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In a New York minute.
The man has no values at all. Did you not see what I just posted?
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In a New York minute.
In a New York minute.
The man has no values at all. Did you not see what I just posted?
Who will be the republican nominee in 2012?
I don't mean to derail your discussion, but my answer AT THIS TIME is: "It doesn't matter."
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good answer. too bad you didn't STFU before you wrecked it.
On the contrere, I learned long ago to vote for the party, not the candidate. It is impossible to sort out each and every candidates' positions on every subject, but the republican candidates as a whole are in line with my political thoughts.Not worried. I'm voting republican by the way.
Not me....I learned a long time ago not to vote for a party.
jees...is that a serious question? Who knows??? Are you fishing for some Palin discussion?
It's a little early to be painting targets on people isn't it??? Or are you worried?
Not worried. I'm voting republican by the way.
Who will be the republican nominee in 2012?
I don't mean to derail your discussion, but my answer AT THIS TIME is: "It doesn't matter."
-edit-
good answer. too bad you didn't STFU before you wrecked it.
jees...is that a serious question? Who knows??? Are you fishing for some Palin discussion?
It's a little early to be painting targets on people isn't it??? Or are you worried?
Not worried. I'm voting republican by the way.
So your a straight-ticket voter? You already know what party regardless of the candidate?
I don't mean to derail your discussion, but my answer AT THIS TIME is: "It doesn't matter."
UNLESS we STOP President Obama in his tracks immediately, and then seize control back in 2010 in the House of Representatives and perhaps put in a few more conservatives to dislodge the liberal Democrat super-majority presently infesting the Senate, our Republic may not survie as a Constitutional Republic long enough for 2012 Presidential politics to matter.
There you go derailing it. What is with the whole "Omgz! Obama = Socialist! We're all gonna be commie slaves!!!"
I told you in the other thread, if you truly think all the Democrats in congress are Liberal then you are smoking some serious stuff. Besides, there are many Democrats who hold Republican views so where the hell do you get this "super-majority" from?
Back on-topic: Jindal is the only person I can see even having a legitimate shot at the moment out of those above.
Not worried. I'm voting republican by the way.
So your a straight-ticket voter? You already know what party regardless of the candidate?
can't imagine a republican candidate bad enough that I would vote for Obama.
So your a straight-ticket voter? You already know what party regardless of the candidate?
can't imagine a republican candidate bad enough that I would vote for Obama.
What about a 3rd party candidate? What about the unlikely event Obama doesn't seek reelection? Btw my choice is Mitt Romney.
I already corrected your ignorance. Ty to pay attention. It is NOT the case that ALL Democratics are liberal. But it IS the case that the Democrat Parod has been hijacked by the uber-left in the form of modern American liberoidalism.
Dimwitocrats tend to vote Party-line. You guys tend to be ruthless in destroying those who don't toe the Party line.
By a vote of 90-6, the Senate approved an amendment to a war funding bill Wednesday that not only blocks supplemental funds from being used to close Guantanamo and move detainees to U.S. soil, but also orders that no funds already in U.S. coffers be redirected toward that purpose.
The seating of Minnesota Sen. Al Franken will give Democrats the filibuster-proof 60-40 majority in the Senate, but only on paper. Absences by two ailing senators mean the party can count only 58 votes, and then only if Majority Leader Harry Reid can herd two independents and the independent streaks of 55 others behind Obama's biggest initiatives: expanded health care coverage and cleaner but more expensive energy.
House passage of the climate change bill on a 219-212 vote last month provided an instructional preview of the Senate debate. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., called the vote transformational, for the broad effects it would have on every household, business, industry and farm in the decades ahead. Republicans pointed mainly to higher energy bills for virtually everyone — a lot higher for some.
Even with a 78-vote majority in the rule-bound House, Democratic leaders needed help from a few Republicans to pass the bill after 44 Democrats said no.
