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We used water boarding on 3 people. Supposedly we received some valuable information from them that probably saved American lives. At the time it was sanctioned by the Government, now it isn't. I don't know about this former agent and why he would lie. Obviously we cannot believe anything he says now.
I believe that we were justified in the use of enhanced measures, and I believe they were only used when it was thought that lives could be saved.
It may save lives. If they can find out which wedding ceremony or school the drones have targeted next.We used water boarding on 3 people. Supposedly we received some valuable information from them that probably saved American lives. At the time it was sanctioned by the Government, now it isn't. I don't know about this former agent and why he would lie. Obviously we cannot believe anything he says now.
I believe that we were justified in the use of enhanced measures, and I believe they were only used when it was thought that lives could be saved.
When US soldiers are tortured, don't the torturers think they are saving lives? American soldiers have information on tactics, capabilities, strengths and vulnerabilities.....by your logic, our soldiers can be tortured because the information will save lives
The non torture rules are there to help protect our troops if they are captured.
If you support torturing prisoners then you do not support our troops.
We used water boarding on 3 people. Supposedly we received some valuable information from them that probably saved American lives. At the time it was sanctioned by the Government, now it isn't. I don't know about this former agent and why he would lie. Obviously we cannot believe anything he says now.
I believe that we were justified in the use of enhanced measures, and I believe they were only used when it was thought that lives could be saved.
When US soldiers are tortured, don't the torturers think they are saving lives? American soldiers have information on tactics, capabilities, strengths and vulnerabilities.....by your logic, our soldiers can be tortured because the information will save lives
The non torture rules are there to help protect our troops if they are captured.
If you support torturing prisoners then you do not support our troops.
Bullshit. How many heads have we cut off?
I guess I'll simply never understand why so many want the USA to be the bad guy.
I understand that we are not Lilly white innocent, but we are far far above and beyond our extremist Muslim enemies today.
Here's the other more logical response to your non sensical cut and paste job....
Prove waterboarding is torture. Not a single person has been charged with torture during the war on terrorism.
The non torture rules are there to help protect our troops if they are captured.
If you support torturing prisoners then you do not support our troops.
Bullshit. How many heads have we cut off?
who needs to cut off heads when cluster bombing civilian populations works just as well.
I bet you are a fan of My Lai massacres too, you silly geriatric fuck.
Here's the other more logical response to your non sensical cut and paste job....
Prove waterboarding is torture. Not a single person has been charged with torture during the war on terrorism.
I bet it would only take 4 fucking seconds for YOU to admit it's torture, bud.
Here's the other more logical response to your non sensical cut and paste job....
Prove waterboarding is torture. Not a single person has been charged with torture during the war on terrorism.
I bet it would only take 4 fucking seconds for YOU to admit it's torture, bud.
Well...when I was waterboarded in SERE it really was quite uncomfortable...but I wouldn't consider it torture and it was legal up until Obama specifically forbade it through executive order.
CIA Man Retracts Claim on Waterboarding | Foreign Policy
Well, it's official now: John Kiriakou, the former CIA operative who affirmed claims that waterboarding quickly unloosed the tongues of hard-core terrorists, says he didn't know what he was talking about.
Kiriakou, a 15-year veteran of the agency's intelligence analysis and operations directorates, electrified the hand-wringing national debate over torture in December 2007 when he told ABC's Brian Ross and Richard Esposito in a much ballyhooed, exclusive interview that senior al Qaeda commando Abu Zubaydah cracked after only one application of the face cloth and water.
"From that day on, he answered every question," Kiriakou said. "The threat information he provided disrupted a number of attacks, maybe dozens of attacks."
No matter that Kiriakou wearily said he shared the anguish of millions of Americans, not to mention the rest of the world, over the CIA's application of the medieval confession technique.
The point was that it worked. And the pro-torture camp was quick to pick up on Kiriakou's claim.
"It works, is the bottom line," conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh exclaimed on his radio show the day after Kiriakou's ABC interview. "Thirty to 35 seconds, and it works."
A cascade of similar acclamations followed, muffling -- to this day -- the later revelation that Zubaydah had in fact been waterboarded at least 83 times. Had Kiriakou left out something the first time?
Now comes John Kiriakou, again, with a wholly different story. On the next-to-last page of a new memoir, The Reluctant Spy: My Secret Life in the CIA's War on Terror (written with Michael Ruby), Kiriakou now rather off handedly admits that he basically made it all up.
"What I told Brian Ross in late 2007 was wrong on a couple counts," he writes. "I suggested that Abu Zubaydah had lasted only thirty or thirty-five seconds during his waterboarding before he begged his interrogators to stop; after that, I said he opened up and gave the agency actionable intelligence.
"Now we know," Kiriakou goes on, "that Zubaydah was waterboarded eighty-three times in a single month, raising questions about how much useful information he actually supplied."
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Time sure has a way of things. Thoughts USMB?
I bet it would only take 4 fucking seconds for YOU to admit it's torture, bud.
Well...when I was waterboarded in SERE it really was quite uncomfortable...but I wouldn't consider it torture and it was legal up until Obama specifically forbade it through executive order.
Yeah I tried it as well, Not bad with a bit of Ketchup.
Bullshit. How many heads have we cut off?
who needs to cut off heads when cluster bombing civilian populations works just as well.
I bet you are a fan of My Lai massacres too, you silly geriatric fuck.
Only thing is Al Qaeda doesn't have cluster bombs yet...but I'm sure they got some people going to flight school here as we speak so keep your hopes up!
The non torture rules are there to help protect our troops if they are captured.
If you support torturing prisoners then you do not support our troops.
Bullshit. How many heads have we cut off?
Here's the other more logical response to your non sensical cut and paste job....
Prove waterboarding is torture. Not a single person has been charged with torture during the war on terrorism.
I bet it would only take 4 fucking seconds for YOU to admit it's torture, bud.
When I was waterboarded in SERE it really was quite uncomfortable...but I wouldn't consider it torture and it was legal up until Obama specifically forbade it through executive order.
