Who Will Win the New Cold War?

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It looks like a new Cold War between Russia and the West is inevitable, even if the conflict in Ukraine remains "frozen" in its current form until at least this summer. It became clear one year ago with the annexation of Crimea and the start of the war in eastern Ukraine that Russia's relations with Europe — and especially with the United States — would not remain the same as before.

Now is the time to ask how this new confrontation will look, both ideologically and institutionally.

The forms of Russia's interaction with the West that developed after the first Cold War — such as the Partnership for Peace with NATO and the working partnership with the European Union — have now sunk into oblivion.

And even if, for example, Russia returns to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe by the end of the year, it will face there only endless criticisms and lectures on how to behave.

And because those organizations are based on certain principles, membership in them only made sense for Russia as long as it was engaged in a dialogue on "common European values."

But now that Moscow has made it more than clear that it does not share those values, why bother preserving yet another venue for wrangling with the West? Membership on the UN Security Council offers ample opportunity for that.
Who Will Win the New Cold War Opinion The Moscow Times

This is a real nice op-ed piece: Now what? Right now, I am watching both sides talk a lot about the other sides propaganda.
 
It looks like a new Cold War between Russia and the West is inevitable, even if the conflict in Ukraine remains "frozen" in its current form until at least this summer. It became clear one year ago with the annexation of Crimea and the start of the war in eastern Ukraine that Russia's relations with Europe — and especially with the United States — would not remain the same as before.

Now is the time to ask how this new confrontation will look, both ideologically and institutionally.

The forms of Russia's interaction with the West that developed after the first Cold War — such as the Partnership for Peace with NATO and the working partnership with the European Union — have now sunk into oblivion.

And even if, for example, Russia returns to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe by the end of the year, it will face there only endless criticisms and lectures on how to behave.

And because those organizations are based on certain principles, membership in them only made sense for Russia as long as it was engaged in a dialogue on "common European values."

But now that Moscow has made it more than clear that it does not share those values, why bother preserving yet another venue for wrangling with the West? Membership on the UN Security Council offers ample opportunity for that.
Who Will Win the New Cold War Opinion The Moscow Times

This is a real nice op-ed piece: Now what? Right now, I am watching both sides talk a lot about the other sides propaganda.


I'd bet on Russia, if I were a betting man.

Obama is Putin's bitch, Hillary will be too.
 
It looks like a new Cold War between Russia and the West is inevitable, even if the conflict in Ukraine remains "frozen" in its current form until at least this summer. It became clear one year ago with the annexation of Crimea and the start of the war in eastern Ukraine that Russia's relations with Europe — and especially with the United States — would not remain the same as before.

Now is the time to ask how this new confrontation will look, both ideologically and institutionally.

The forms of Russia's interaction with the West that developed after the first Cold War — such as the Partnership for Peace with NATO and the working partnership with the European Union — have now sunk into oblivion.

And even if, for example, Russia returns to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe by the end of the year, it will face there only endless criticisms and lectures on how to behave.

And because those organizations are based on certain principles, membership in them only made sense for Russia as long as it was engaged in a dialogue on "common European values."

But now that Moscow has made it more than clear that it does not share those values, why bother preserving yet another venue for wrangling with the West? Membership on the UN Security Council offers ample opportunity for that.
Who Will Win the New Cold War Opinion The Moscow Times

This is a real nice op-ed piece: Now what? Right now, I am watching both sides talk a lot about the other sides propaganda.


I'd bet on Russia, if I were a betting man.

Obama is Putin's bitch, Hillary will be too.

Obama can't even match a 2-bit dictator like Castro

-Geaux
 
"It looks like a new Cold War between Russia and the West is inevitable..."

Actually the Cold War never ended – some names have changed but the underlying conflicts remain the same.

The Cold War had/has nothing to do with politics or the 'spread of communism,' it has to do with the ancient animosity between East and West, a fundamental distrust, having little to do with politics, economic dogma, or human rights.
 
"It looks like a new Cold War between Russia and the West is inevitable..."

Actually the Cold War never ended – some names have changed but the underlying conflicts remain the same.

The Cold War had/has nothing to do with politics or the 'spread of communism,' it has to do with the ancient animosity between East and West, a fundamental distrust, having little to do with politics, economic dogma, or human rights.

It's over resources. The rest is the cover.
 
The arms race led to the space race, and technology advanced greatly because the funding was there due to the necessity of facing down Russia. In fact as far as I remember it Russia's break up was largely due America producing a video called star wars, of mythical space weapons we were supposed to be developing. That was when Russia started backing off. But now we have a megalomaniac like Putin screwing things up again.
 
The most dangerous time is between now and November, 2016.

Putin knows America is weak in both weapons and spirit (of "leadership") but the opportunity won't necessarily last.

If a real president is elected there'll be a period of serious danger between election day and inauguration day with a strong potential for a pre-emptive strike. If Hillary or another fellow-traveler is elected the danger diminishes because Putin will know he only has to be patient and America will come to him on bended knee.

So if you want to avoid a war elect a leftmost Democrat. But you'll also be electing to become a vassal.
 
There is no new cold war.

The idea is ridiculous.

Russia is weak.

American, under this administration, has gotten weaker, but we are still miles ahead of Russia.

Over time, the gap between and America and Russia will just grow.
 
The most dangerous time is between now and November, 2016.

Putin knows America is weak in both weapons and spirit (of "leadership") but the opportunity won't necessarily last.

If a real president is elected there'll be a period of serious danger between election day and inauguration day with a strong potential for a pre-emptive strike. If Hillary or another fellow-traveler is elected the danger diminishes because Putin will know he only has to be patient and America will come to him on bended knee.

So if you want to avoid a war elect a leftmost Democrat. But you'll also be electing to become a vassal.

The US does not have the desire or will to enter into a war with Russia or China for that matter. They will talk a bunch of crap but at the end of the day they are very satisfied with proxy wars.
 

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