Who will represent me? I did not vote for the PA

[P F Tinmore]

For almost two decades, the PA has been assuming that it represents the Palestinian people based on the Oslo accords.

The PA, however, falls short on the questions of genuine democratic representation.

The last democratic elections for the PA took place more than five years ago. The refusal by the US and Europe to respect the results of that election has led to the severe fragmentation of both Gaza and the West Bank, leaving Palestinians with two governments, neither of which is representative of the total interests and will of the Palestinian people. It is no wonder that young Palestinians, unable to practice their fundamental democratic right to vote, and all too aware of the follies of the PA, are shouting very fiercely against the PA or even calling for its dissolution.

This of course delegitimizes any further step the PA takes on behalf of the Palestinian people, for it is not the real representative of the Palestinian people living in Gaza and the West Bank, let alone the already disenfranchised population of Palestinians outside those territories.

The prospective consequences of the statehood bid are not promising but instead rather risky. Palestinians, of course, are not to blame for distrusting their fragmented leadership after a series of shocking revelations about how the Palestinian cause is being dealt with in negotiation rooms and how much this leadership is ready to offer or concede.

The fact that the new state is offering no reform of the Palestinian leadership tells how unpromising such a move is. One cannot but imagine the forthcoming state as offering nothing more to the Palestinians than further fragmentation. A state that offers no relief from the current situation on the ground, that is led by the same leadership, that fails to uphold the rights of the Palestinians, sounds like the very definition of insanity.

The PA doesn't represent me; why should I trust its statehood bid? | The Electronic Intifada

 

[Ropey]

Who cares?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Abbas's government is illegitimate. You would think that the UN would know this. Why would they entertain any proposal from him?

What would happen if the UN goes for his statehood bid and the people say no? This isn't what we want and he had no authority to make that request.

 

[techieny]

who cares

 

[jillian]

move. pals are jordanian anyway.

 

[P F Tinmore]

They have never lived in Jordan.

It must be an Israel thing.

 

[jillian]

They have never lived in Jordan.

It must be an Israel thing.

transjordan... look it up.

but jordan doesn't want you either.

 

[P F Tinmore]

They have never lived in Jordan.

It must be an Israel thing.

transjordan... look it up.

but jordan doesn't want you either.

Nope, never lived there.

 

[Ropey]

They have never lived in Jordan.

It must be an Israel thing.

transjordan... look it up.

but jordan doesn't want you either.

Nope, never lived there.

^Then you can represent him PF.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

For almost two decades, the PA has been assuming that it represents the Palestinian people based on the Oslo accords.

The PA, however, falls short on the questions of genuine democratic representation.

The last democratic elections for the PA took place more than five years ago. The refusal by the US and Europe to respect the results of that election has led to the severe fragmentation of both Gaza and the West Bank, leaving Palestinians with two governments, neither of which is representative of the total interests and will of the Palestinian people. It is no wonder that young Palestinians, unable to practice their fundamental democratic right to vote, and all too aware of the follies of the PA, are shouting very fiercely against the PA or even calling for its dissolution.

This of course delegitimizes any further step the PA takes on behalf of the Palestinian people, for it is not the real representative of the Palestinian people living in Gaza and the West Bank, let alone the already disenfranchised population of Palestinians outside those territories.

The prospective consequences of the statehood bid are not promising but instead rather risky. Palestinians, of course, are not to blame for distrusting their fragmented leadership after a series of shocking revelations about how the Palestinian cause is being dealt with in negotiation rooms and how much this leadership is ready to offer or concede.

The fact that the new state is offering no reform of the Palestinian leadership tells how unpromising such a move is. One cannot but imagine the forthcoming state as offering nothing more to the Palestinians than further fragmentation. A state that offers no relief from the current situation on the ground, that is led by the same leadership, that fails to uphold the rights of the Palestinians, sounds like the very definition of insanity.

The PA doesn't represent me; why should I trust its statehood bid? | The Electronic Intifada

 

[docmauser1]

They have never lived in Jordan. It must be an Israel thing.

Countering these two idiotic propagandist contentions we're happy to present memorable words of the late jordanian king Hussein as of March 15, 1972,
"After a short period of temporary administration in the West Bank, a group of leaders, notables and elders representing Palestinian Arabs who had emigrated from the occupied territories considered joining the East Bank, a patriotic and nationalist demand and a guarantee against Israeli dangers. They held two great historic meetings. The first was in Jericho on 1 December 1948 and the second in Nablus on 28 December 1948. ... Those present adopted resolutions calling on the late King Abdullah Bin al-Husein to take immediate steps to unify and merge the two Banks in a single State under his leadership."
What we're witnessing here is the ridiculously obvious pathetic palistanian inability to govern themselves, which is easily explainable by the fact that arabs (happy palistanians nowadays) have been showing a remarkable lack of interest in having a state then and now. They've been obsessed by the single idea of killing and driving jews out and looting of the jewish property, then and now. This psychotic obsession is the single bond and purpose that unites them, not the dreams of getting a life and a job, having and running a state. Besides, palistanians are a ragtag bunch of recent major immigrants in their roots, as proven by W.Shoebat, hence they don't have and share a national identity and purpose.

