Pence. (25th Amendment of Constitution and 3 USC 19, a section of the U.S. Code, established as part of the Presidential Succession Act of 1947).”

"Then Chossudovsky concludes, 'Trump’s endorsement of Venezuela’s speaker of the National Assembly Juan Guaidó is tantamount to stating that Nancy Pelosi could legitimately from one day to the next replace Trump as interim president of the US.

"'A pretty grim prospect for the Donald.'"