who would support a return to a constitutionly sound government?

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    meaning, at least,:

    - phasing out SS and medicare asap
    - ending the iraq war and closing our bases around the world except in afgh until we leave there
    - leaving the UN
    - ending the federal reserve
    - stopping all foreign aid
    - stopping all trade embargos such as cuba
    - ending the income tax
     
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    That would all certainly be a good start, but I'd say leave Afghanistan immediately as well.
     
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    Most libertarians, a few conservative Repubs, and damn near no voters.
     
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    i think afgh, or at least the actions in pakistan now, would certainly fall under defense
     
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    also you can add to the list if you want
     
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    the last part is whats sad.
     
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    - Repeal the Patriot Act
    - Abolish the Dept. of Homeland Security
    - Abolish the IRS
    - Abolish the Dept. of Education
    - Repeal the recent health care debacle
    - Abolish the DEA

    Just some more off the top of my head.
     
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    None of these things are unconstitutional

    - phasing out SS and medicare asap Nope, too many Americans depend on it
    - ending the iraq war and closing our bases around the world except in afgh until we leave there Agree
    - leaving the UN It is still a viable forum for international relations
    - ending the federal reserve It has worked since 1913
    - stopping all foreign aid Part of "carrot and stick" diplomacy
    - stopping all trade embargos such as cuba Agree
    - ending the income tax We have nothing to replace it with. Until we come up with something more equitable, it is still the best available means to collect revenue
     
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    are you trolling or what?

    just because people want it doesn't make it constitutional. It is theft from the government.

    where in the const can we join other groups that then have power over our nation?

    what was the value of the dollar then vs now? what allowed for the mass printing of money that led to the debacle of the last year? what has placed the value of our dollar into a prviate, international organization?

    doesn't make it constitutional

    so you put an unconstitutional law into practice because nothing better is known? how does that make any sense?
     
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    Every one of the things you claim are unconstitutional are well within the framework of our Constitution ans have stood the test of time.

    The way to establish unconstitutionality is to file a lawsuit and have our courts (who were given the Constitutional role of deciding these things) decide

    Federal Reserve, Income tax. Social Security and medicare have all withstood numerous constitutional challenges

    Just because you post something on a message board is not grounds under our Constitution
     

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