 

[P F Tinmore]

They have never lived in Jordan. It must be an Israel thing.

Countering these two idiotic propagandist contentions we're happy to present memorable words of the late jordanian king Hussein as of March 15, 1972,
"After a short period of temporary administration in the West Bank, a group of leaders, notables and elders representing Palestinian Arabs who had emigrated from the occupied territories considered joining the East Bank, a patriotic and nationalist demand and a guarantee against Israeli dangers. They held two great historic meetings. The first was in Jericho on 1 December 1948 and the second in Nablus on 28 December 1948. ... Those present adopted resolutions calling on the late King Abdullah Bin al-Husein to take immediate steps to unify and merge the two Banks in a single State under his leadership."
What we're witnessing here is the ridiculously obvious pathetic palistanian inability to govern themselves, which is easily explainable by the fact that arabs (happy palistanians nowadays) have been showing a remarkable lack of interest in having a state then and now. They've been obsessed by the single idea of killing and driving jews out and looting of the jewish property, then and now. This psychotic obsession is the single bond and purpose that unites them, not the dreams of getting a life and a job, having and running a state. Besides, palistanians are a ragtag bunch of recent major immigrants in their roots, as proven by W.Shoebat, hence they don't have and share a national identity and purpose.

Jordan was promised $3M a year for five years and the West Bank if it did not attack Israel in the 1948 war.

It didn't.

 

[Ropey]

Smart Jordan said no to the West Bank and Egypt said no to Gaza.

Stupid Hamas.

Point taken PF.

 

[docmauser1]

They have never lived in Jordan. It must be an Israel thing.

Countering these two idiotic propagandist contentions we're happy to present memorable words of the late jordanian king Hussein as of March 15, 1972,
"After a short period of temporary administration in the West Bank, a group of leaders, notables and elders representing Palestinian Arabs who had emigrated from the occupied territories considered joining the East Bank, a patriotic and nationalist demand and a guarantee against Israeli dangers. They held two great historic meetings. The first was in Jericho on 1 December 1948 and the second in Nablus on 28 December 1948. ... Those present adopted resolutions calling on the late King Abdullah Bin al-Husein to take immediate steps to unify and merge the two Banks in a single State under his leadership."
What we're witnessing here is the ridiculously obvious pathetic palistanian inability to govern themselves, which is easily explainable by the fact that arabs (happy palistanians nowadays) have been showing a remarkable lack of interest in having a state then and now. They've been obsessed by the single idea of killing and driving jews out and looting of the jewish property, then and now. This psychotic obsession is the single bond and purpose that unites them, not the dreams of getting a life and a job, having and running a state. Besides, palistanians are a ragtag bunch of recent major immigrants in their roots, as proven by W.Shoebat, hence they don't have and share a national identity and purpose.

Jordan was promised $3M a year for five years and the West Bank if it did not attack Israel in the 1948 war. It didn't.

And who made that up, bth.?

 

[destroythedome]

For almost two decades, the PA has been assuming that it represents the Palestinian people based on the Oslo accords.

The PA, however, falls short on the questions of genuine democratic representation.

The last democratic elections for the PA took place more than five years ago. The refusal by the US and Europe to respect the results of that election has led to the severe fragmentation of both Gaza and the West Bank, leaving Palestinians with two governments, neither of which is representative of the total interests and will of the Palestinian people. It is no wonder that young Palestinians, unable to practice their fundamental democratic right to vote, and all too aware of the follies of the PA, are shouting very fiercely against the PA or even calling for its dissolution.

This of course delegitimizes any further step the PA takes on behalf of the Palestinian people, for it is not the real representative of the Palestinian people living in Gaza and the West Bank, let alone the already disenfranchised population of Palestinians outside those territories.

The prospective consequences of the statehood bid are not promising but instead rather risky. Palestinians, of course, are not to blame for distrusting their fragmented leadership after a series of shocking revelations about how the Palestinian cause is being dealt with in negotiation rooms and how much this leadership is ready to offer or concede.

The fact that the new state is offering no reform of the Palestinian leadership tells how unpromising such a move is. One cannot but imagine the forthcoming state as offering nothing more to the Palestinians than further fragmentation. A state that offers no relief from the current situation on the ground, that is led by the same leadership, that fails to uphold the rights of the Palestinians, sounds like the very definition of insanity.

The PA doesn't represent me; why should I trust its statehood bid? | The Electronic Intifada

welcome to the democratic system. Not everyone gets thier way.

 

[Ropey]

For PF Tinmore who calls to end Israel.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ALX3qTRggo]Fuck Palestine - YouTube[/ame]

^^^ She can represent you ^^^​

 

[P F Tinmore]

No other country has propaganda outlets all over the world.

Why does Israel need them?

 

[Ropey]

And the Arabs don't have theirs all over the world?

Goose/Gander...

 

[Ropey]

No other country has propaganda outlets all over the world.

Why does Israel need them?

57 Muslim countries voting as a bloc in the Un and they won't even vote with the rest of the assembly.

They need their own bloc to vote from? Away from the infidel?

 

[P F Tinmore]

And the Arabs don't have theirs all over the world?

Goose/Gander...

Is there an Arab version of MEMRI, PMW, CAMERA, or AIPAC?