Anne Mathias, the director of policy research at the Stanford Group in Washington, D.C., said one-party rule often only leads to division within the majority party.
"The Senate fights with the House as much as Republicans fight with Democrats," Mathias said. "The Democrats in the Senate are not a unified block and neither are the Democrats in the House."
Blue Dog Democrats, said Mathias, who often support more conservative legislation, will still be a factor in the newly elected Congress.
"You're not going to see the floodgates open and see every piece of populist tax-raising, business-unfriendly legislation just roll through."
Doug Kriner, a congressional expert and professor of political science at Boston University, said even with increased numbers in both houses, Democrats still won't always get their way.
"They will not get everything they want," he said, adding that in addition to the Blue Dog Democrats, some moderate Democratic senators from states such as Montana and North Dakota will still stand up to the majority.
"For Democrats to always prevail in Congress would demand a lot of party loyalty, which isn't always the rule of the Senate," said Kriner.
Who will be the republican nominee in 2012?
I don't mean to derail your discussion, but my answer AT THIS TIME is: "It doesn't matter."
UNLESS we STOP President Obama in his tracks immediately, and then seize control back in 2010 in the House of Representatives and perhaps put in a few more conservatives to dislodge the liberal Democrat super-majority presently infesting the Senate, our Republic may not survie as a Constitutional Republic long enough for 2012 Presidential politics to matter.
Well, fuck, man, I would hate to see if you WERE trying to derail it.
our Republic may not survie as a Constitutional Republic long enough for 2012 Presidential politics to matter.
what do you mean by this?
Gee I thought that was exactly what he was saying. "Not every Democrat is a Liberal"
Interesting that you defend his point of view and then call him an idiot.
Exactly what I said. I think President Obama's behavior is SERIOUSLY undermining our foundation as a Constitutionally-based Republic. Of course, it requires help. And the idiot libs in Congress (primarily Dems but also a too-large number of RINOs) are there to help.
I already corrected your ignorance. Ty to pay attention. It is NOT the case that ALL Democratics are liberal. But it IS the case that the Democrat Parod has been hijacked by the uber-left in the form of modern American liberoidalism.
Dimwitocrats tend to vote Party-line. You guys tend to be ruthless in destroying those who don't toe the Party line.
Really now?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/10/washington/10fisa.html
69-28 for this non-Liberal bill including one Barack Obama.
By a vote of 90-6, the Senate approved an amendment to a war funding bill Wednesday that not only blocks supplemental funds from being used to close Guantanamo and move detainees to U.S. soil, but also orders that no funds already in U.S. coffers be redirected toward that purpose.
90-6
60 votes not so super for Obama, Senate Democrats - Yahoo! News
ABC News: For Dems, Does Majority Always Rule?
Anne Mathias, the director of policy research at the Stanford Group in Washington, D.C., said one-party rule often only leads to division within the majority party.
"The Senate fights with the House as much as Republicans fight with Democrats," Mathias said. "The Democrats in the Senate are not a unified block and neither are the Democrats in the House."
Blue Dog Democrats, said Mathias, who often support more conservative legislation, will still be a factor in the newly elected Congress.
"You're not going to see the floodgates open and see every piece of populist tax-raising, business-unfriendly legislation just roll through."
Doug Kriner, a congressional expert and professor of political science at Boston University, said even with increased numbers in both houses, Democrats still won't always get their way.
"They will not get everything they want," he said, adding that in addition to the Blue Dog Democrats, some moderate Democratic senators from states such as Montana and North Dakota will still stand up to the majority.
"For Democrats to always prevail in Congress would demand a lot of party loyalty, which isn't always the rule of the Senate," said Kriner.
In one word to describe you if you continue to believe such myths like "Liberals have hijacked the party" or "Democrats vote by party line", idiot.
You seem to have confused Liberals for religious right and Democrats for Republicans. Especially since Republicans always seem to try and destroy their own who even dare vote moderately.