Whoopsies!NASA only 38% sure that 2014 was the hottest year

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You can't make this shit up! :lol: Why on earth anyone believes these bozos is beyond me.

Once one realizes that scientists are in the back pocket of politicians who want your hard earned cash "to save the planet" surely you see the game they're playing. Hell's bells politicians can't even fix potholes let alone Mother Earth. And the weathermen can't even get a 5 day forecast right and I'm supposed to believe a forecast of 50 years?


Nasa climate scientists: We said 2014 was the warmest year on record... but we're only 38% sure we were right
  • Nasa’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies claimed its analysis of world temperatures showed ‘2014 was the warmest year on record’
  • But it emerged that GISS’s analysis is subject to a margin of error
  • Nasa admits this means it is far from certain that 2014 set a record at all

Nasa climate scientists We said 2014 was the warmest but we re only 38 sure Daily Mail Online
 
That and the fact that the claim is based on measurements which are inside the margin of error (which means they are meaning less) should give rise to the deceptive practices of NOAA, NASA and our government in general.

IF you simply remove the bias applied in their adjustments we were 35 out of 53 years in the record,
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18 years 4 Months of zero trend and cooling since 2002. (We have crossed over the top of the sign wave (top of cycle). Cooling is now the game that the earth is playing)
 
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YearsTemp. anomaly
(°C anomaly (°F anomaly) from 1951–1980 mean)
1880–1889−0.274 °C (−0.493 °F)
1890–1899−0.254 °C (−0.457 °F)
1900–1909−0.259 °C (−0.466 °F)
1910–1919−0.276 °C (−0.497 °F)
1920–1929−0.175 °C (−0.315 °F)
1930–1939−0.043 °C (−0.0774 °F)
1940–19490.-035 °C (0.0630 °F)
1950–1959−0.02 °C (−0.0360 °F)
1960–1969−0.014 °C (−0.0252 °F)
1970–1979−0.001 °C (−0.00180 °F)
1980–19890.176 °C (0.317 °F)
1990–19990.313 °C (0.563 °F)
2000–20090.513 °C (0.923 °F)

Instrumental temperature record - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Interesting. 1998 was a very strong El Nino, and the temperature set all kinds of records, but in 2005, those records were matched by a moderate El Nino, in 2010, again matched by a moderate El Nino, and in 2014, matched with the ENSO in neutral phase. And that was 7 years between 1998 and 2005. 5 years between 2005 and 2010. And 4 years between 2010 and 2014.

Now, as pointed out, the differance between 1998, 2005, 2010, and 2014 is very small, well within the margin of error. However, there is no error in the fact that 2014 should not have been a hot year. And no problem predicting that, sans a major volcanic eruption, we wil see an El Nino in the next few years, and see some real warming.
 
YearsTemp. anomaly
(°C anomaly (°F anomaly) from 1951–1980 mean)
1880–1889−0.274 °C (−0.493 °F)
1890–1899−0.254 °C (−0.457 °F)
1900–1909−0.259 °C (−0.466 °F)
1910–1919−0.276 °C (−0.497 °F)
1920–1929−0.175 °C (−0.315 °F)
1930–1939−0.043 °C (−0.0774 °F)
1940–19490.-035 °C (0.0630 °F)
1950–1959−0.02 °C (−0.0360 °F)
1960–1969−0.014 °C (−0.0252 °F)
1970–1979−0.001 °C (−0.00180 °F)
1980–19890.176 °C (0.317 °F)
1990–19990.313 °C (0.563 °F)
2000–20090.513 °C (0.923 °F)

Instrumental temperature record - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Interesting. 1998 was a very strong El Nino, and the temperature set all kinds of records, but in 2005, those records were matched by a moderate El Nino, in 2010, again matched by a moderate El Nino, and in 2014, matched with the ENSO in neutral phase. And that was 7 years between 1998 and 2005. 5 years between 2005 and 2010. And 4 years between 2010 and 2014.

Now, as pointed out, the differance between 1998, 2005, 2010, and 2014 is very small, well within the margin of error. However, there is no error in the fact that 2014 should not have been a hot year. And no problem predicting that, sans a major volcanic eruption, we wil see an El Nino in the next few years, and see some real warming.

and it wont be driven by man made anything... The anomaly rise is driven by unnecessary adjustments.
 
Since neither of you are scientists, what you doubt or think matters little. The scientists worldwide are measuring around 400 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere. That is an increase of 40+%, and most of it from the burning of fossil fuels.
 
Yea....the other 62% says it was the second or third hottest year

Statistics sucks that way
 
Since neither of you are scientists, what you doubt or think matters little. The scientists worldwide are measuring around 400 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere. That is an increase of 40+%, and most of it from the burning of fossil fuels.

Can't wait until Ted Cruz zeroes all Federal Funding for the Cult
 
Yea....the other 62% says it was the second or third hottest year

Statistics sucks that way



Progressives and statistics..........:2up::tongue-44::tongue-44:

One will note.......if the number is 62% regarding one of their causes, might as well be 100%. But when the same % concurs that a progressive cause like Obamacare sucks, well.........the sentiment is "FCUK YOU....the poll is rigged!!":tomato:


But more to the point, no progressive has the ability to think on the margin........thus, to those who can, 62% means, "We still don't know shit about shit about how the climate operates". This is SCIENCE last I checked.........the consensus should be 100% on this shit!!! Doesn't matter to the AGW embracing k00ks........any number is ok. The established narrative of the AGW progressives must be adhered do.:up::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:
 
And the statistical margin of error. Oh well, close enough, right?

I mean when has climate science gotten it right? We've been doing "close enough" for over 20 years now.....
 
Yea....the other 62% says it was the second or third hottest year

Statistics sucks that way



Progressives and statistics..........:2up::tongue-44::tongue-44:

One will note.......if the number is 62% regarding one of their causes, might as well be 100%. But when the same % concurs that a progressive cause like Obamacare sucks, well.........the sentiment is "FCUK YOU....the poll is rigged!!":tomato:


But more to the point, no progressive has the ability to think on the margin........thus, to those who can, 62% means, "We still don't know shit about shit about how the climate operates". This is SCIENCE last I checked.........the consensus should be 100% on this shit!!! Doesn't matter to the AGW embracing k00ks........any number is ok. The established narrative of the AGW progressives must be adhered do.:up::eusa_dance::eusa_dance:
The concept of standard deviations in reporting statistics is beyond you
 
I guess we have at least two threads on this now where conservative deniers jump all over themselves to demonstrate their ignorance of reporting statistical data
 
They're the same kooks who yell "It's really tied!" when a political poll reports one candidate ahead, but within the margin of error. And they're literally not bright enough to understand why that's so wrong.
 
Since neither of you are scientists, what you doubt or think matters little. The scientists worldwide are measuring around 400 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere. That is an increase of 40+%, and most of it from the burning of fossil fuels.

And coal? Where does coal fit into your delusional Chicken Little vision of gas pump gloom? 40% of carbon particulates in California's air drift over from China, from their filthy unscrubbed factories. They're building nuclear power plants now, many nuclear power plants, which is what our own country should be doing as well. And your delusion regarding CO2/petroleum is idiotic. How many states still require annual CO2 tests?

Remember the day when you had to get that little CO2 sticker for your windshield every year? A "smog test" people called it. You'd go to a testing station and the mechanic would insert a probe into the tailpipe, then the CO2 calibration machine would read your vehicle's exhaust output. We don't do that anymore because 21st century vehicles, with their Lamda sensors, electronic fuel injection, highly efficient catalytic converters, tuned exhaust systems, and computer modules running the whole show, burn so clean that CO2 testing is a waste of time and money, so we don't do it anymore. Add much cleaner-burning gasoline from our petroleum chemists; that fills out the equation.

You know the time comes when people with a backbone have to start wrenching themselves from mob-think. "Global warming" is just the latest Marxist iteration of Lysenkoism. Look it up. This whole sham is the left's war against science, empiricism, and truth, but mainly it's a war against petroleum, the most vital component of mankind's modern existence. Look around you. How different would your life be without petroleum?

For anyone interested in a dose petroleum geopolitical reality, check out Marin Katusa's New York Times bestseller, The Colder War. I just finished reading it. You can get it on Kindle. It's fascinating. Katusa is a former University of British Columbia math professor who developed mathematical models that he applied to international petroleum investment. He left academia when those models started making him rich and noticed. Read some of the Amazon reviews. That'll give you an idea of its drift.

Amazon.com The Colder War How the Global Energy Trade Slipped from America s Grasp eBook Marin Katusa Kindle Store
 
Sweetie Pie, you are getting senile. That is not a CO2 sticker, but a CO sticker. Carbon monoxide and nitrious oxides are the primary creaters of smog. And CO is a very toxic gas, with many people every year dying in the US from exhaust leaks and mal functioning heaters.

Oregon DMV DEQ Emissions Testing

The DEQ Vehicle Inspection Program (VIP) was implemented as part of the air quality maintenance program for the Portland and Medford metropolitan areas.

Vehicles are the number one source of air pollution in Oregon. Emissions lead to high smog and carbon monoxide levels, which can have a variety of effects on Oregonians. The DEQ/VIP is a successful, cost-effective way to reduce air pollution and maintain the quality of Oregon's air.
 

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